2A Belvidere Sectional

[Hot Shot]

:eek: by far the roughest sectional to advance through...

thoughts and opinions...put them here!

[Alowe007]

Paul Zeman

[Nike_Knight]

I am so looking forward to seeing the results for this sectional. Everyone is going to be chasing down Belvidere North. There is probably going to be some insane performances.

[XC_Miler]

What teams will make it out of this tough sectional?

[DundeeDistance11]

Paul Zeman FTMFWZZZ B North all day. PR and CLC too, Ballers.

B North is unstopable with all of there runners returning next year..

[XC-lifer]

The Aurora Central Catholic regional should act as a good preview of Belvidere North's lead chase group. Marmion and PR continue to run a tight pack and in typical fashion, CLC is coming together when it counts. This should be a fun one.

[marengoscott]

http://www.athletic.net/CrossCountry/Division/Rank.aspx?DivID=8552&D=4828

Does not have all the meets everyone has run this year. But it is interesting.

For just a list of individuals.

http://www.athletic.net/CrossCountry/Division/List.aspx?DivID=8552

[Swoosh13]

http://www.athletic.net/CrossCountry/Division/Rank.aspx?DivID=8552&D=4828

Does not have all the meets everyone has run this year. But it is interesting.

For just a list of individuals.

http://www.athletic.net/CrossCountry/Division/List.aspx?DivID=8552

http://www.nerve.com/CS/blogs/61fps/2009/01/facepalm.jpg

[bouncepass]

If it had all the teams. It looks like there are a bunch of teams missing. :(

[neverstoprunning]

http://www.athletic.net/CrossCountry/Division/Rank.aspx?DivID=8552&D=4828

Does not have all the meets everyone has run this year. But it is interesting.

For just a list of individuals.

http://www.athletic.net/CrossCountry/Division/List.aspx?DivID=8552

im sorry but this is horrible

[Swoosh13]

If it had all the teams. It looks like there are a bunch of teams missing. :(

You can't just take everyone's best times and rank them, this isn't track

[mosheva]

You can't just take everyone's best times and rank them, this isn't track

QFMFE

[neverstoprunning]

You can't just take everyone's best times and rank them, this isn't track

plus he is missing a lot of results

[Alowe007]

You can't just take everyone's best times and rank them, this isn't track

But Why????

[bubraves]

But Why????

Each course is different, whether it is length or the overall conditions (hilly, flat, slow, fast). Also, teams changes. Injuries, replacing starters, and a player waking up and starting to succeed can all play a role

[neverstoprunning]

Each course is different, whether it is length or the overall conditions (hilly, flat, slow, fast). Also, teams changes. Injuries, replacing starters, and a player waking up and starting to succeed can all play a role

sarcasm much?

[Steady Eddy McDaniel]

Rankings dont mean anything anyways :eek:

[Swoosh13]

Rankings dont mean anything anyways :eek:

You take that back!

[Nike_Knight]

Rankings dont mean anything anyways :eek:

Blasphemy!

[lugenheimer]

But Why????

Because Swoosh said so. Duh.

[marengoscott]

Girls
Woodstock 45
Belvidere North 53
Sycamore 76
Marengo 111
Marian Central (woodstock) 125
Freeport 147
Rochelle 151
Bevidere 186
Rockford East 258

18:06.4,1,Adams,Katie,F,Marengo High School,Fr
18:19.8,2,Beattie,Kayla,F,Woodstock High School,Jr
18:29.6,3,Beattie,Elise,F,Woodstock High School,Sr
18:52.1,4,Levi,Kirsten,F,Belvidere North High School,Jr
19:54.4,5,Henning,Ava,F,Marengo High School,Jr
19:59.0,6,Manning,Allie,F,Woodstock Marian High School,Jr
20:18.5,7,Wolf,Kerstin,F,Woodstock High School,Fr
20:24.1,8,Strack,Tessa,F,Sycamore High School,So
20:26.0,9,Kremer,Aspen,F,Belvidere North High School,So
20:30.0,10,Johnson,Kendra,F,Sycamore High School,So
20:30.2,11,Mainguy,Kirsten,F,Belvidere North High School,So
20:35.9,12,Spate,Jacie,F,Belvidere North High School,Fr
20:42.0,13,Grandgeorge,Emma,F,Sycamore High School,Sr
20:43.6,14,Jacobs,Hailey,F,Woodstock High School,Jr
20:44.8,15,Dobbs,Michelle,F,Rochelle High School,Fr
20:45.8,16,Hull,Cambrai,F,Rochelle High School,Jr
20:50.1,17,Lee,Callie,F,Belvidere North High School,Jr
21:07.1,18,Hickey,Courtney,F,Freeport High School,Jr
21:14.0,19,Jacobs,Hannah,F,Woodstock High School,Fr
21:18.9,20,Carran,Stephanie,F,Woodstock Marian High School,Jr
21:19.2,21,Hurst,Amanda,F,Sycamore High School,Jr
21:19.6,22,Sprague,Katie,F,Marengo High School,Jr
21:31.6,23,Murphy,Baily,F,Belvidere North High School,Jr
21:38.6,24,Tolzin,Marisa,F,Sycamore High School,Sr
21:42.4,25,Thorpe,Nikki,F,Rochelle High School,Sr
21:42.6,26,Mercado,Melody,F,Belvidere High School,Fr
21:57.7,27,Sarich,Erin,F,Woodstock High School,Fr
22:10.7,28,Gulbrandsen,Paige,F,Woodstock Marian High School,Jr
22:11.0,29,Heaver,Lindsay,F,Woodstock High School,Sr
22:14.7,30,Stayer,Hope,F,Freeport High School,Sr
22:16.3,31,Spate,Jamie,F,Belvidere North High School,Fr
22:17.5,32,Bonvillain,Lauren,F,Freeport High School,Sr
22:21.6,33,Mrozek,Elizabeth,F,Freeport High School,Sr
22:38.2,34,Lloyd,Olivia,F,Freeport High School,Fr
22:38.5,35,Manion,Teresa,F,Woodstock Marian High School,Sr
22:43.3,36,Rechenberg,Amy,F,Woodstock Marian High School,Jr
22:44.2,37,Real,Ashley Del,F,Belvidere High School,Fr
22:49.9,38,McCarty,Becka,F,Belvidere High School,So
23:04.0,39,Simler,Katie,F,Freeport High School,So
23:12.3,40,Malinowski,Paige,F,Marengo High School,So
23:20.1,41,DeLacy,Amanda,F,Belvidere High School,Jr
23:21.1,42,Mottet,Jordan,F,Sycamore High School,Sr
23:26.0,43,Meyers,Payton,F,Marengo High School,So
23:30.0,44,Paramo,Lesley,F,Belvidere High School,Fr
23:33.3,45,Bowers,Shannon,F,Rochelle High School,Fr
23:36.0,46,Rangel,Claudia,F,Rockford East High School,Fr
23:51.4,47,Van Der Bosch,Meg,F,Woodstock Marian High School,Fr
24:02.8,48,Tillmon,Logan,F,Rockford East High School,Fr
24:15.1,49,Schwartz,Melissa,F,Belvidere High School,Jr
24:21.1,50,Zilis,Becky,F,Rochelle High School,Sr
24:55.9,51,Schneider,Kendall,F,Rockford East High School,So
25:03.5,52,Casleton,Hanna,F,Woodstock Marian High School,Fr
25:20.1,53,Roth,Emily,F,Freeport High School,Sr
26:26.4,54,Blevins,Sierra,F,Rochelle High School,Fr
26:47.3,55,Schwebke,Meghan,F,Belvidere High School,Sr
30:13.0,56,Honaker,Heidi,F,Rockford East High School,Fr
30:24.9,57,Tillman,Amber,F,Rockford East High School,Fr

[marengoscott]

Belvidere North 22
Sycamore 54
Woodstock 89
Freeport 133
Rockford East 137
Marian (Woodstock) 157
Rochelle 163
Belvidere 206

24:13.4,58,Anderson,Hunter,M,Belvidere High School,Jr
21:31.8,57,Huftalin,Frank,M,Rochelle High School,So
20:36.5,56,Stokes,Dalton,M,Belvidere High School,Fr
20:08.0,55,Johnston,Kirk,M,Belvidere High School,Jr
20:03.7,54,Moss,Randall,M,Rochelle High School,Sr
19:48.2,53,Aguilar,Sergio,M,Marengo High School,Jr
19:45.0,52,McCaffrey,Christian,M,Belvidere High School,Fr
19:37.8,51,Williams,Joe,M,Belvidere High School,So
19:28.7,50,Simmons,AJ,M,Freeport High School,Jr
19:27.4,49,Saini,Raghav,M,Freeport High School,Sr
15:55.4,1,Kinsley,Tyson,M,Sycamore High School,Sr
16:03.3,2,Yunk,Bruyn,M,Belvidere North High School,Jr
16:07.1,3,Volkey,Logan,M,Belvidere North High School,Jr
16:11.4,4,Yunk,Tyler,M,Belvidere North High School,Fr
16:20.2,5,Menard,Paxson,M,Belvidere North High School,Fr
16:32.0,6,Meyer,Phillip,M,Woodstock High School,Jr
16:37.2,7,Fuller,J.D.,M,Woodstock High School,Jr
16:41.2,8,Konen,Nate,M,Belvidere North High School,Sr
16:42.5,9,Rapp,Carl,M,Belvidere North High School,Jr
16:47.6,10,White,Tim,M,Rochelle High School,Sr
17:00.2,11,Powers,Riley,M,Sycamore High School,So
17:03.7,12,Konwinski,Steven,M,Sycamore High School,Sr
17:05.5,13,Smith,BJ,M,Freeport High School,Fr
17:06.4,14,Harto,Brett,M,Sycamore High School,Sr
17:07.5,15,Wozniak,Andrew,M,Woodstock Marian High School,Jr
17:14.0,16,Aase,Mitchell,M,Sycamore High School,Sr
17:14.4,17,Klein,Aaron,M,Sycamore High School,Sr
17:15.7,18,Lee,Garrett,M,Belvidere North High School,Fr
17:16.8,19,Gomez,Oscar,M,Rockford East High School,Jr
17:24.5,20,Morwood,Nick,M,Freeport High School,Jr
17:31.7,21,Glynn,Jimmy,M,Freeport High School,So
17:33.4,22,Semmen,Tim,M,Woodstock High School,So
17:34.1,23,Fraedrich,Ryan,M,Sycamore High School,Sr
17:34.5,24,Pedroza,Josh,M,Belvidere High School,Jr
17:39.0,25,Peters,Townshend,M,Woodstock High School,Sr
17:41.4,26,Tillman,Matt,M,Rockford East High School,Jr
17:43.7,27,Larson,Nick,M,Rockford East High School,So
17:51.8,28,Mackey,Austin,M,Rockford East High School,So
17:53.9,29,Hess,David,M,Woodstock High School,Sr
17:54.9,30,Foley,Alex,M,Woodstock Marian High School,Jr
17:58.2,31,Gloria,Alberto,M,Belvidere High School,Sr
18:02.9,32,Kueking,Pat,M,Marengo High School,Jr
18:11.3,33,Ehardt,Mark,M,Woodstock Marian High School,Sr
18:15.6,34,Nordin,Matt,M,Woodstock High School,Jr
18:22.6,35,Sweezy,Kyle,M,Rochelle High School,So
18:25.9,36,Gabriel,Chris,M,Freeport High School,Sr
18:30.0,37,Rivera,Tyler,M,Rochelle High School,Fr
18:30.3,38,Alvarez,David,M,Marengo High School,Fr
18:42.8,39,Randels,Tyler,M,Rockford East High School,Jr
18:43.2,40,Wendling,John,M,Rochelle High School,Sr
18:43.8,41,Waters,Aaron,M,Woodstock Marian High School,Fr
18:44.7,42,Finley,John,M,Rockford East High School,Fr
18:47.1,43,Weiler,Pat,M,Woodstock Marian High School,Sr
18:56.3,44,Friberg,Matthew,M,Rockford East High School,Jr
19:04.1,45,Leinweber,Jake,M,Woodstock High School,Jr
19:08.6,46,Brentner,Steffa,M,Freeport High School,So
19:14.7,47,MacPartland,Hank,M,Rochelle High School,Sr
19:23.2,48,Cwerenz,Brian,M,Woodstock Marian High School,Sr

[tincup1215]

ACC, Fenton, Antioch, and Freeport Regional results are all posted on the IHSA site.

It looks like the top 5 right now are Belvidere North, followed by the ACC Quartet of Marmion, Kaneland, Crystal Lake, and Prairie Ridge.

[lugenheimer]

18:52.1,4,Levi,Kirsten,F,Belvidere North High School,Jr

Kristen Levi ftwz!!!!!

[XC_Miler]

What is going to be the outcome of this saturday?

[OnStacks]

I think Belvidere North will easily be the top team in the sectional, but the next 2 spots are certainly up for grabs. The Aurora regional the top 3 teams, who are in the sectional, were only separated by 4 points. CLC is certainly on the upswing and I really think they will start to surprise people. Especially with a healthy Alvarez, who I think can take the individual title. Look for them to fill one of those spots, as well as Prairie Ridge who has a tight front pack.

[mosheva]

Anyone doing a solid predictions team/individual thread?

[Hibbitish]

I think Belvidere North will easily be the top team in the sectional, but the next 2 spots are certainly up for grabs. The Aurora regional the top 3 teams, who are in the sectional, were only separated by 4 points. CLC is certainly on the upswing and I really think they will start to surprise people. Especially with a healthy Alvarez, who I think can take the individual title. Look for them to fill one of those spots, as well as Prairie Ridge who has a tight front pack.

Top 4 teams actually.

Aurora(66), Kaneland(66), CLC(70), and PR(70) were all right there. I agree that Belvidere will win, but these 4 teams could be in any order not far behind.

[marengoscott]

how about the girls -- who will be advancing to state?

[OnStacks]

Better question. Who cares?

[Dirty Robe]

The rankings they got up for this sectional is a joke.

[Nike_Knight]

The rankings they got up for this sectional is a joke.

Do explain.

[tincup1215]

The rankings they got up for this sectional is a joke.

Ya I'd love to see your top 5.

Mine is

1.BN
2. CLS or PR, or Kane, or Marm
3. CLS or PR, or Kane, or Marm
4. CLS or PR, or Kane, or Marm
5. CLS or PR, or Kane, or Marm

[Moocher]

I like how everyone is discounting Sycamore.
They lost to Kaneland by 9 points at the western sun.
They ran Powers down at that meet. He was second man at regional.
If he was 2nd man at the conference meet they would of been real close to Kaneland or in front of them. One of the 6 teams is not going to get out.
With Kinsely up front Sycamore is going to be in the mix.
They have been there before. So has Kaneland CLC and Belvidere North
Marmion and Prairie Ridge are both great programs but they haven't been in a sectional meet with a team berth on the line. How they will perform under this kinda of pressure will determine the outcome of this sectional.

[Moocher]

The course is going to be sloppy at best. All around the baseball field is already a muddy mess and 2 more inches of rain starting tonight is only going to make matters worse, plus all the 90 degree turns are going to be slick. Look for times to be slow. Maybe 5 under 16 minutes at best.
But why would this week be any different than the last 5!

[tincup1215]

You also have way to many IFs in your rationale. Sycamore is solid, but like Kaneland 2 years ago, I see them finishing 6th even though they are a top 10 team in the state.

We'll see how saturday goes, it'll be a day for the mudders.

They got Kinsley, but if their pack doesn't tighten up they won't make it out

[Alowe007]

I like how everyone is discounting Sycamore.
They lost to Kaneland by 9 points at the western sun.
They ran Powers down at that meet. He was second man at regional.
If he was 2nd man at the conference meet they would of been real close to Kaneland or in front of them. One of the 6 teams is not going to get out.
With Kinsely up front Sycamore is going to be in the mix.
They have been there before. So has Kaneland CLC and Belvidere North
Marmion and Prairie Ridge are both great programs but they haven't been in a sectional meet with a team berth on the line. How they will perform under this kinda of pressure will determine the outcome of this sectional.

I'm gonna go out and say that Sycamore will finish ahead of Kaneland

[rnnr56]

the girls' sectional preview doesn't seem to take into account that ACC is one of the fastest courses out there -- i know conditions were bad this year, but they were bad at all of the regionals.

i think on the girls' side we'll see st. francis and st. viator battling for the team title - slight edge to st. viator as they have a front runner in winter, st. francis' two top girls will get pushed back a little in the more competitive field. after that woodstock is tough with the beatties up front. crystal lake central, burlington central, kaneland, and belvidere north look strong, but i wouldn't count out montini, lakes, or sycamore either.

i agree with moocher that the wet course conditions will definitely play a part. running smart around the sharp, slick turns is going to be huge on saturday.

[Swoosh13]

Marmion and Prairie Ridge are both great programs but they haven't been in a sectional meet with a team berth on the line. How they will perform under this kinda of pressure will determine the outcome of this sectional.

Um what? PR got 9th place at state in 2001 and was in contention for state berths as recently as 2006 in the big boy class, that's not that long ago. It's certainly a lot more than fricken Kaneland has done

[tincup1215]

They also were one of the smallest schools in AA from 2000-2007. They still fielded strong teams during those years, I wouldn't really question what they did before that, just go to the IHSA website and see for yourself

[Moocher]

Um what? PR got 9th place at state in 2001 and was in contention for state berths as recently as 2006 in the big boy class, that's not that long ago. It's certainly a lot more than fricken Kaneland has done

I bet the guys on PR got alot of experience as 9 and 10 year olds in 2001!
How many of them were running varsity in 2006?

[Moocher]

By the way in 2001 PR did not get any place at state and Kaneland finished
6th at the Wheaton North sectional 8 points from 5th. 4 of the top 5 in the state came from that sectional. WWS tanked to 21st. Kaneland also had an enrollment of about 800 at that time. But again the the boys on the current team were 9 year olds and gained nothing from this. But somehow that is significant to you and your all knowingness!

[xcaw3]

By the way in 2001 PR did not get any place at state and Kaneland finished
6th at the Wheaton North sectional 8 points from 5th. 4 of the top 5 in the state came from that sectional. WWS tanked to 21st. Kaneland also had an enrollment of about 800 at that time. But again the the boys on the current team were 9 year olds and gained nothing from this. But somehow that is significant to you and your all knowingness!

Although the guys on the current team were not there in 2000 or 2006, they have been on varsity long enough to gain sectional experience. The team has been young the past couple of years so many of the current varsity team has run sectionals in the past.

[Swoosh13]

They also were one of the smallest schools in AA from 2000-2007. They still fielded strong teams during those years, I wouldn't really question what they did before that, just go to the IHSA website and see for yourself

I'm the one who's ignorant? If you want to go back before 2000 then you need to realize that PR wasn't a school yet and was a part of Crystal Lake Central and you REALLY don't want to go there.

[Swoosh13]

I bet the guys on PR got alot of experience as 9 and 10 year olds in 2001!
How many of them were running varsity in 2006?

Both Kaneland and PR run in invites that are better than the AA state meet so I really doubt that Kaneland has an edge on experience just cuz they got to run in the AA state meet last year

[tincup1215]

now you're comparing apples to oranges. You rip Kaneland's history and then you get all defensive about CL and PR when I never questioned it? Crystal Lake was and still is good. I know this because I actually know my history.

For someone with a lot of posts, you sure don't read or research well. Keep up the good work with the rankings though

[Swoosh13]

now you're comparing apples to oranges. You rip Kaneland's history and then you get all defensive about CL and PR when I never questioned it? Crystal Lake was and still is good. I know this because I actually know my history.

For someone with a lot of posts, you sure don't read or research well. Keep up the good work with the rankings though

I was ripping the notion that someone said that Kaneland would be more prepared than PR because they had "been there". I pointed out that there is nothing to show in the last 10 years that Kaneland has "been there" more than PR. You decided to bring up history longer than that, not me, and I pointed out that PR didn't exist then and was part of Central. Reading comprehension is a good thing, you should try it some time. Sarcasm? Not your best suit.

[tincup1215]

Ya i just re-read the last couple of pages of this and still don't get where you're coming from so I agree to disagree. And how could you sense the sarcasm? I really do love the rankings

Back on topic here is my new top 5 for the sectional

1. BVN
2. CLS or PR, or Kane, or Marm or Syc
3. CLS or PR, or Kane, or Marm or Syc
4. CLS or PR, or Kane, or Marm or Syc
5. CLS or PR, or Kane, or Marm or Syc

[Dirty Robe]

Ya I'd love to see your top 5.

Mine is

1.BN
2. CLS or PR, or Kane, or Marm
3. CLS or PR, or Kane, or Marm
4. CLS or PR, or Kane, or Marm
5. CLS or PR, or Kane, or Marm

lol this was funny.

But I believe that Kaneland won't make it, they could fall all the way to like 8th in my opinion. Lakes Community was in a meet with CLC earlier this year, (the wauconda inv.) and would have been one place behind them had their best runner not dropped out due to an injury(he is back and 100%). Sycamore's regional times were horendous. I just think that everyone will be surprised on how things turn out. It will be an exciting race.

[tincup1215]

8th? are you expecting their whole team to trip at the start?

[tincup1215]

that doesn't sound like me at all. I like people who think they have every answer in the book

[tincup1215]

Feel free to go back in this thread though and find you're justification. I'd start with post 36 and read. Maybe you'll see the light.

Maybe you could do a Power Rankings of School's History since you seem to know so much about Illinois XC?

[Hibbitish]

Maybe you could do a Power Rankings of School's History since you seem to know so much about Illinois XC?

Oh god, I wonder who number one would be...

[XcRuNnEr001]

Kinsley wins individual title, beating Zeman. Any team results?

[lugenheimer]

Kinsley wins individual title, beating Zeman. Any team results?

Belvidere North wins 36 to 2nd Place's 113.

[zoominvon1]

Belvidere North wins 36 to 2nd Place's 113.

Belvidere North 36; Prarie Ridge 113; Sycamore 142;
Kaneland 144; Marmion Academy 148; Crystal Lake Central 152; Lake Villa Lakes 178;
Woodstock 191; Richmond-Burton 257; Wheaton St. Francis 285; Glenbard South 357; St.
Viator 359; Burlington Central 371; Fenton 401; Johnsburg 403; Freeport 437;
Grayslake North 444; Grayslake Central 446; Vernon Hills 449; Rockford East 474.

[tincup1215]

Zoompast +5,

I'm never questioning Moocher again, good call on Sycamore qualifying.

It's unfortunate Crystal Lake finished 6th as they are definitly a top 10 team in 2A.

Watching Kinsley, Alvarez, and Zemen battle it out was awesome. Hopefully it'll be nicer next saturday so we can see some faster times. That wind was brutal.

Swoosh do you have selective reading problems or are you busy getting "insider" information to do your Rankings?

Ex: OMG I heard Fairleigh went 2:08 on his 2nd set of 800s during practice so he gets moved up from 15 to 13! Also was told Zemen had a hangnail on the outside of his pinkie so he drops from 23 to 24.

[illinoisprepster]

Anyone know what happen to freshman star Katie Adams of Marengo??

[Big Cat]

I spoke to her coach, who told me the flu got her this week. She gutted it out but just missed qualifying. It's a shame - she's a great runner and I can't wait to see her in track.

Anyone know what happen to freshman star Katie Adams of Marengo??

[Alowe007]

I'm gonna go out and say that Sycamore will finish ahead of Kaneland

I'm good

[pbzn]

love you al
sorry for not txting
i will later
happy halloween:eek:

[Hot Shot]

Well i was at the Belvidere sectional today and there is no doubt that it was an awesome race between Zeman, Alvarez and Kinsley! Also knowing Elward won his sectional...this coming weekend should be super exciting! Many individuals are starting to shine and peak at the right time...but who will win it ALL?!?!

[Alowe007]

love you al
sorry for not txting
i will later
happy halloween:eek:

<3 love love love.
You are the best

SAME TO YOU

[BCRunner2010]

I bet the guys on PR got alot of experience as 9 and 10 year olds in 2001!


btw, did you know PR is going to state? They came 2nd at sectionals...

[Alowe007]

love you al
sorry for not txting
i will later
happy halloween:eek:

u still huven't texts meee