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wineturtle
08-24-2009, 10:23 AM
PSlevins Jen Rhines post got me thinking aout my NYC HS days
I will start the list with Oympians I ran against in HS or AAU
read that as wooped myskinnybutt
John Carlos
Larry James
Bob Beamon
Byron Dyce
Jose l`Oficial
Marcel Philippe
from my era but I never competed against directly
Vince Matthews
Tom Farrell
I clerked or started
Bill Jankunis
Cheryl Toussant
Diane Dixon
Matt Centrowitz
Fred Sumara

I also worked a couple of summer programs with Ken Bantum.

-outside my time-
two swift Merediths Rainey and Gourdine
Abel Kiviat
Reginald James Pearmon III
Ato Boldon
of course Marty Glickman must get a mention

Most Olympic bling most likely goes to Jamaica HS`s Ato Boldon (1992, 1996, 2 Bronze; 2000, Silver and Bronze). Does 2 golds for Vince 1968 relay and 1972 400 open or Dianes 84 Gold and 88 Silver relays trump Atos 3 bronze and a silver?

Who did I miss?

We did a from my state thing on LetsRun a while ago -maybe I can find it.

PSlevin
08-24-2009, 11:42 AM
How about 4 time Olympic gold medalist Al Oerter from Sewanhaka HS??
Easily the most successful NYer on Olympic & World Championship (Cup) teams. John Gregorek: two time Olympian in the 3 k steeplechase from St. Anthony's HS. Dan Middleman from W.T. Clarke HS. Herricks HS's Nadine Faustin has represented Haiti in several Olympics and WCs. Tony Colon (Power Memorial HS) did the same for Puerto Rico I believe.
Cheri Goddard and Adam Nelson from upstate NY.
Any others?

dand
08-24-2009, 01:13 PM
John Trautmann 5K - 1992

thestogs
08-24-2009, 01:16 PM
don paige made the 1980 olympics but didnt compete because we boycotted those games

wineturtle
08-24-2009, 01:36 PM
list limited to NY born T&F Olympians only

Jim Beatty USA ATH 1960
Barbara Brown USA ATH 1960
Leroy Brown USA ATH 1924
Matt Centrowitz USA ATH 1976
Andrzej Chylinski USA ATH 1996
Harvey Cohn USA ATH 1904—1908
Lillian Copeland USA ATH 1928—1932
George Cornetta USA ATH 1920
Jessie Cross USA ATH 1928
Elliott Denman USA ATH 1956
Jim Duncan USA ATH 1912
Dolores Dwyer USA ATH 1952
Vic Dyrgall USA ATH 1952
John Eller, Jr. USA ATH 1912
Meredith Ellis USA ATH 1956
Dick Emberger USA ATH 1964
Marty Engel USA ATH 1952
Tom Farrell USA ATH 1964—1968
Sam Felton USA ATH 1948—1952
Al Fitch USA ATH 1936
Eddie Fitzgerald USA ATH 1912
Ann Marie Flynn USA ATH 1956
Harvey Frick USA ATH 1928
Leo Goehring USA ATH 1912
Harry Grumpelt USA ATH 1912
Chelsea Hammond JAM ATH 2008
Yvonne Harrison PUR ATH 2004
Alan Helffrich USA ATH 1924
Harry Hinkel USA ATH 1924—1932
Daniel Horton USA ATH 1900
Frank Hussey USA ATH 1924
Charlie Jenkins USA ATH 1956
Chip Jenkins USA ATH 1992
Erling Kaas NOR ATH 1948—1952
Frederick Kaiser USA ATH 1912
Edgar Kiralfy USA ATH 1908
Abel Kiviat USA ATH 1912
Tom Laris USA ATH 1968
Melvin Lister, III USA ATH 2000—2004
Fred Lorz USA ATH 1904
Thomas Maroney USA ATH 1920
Robert McAllister USA ATH 1928
Alain Metellus CAN ATH 1984
Alvah Meyer USA ATH 1912
Reggie Pearman USA ATH 1952
Marcel Philippe FRA ATH 1976
Paul Pilgrim USA ATH 1904—1908
Paul Rekers USA ATH 1932
John Reynolds USA ATH 1912
Greg Rhymer IVB ATH 1996
James Rosenberger USA ATH 1912
Mike Ryan USA ATH 1908—1912
Félix Sánchez DOM ATH 2000—2008
Sam Schwartz USA ATH 1912
Steve Seymour USA ATH 1948
John Sittig USA ATH 1928
George Spitz USA ATH 1932
Robert Stangland USA ATH 1904
Alfred Voellmeke USA ATH 1912



list produced from the 118,707 Olympians bioed on OlyMADMens` Olympedia (a member only private site,sorry)
379 Olympians of all sports winter & summer are listed as NY born including John Jacob Astor.

The American, J. J. Astor, came to England as a child and became a British citizen in 1889 when his father took out naturalization papers for himself and his family. His upbringing was typical of a wealthy young Englishman of the time and at Eton he opening the batting for the cricket team in 1904 and 1905. Later in 1905 he went up to New College, Oxford but his stay was brief and he left the following year to take a commission in the Life Guards. From 1911 to 1914, Astor served as ADC to Lord Hardinge, who had succeeded Astor’s father-in-law, Lord Minto, as Viceroy of India after which he rejoined his regiment for active service. Although he lost his right leg in action in September 1918, amazingly, this did not prevent him from winning the parliamentary squash rackets championship in 1926 and 1927. In 1922, Astor became Chief Proprietor of The Times and also entered Parliament as the Member for Dover, a seat he held until 1945. In 1924 he was President of the Royal Cinque Ports Golf Club and in 1937 became the first American-born President of the MCC. In 1956 he was created Baron Astor of Hever but six years later, in order to avoid the penal death duties in England, he took up residence in France where he subsequently died. In the 1908 Olympic Rackets tournament, John Astor and his partner Vane Pennell scored a comfortable win over Edmund Bury and Cecil Browning in the doubles. In the singles Astor drew a bye in the fist round, his second round opponent withdrew and, although he lost to Charles Leaf in the only singles match he played, Astor won a bronze medal as a losing semi-finalist.

Olympic results
Medals
Gold 1
Silver 0
Bronze 1
Total 2
Games Sport Event Team Pos Details
1908 (summer) Representing Great Britain
Racquets Singles =3 Bronze
Doubles Vane Pennell 1 Gold


Not so idle rich :)

WillyNilly
08-24-2009, 05:06 PM
Natasha Hastings 2008 4x4

TNorton
08-24-2009, 08:17 PM
Tracy Baskin ran the 800 meters in Seoul.

PSlevin
08-24-2009, 09:01 PM
Nice research Wineturtle.
As usual, you bring alot to these boards.
Where's Kalaby when you need him? Hey, Mike.....your birthday is OVER....back to work on Dyestat!!!!!!!

But, that list is hardly complete as it doesn't list those I've previously mentioned:
J. Gregorek
D. Middleman
T. Colon
N. Faustin
J. Rhines
or
A. Oerter!!!!
Any others?
I wanted to spark some interest in this because (like I said) I think that besides Oerter's 4 gold medals.....I think that Jen Rhines might be one of the MOST decorated athletes EVER from the Empire State [based on the amount of teams that she's made in representing NY & the US of A in OGs and WCs.]

I know several have mentioned Ato Bolden, but didn't he spend MOST of his HS days and college days (UCLA) out in California before going on to represent (and medal for)Trinidad & Tobago?

Check out Nadine Faustin from Herricks HS. She's represented Haiti in several OGs and WCs.

C'mon New Yorkers. We all know if we had someone from OUR high school go on to represent our country (or other nations) in the Olympic Games or World Championships......including indoors and XC?????
Speak up!
Any HS that has more than one?????

Add Chris Graff from Oceanside HS (and a St. John's Redmen!!!!) who represented the USA in the IAAF XC Championships in Ireland a few years back.
Also add Kevin McDermott & younger brother Ryan McDermott( Chaminade HS) who both represented the USA in the Pan Am Juniors. AND Charlie Millioen (St. Anthony's HS) who represented the USA in the Jr. World Championships in Jamaica a few years ago.
But, I digress......because I coached these guys......lets just stick to the Olympic Games and World Championships (indoors & outdoors and the IAAF XC Championships) for now.
Speak up!
Name your athlete and where he/she went to HS in NY.
MY high school (Floral Park Memorial HS) alas, doesn't have an Olympian (or a World Championer) [yet!]
-Pat-

rollingthunder
08-24-2009, 10:36 PM
Teresa Vaill of Pine Plains in section 9 Olympic team 2004 women's 20k racewalk, more than 10 national titles, just was on recent World Champs team, many trips to represent USA on many teams (World, Pan Am etc.)

SEAURCHIN
08-24-2009, 11:21 PM
How can anyone forget about this guy? I remember speaking to him sometime during the 1974 state meet in X-C, which was held at Sunken Meadow State Park that year. He was one tough customer indeed!



http://www.pfitzinger.com/profile.htm

wineturtle
08-25-2009, 12:58 AM
Where's Kalaby when you need him? Hey, Mike.....your birthday is OVER....back to work on Dyestat!!!!!!!

But, that list is hardly complete as it doesn't list those I've previously mentioned:


-Pat-
I am afraid the sort is limited to those who identified NY as their birthstate on Olympic documents. As noted the database is huge. Home of record does not have a sort I can find.

toughtothcore
08-25-2009, 01:01 AM
Lopez Lomong. Idc what you say

g2g4gold
08-25-2009, 01:48 AM
Derrick Adkins...

thestogs
08-25-2009, 01:49 AM
kyle champagne

i_love_xc
08-25-2009, 03:05 AM
Anthony Famiglietti - Patchogue-Medford HS: 2004/2008 Olympic Steeplechase

Pat Gildea - From my alma mater, Sachem HS: 2006 World XC Championships

Fun Fact: They ran together at The University of Tennessee

purplewave at NRHS
08-25-2009, 08:08 AM
Lou Jones class of 1950 (Manhattan College) Gold medalist 4 x 400m.

Ovril Marie Dwyer class of 1979 (Fla. St.) Trinidad-Tabago 400 hurdles

TrAcKoPuNeK
08-26-2009, 04:40 PM
2008 Pole Vault silver medalist Jenn Stuczynski

2 miler
08-28-2009, 08:58 AM
Mike Sands, Sheepshead Bay, Bermuda, 1976
Harold Williams, Newtown, Bahamas, 1976
Steve Williams, Erasmus Hall, US, 1976

All three of these guys were burning up the PSAL around the same time (72-73). I'm not positive if Steve Williams made the US team or not. Maybe someone from that era whose memory is not as foggy as mine could validate?

wineturtle
08-28-2009, 04:22 PM
Mike carried the flag for the Bahamas in `72.
100,200,4x100--72
100,400--76




Neither Williams has OG stats



Derrick Atkins ran 6th 10.13 in Bolts 9.85 semis

runforfun2
08-29-2009, 10:54 PM
how could you guys be forgetting tom murphy 1960 olympics 800m? jeez.
manhattan college alum. his grandsons also my buddy. hes my friend.

2 miler
08-30-2009, 06:34 AM
I think you mean Walt Murphy.

wineturtle
08-30-2009, 08:20 AM
how could you guys be forgetting tom murphy 1960 olympics 800m? jeez.
manhattan college alum. his grandsons also my buddy. hes my friend.

Great! Can you ask TM about the team order&splits for his 4x880WR and who was on the mixed Commonwealth team that beat them to the wire. I know USs Jerry Siebiert and Cunliffe but DK other 5 athletes.
thanks

Walt Murphy
08-30-2009, 08:43 AM
I think you mean Walt Murphy.

In my dreams. Tom Murphy is my cousin and is the reason I'm involved in the sport. He was a national H.S. record holder in the 600y while at St.Augustine in Brooklyn and an All-American at Manhattan College before making the 1960 Olympic team. (His side of the family got all of the running genes)

Walt Murphy
08-30-2009, 08:48 AM
Great! Can you ask TM about the team order&splits for his 4x880WR and who was on the mixed Commonwealth team that beat them to the wire. I know USs Jerry Siebiert and Cunliff but DK other 5 athletes.
thanks

This is what I wrote for my "This Day in T&F" series:

The highlight of this post-Olympic meet in London, between the U.S. and a team from the British Commonwealth, was the 2-mile relay. Ernie Cunliffe(1:51.2) and U.S. Trials champion Tom Murphy(1:52.5) held their own on the first two “tactical” legs against Tony Blue (Australia/1:51.1) and George Kerr (Jamaica/1:51.9), but their splits were far off their respective personal bests of 1:46.6 and 1:46.7. 1/4-miler Jack Yerman’s 1:49.1 3rd leg put the U.S. into the lead over Great Britain’s Tom Farrell, who split 1:50.3. Jerry Siebert, recovered from the illness that slowed him in Rome, sped his first lap in a quick 50.8, with Olympic 800 champion Peter Snell (New Zealand) in hot pursuit. The two went stride-for-stride until the final straightaway, when Snell pulled away from Siebert(1:46.6) to give the Commonwealth team the win. Snell’s anchor split was a sensational 1:44.8, which was far superior to the current world record for 800-meters(1:45.7).. The winning time of 7:18.0 was well under the world record of 7:20.9, but, since the team was comprised of runners from different countries, the mark was unacceptable for record purposes. The U.S., which ran 7:19.4, got credit for thw new world record, which was some consolation to Cunliffe, Murphy, and Siebert, who were all eliminated in the semi-finals of the 800 at the Rome Olympics. Yerman and Siebert were members of the University of California team that held the previous World Record.

PSlevin
08-30-2009, 10:51 AM
OOOps!
Probably my BIGGEST omition = Tom Murphy.
I coached his grandson (Thomas Murphy) while I was at St. Anthony's HS. Tom (Sr.) was a tremendous source of information/ inspiration for me as I led my Friars through their respective paces while at SAHS. He and his wife (and son Keith and his wife) were dear friends. Young Thomas went on to run for the Jaspers at Manhattan College (like Grandpa) and younger brother Pat Murphy will be a senior at SAHS this year.

My orginal idea for the list of Olympians and World Champs team members was to see just how many of them have roots in New York State high schools.
I wrote a thread about Liverpool's Jen Rhines because she made an unusal number of USA teams over the years.

I never had someone from MY high school (Floral Park Memorial HS) make an Olympic or world Championship team. The closest we came to it was 4 time gold medalist Al Oerter from neighboring (rival) Sewanhaka HS.

What about YOUR high school?
Who made on (or more) of thses teams?
Name the athlete.....and the high school.
Several have been emntioned. Some won medals. Some competed for "other" countries.

Tom Murphy- St. augistine HS
Nadine Faustin- Herricks HS (Haiti)
Tom Farrell- Molloy HS
Mike Sands- Sheepshead Bay HS (Puerto Rico)
Tony Colon- Power Mem. HS (Puerto Rico)
Willie Smith- Uniondale HS
Al Oerter- Sewanhaka HS
Derrick Adkins- Malverne HS
Jen Rhines- Liverpool HS
Dan Middleman- Clarke HS
Pete Pitzphinger- Pittsford-Sutherland HS


......................add to the list. Which HS has MORE than one???
-Pat-

2 miler
08-30-2009, 12:28 PM
Power Memorial has at least two with Tony Colon and Matt Centrowitz.

PSlevin
08-30-2009, 03:42 PM
Wow! You're right!
One little (Catholic!) school in Manhattan (without a track!) produced [at least] TWO Olympians and TONS of other "very good" runners.
Br. Bob Bielan (I think).......tremendous coach of middle distance/distance runners.

Who else?
Any other high schools with more than one??
Some of the "older schools" in NYC (CHSAA/PSAL schools)

Archbishop Molloy HS has (at least) 2:
Tom Farrell ['68?] and Kwan Lovelace who I believe competed for Belieze in Barcelona (triple jump).
BOTH former St. John's Univ. Redmen!!!!!!

got miles?
08-30-2009, 09:29 PM
One NY Olympian I don't think has been mentioned is John Tuttle (section V or VI?)....he ran the marathon at the 1984 games.... and like Jen Rhines he has worn the USA uniform at a large number of world events and is still competing at a world class level at 50ish....

coachb
08-31-2009, 07:55 PM
did anyone list Pete Pfitzinger?

coachb
08-31-2009, 08:08 PM
ok someone got Pete but Kevin young 400ih alvin henry 2000 trinidad and 1960 otis davis

SEAURCHIN
08-31-2009, 11:09 PM
did anyone list Pete Pfitzinger?

Yours truly!!! :p

MJR
09-09-2009, 01:46 PM
Tim Seaman from North Babylon HS (90) made the 2000 & 2004 teams in the 20km Race Walk. He has won 37 US titles (& counting) and has most of the US records from 3000m to 20km as well.

godzilla
09-15-2009, 07:36 PM
what about derek adkins from uniondale? was a gold medal winner in the 400m hurdles. i'm pretty sure it was '96

Scotty
09-15-2009, 07:58 PM
Abel Kiviat of Staten Island, NYS

Silver Medalist, 1912 (Stockholm) Olympic 1500m