New Mexico or Arizona

[rippev]

Who do you think will win border wars?

Edit: and who will be the scoring 5 for each state?

[underdog]

The meet scores 15 from each state.

On the boys you ar looking at 5 of the folowing:

AZ
Tolan Thorton - Northland Prep
Donovan Tsinnijinnie - Page
Levi Lomeland - Page
Nathan Lee - Page
Weston Jones - Red Mesa
Bryce Livingston - Salpoint
Matt Rowell - Blue Ridge
Garrett Kelly - Desert Vista
I'ms sure I'm leaving out a couple.

NM
Matt Tebo - Eldorado
Ryan Nez - Navajo Prep
Ryan Mc Niff - Los Alamos
Ben Johnson - Academy
Simon Gilna - Los Alamos
Dustin Martin - Academy
Nick Arguellas - Highland
Obed Hernandez - Cobre
Matt Everett - La Cueva

Between the two states it is going to be close. Page and Academy showed how close the two states are. Tebo and Thorton have similar track times.

[mountainman]

not saying NM will win, but this is the best year individually for boys since I don't know when. Tebo is probably top 10-15 in the nation and McNiff and Johnson probably have outside shots at FL Nationals as well. If NM were to beat AZ, this is the year. Of course, Academy could opt out of Border War again if they make NTN which would seriously hurt NM's team. On a side note, I'm curious to see how out of state runners do at Academy's course given its recorded history.

[RedArmy]

We're in this year.

[hhsxc]

Arizona also has James Bogner. Look for him at AZ State Meet. Also a few other top runners. Matt Tebo will take the win.

[NM Runner]

What about the NM Girls. They have a strong team that could beat Arizona. Vanessa Ortiz, Cibola; Irena Ossola and Tess Amer from St. Michael's all seem to be as fast or faster than Kristen Hemphill was last year when she finished 4th. The girls are also deeper this year. I think the top NM Girl could possibly beat AZ's Hardt.

[RedArmy]

AZ Girls:

JILLIAN KLASSEN SCOTTSDALE CHRISTIAN
DANI HIGGINS BENSON H.S.
JANEEN YAZZIE WINSLOW H.S.
TIFFANY SORRELL WINDOW ROCK H.S.
ALANDRIA REID GANADO H.S.
KATRINA LEE PAGE H.S.
ROCHELLE KANUHO COCONINO H.S.
TARA ERDMANN FLOWING WELLS H.S.
KRISTIAN PHILLIPS MOUNTAIN POINTE H.S.
PATRICIA BARELLA DESERT VISTA H.S.
AUBRI CARMAN MOUNTAIN POINTE H.S.
CHELSEA CHAUVET HORIZON H.S.
LAUREN REICH RED MOUNTAIN H.S
NASTIA BISHTON MOUNTAIN RIDGE H.S.
NADYA BISHTON MOUNTAIN RIDGE H.S.
CHARITY CURLEY PAGE H.S.
CHELSEA LANE MOUNTAIN POINTE H.S.
KYLEE CHACON MOUNTAIN RIDGE H.S.
NATASA VULIC MOUNTAIN POINTE H.S.
KATELYN WILLIAMS KOFA H.S.
SARAH GOLDBERG FLAGSTAFF H.S.

AZ boys:
CRAIG cURLEY ST. MICHAEL
WESTON JONES RED MESA H.S.
DANIEL MARTINEZ TOMBSTONE
MATT ROWELL BLUE RIDGE
MARK MOLERA RIO RICO H.S.
DONOVAN TSINNIJINNIE PAGE H.S.
JAMES BOGNER PARADISE VALLEY
BRYCE LIVINGSTON SALPOINTE
SHARLES SIMON CENTRAL H.S.
JAMES SCHOW MARANA MOUNTAIN VIEW H.S.
ANDREW PRICE HORIZON H.S.
MIKE RODRIGUEZ DOBSON H.S.
JIM WALMSLEY HORIZON H.S.
JACKSON MESSER SALPOINTE H.S.
THOMAS PETERSON YUMA CATHOLIC
MATT SWIFT-KRAEMER DESERT VISTA H.S
JOHSUA GHER SUNRISE MOUNTAIN H.S.
BRENDAN MCMASTERS CORONA del SOL H.S.
NATHAN LEE PAGE H.S.
RICK WORKER TUBA CITY H.S.
TANNER CAROTHERS NORTHLAND PREP H.S.
ERIC HARASYN BUENA H.S.
SCOTT MAYBERRY BUENA H.S.
DONALD KAEHLER MOUNTAIN POINTE H.S.
VICTOR ZAZUETA DESERt VIEW H.S.

NM Girls:
Vanessa Ortiz - Cibola
Irena Ossola - St. Michaels
Tess Amer - St. Michaels
Brandy Castillo - Carlsbad
Alexandra Blum - Los Alamos
Amanda Throckmorton - Academy
Lyndsay Harper - Academy
Ashley Quintana - Pecos
Patty Murray - St. Michaels
Brittany Castillo - Carlsbad
Erin Madden - Eldorado
Jerri Martin - Gallup
Carollan Ehn - Albuquerque High
Paige Throckmorton - Academy
Kathryn Quintana - Pojoaque
Susan Muraida - Academy
Sophia Torres - Pojoaque
Shahanna Begay - Navajo Prep
Ashley Lovato - Belen
Ellie Joles - Academy
Chantel Hunt - Navajo Pine
Kaydee McCray - Navajo Prep
Three more to go.

NM Boys:
Matt Tebo - Eldorado
Ryan McNiff - Los Alamos
Kevin McNally - Eldorado
Simon Gilna - Los Alamos
Dustin Martin - Academy
Nick Arguelles - Highland
Ben Johnson - Academy
Matt Everett - La Cueva
Philbert Brown - Gallup
Ryan Nez - Navajo Pine
Nathan Romero - Los Alamos
Chris Talayumpetwa - Gallup
Sam Mellon - Highland
Jason Petty - St. Pius X
Drew Rasmussen - Cibola
Federico Crosby - West Mesa
Jeremy Chavez - Capital
Matt Fant - St. Michaels
Patrick Ortiz - Pecos
Randy Nez - Navajo Pine
Cal Armerding - Academy
Martin Aquilar - Penasco
Mikal Davis - Sandia
Luis Chavez - Capital
Taylor Roholt - Sandia Prep

[RedArmy]

Arizona is without Hardt on the girls side, and Thorton on the boys.
New Mexico looks to be without some of the Eldorado girls.

[watchout]

New Mexico is just too dominating up front, with Tebo and McNiff specifically ... and they could put their first 5 in before AZ's #3.

But, since it is scored through 15 ... Arizona still has a shot. But I'll give the edge to NM.

[MaroonCat1600]

why no nevada?

[RedArmy]

Nevada elected to not participate. I'm not sure why.

[BLCH]

Enough talk!!!

Actually the "talk" has been pathetic at best!

But really, who is the best?

New Mexico has the "Glamour Names" Tebo, Johnson, Martin, Gilna, McNalley, Arguellas, and the like, but can they really stand up to Arizona???

Arizona has never lost in the border wars. Is New Mexico good enough to stand up to AZ?


Well history says yes NM can hang, and possibly dominate. We'll all find out Saturday!!!!

[rippev]

Enough talk!!!

Actually the "talk" has been pathetic at best!

But really, who is the best?

New Mexico has the "Glamour Names" Tebo, Johnson, Martin, Gilna, McNalley, Arguellas, and the like, but can they really stand up to Arizona???

Arizona has never lost in the border wars. Is New Mexico good enough to stand up to AZ?


Well history says yes NM can hang, and possibly dominate. We'll all find out Saturday!!!!

new mexico will dominate. anybody think tebo will get the CR?

[RedArmy]

I don't think NM will dominate. Remember it is scored 15 deep. I do feel that the NM kids and the AZ kids are fairly even - case in point Page and Academy at Gallup.

Tebo is good. After that thre is not much difference. It all depends on how well the AZ kids manage the course. 2 points - one, at altitude you need to run smart early, and two, on the long slight uphill first mile of AA course you need to run smart early.

[eagle08]

new mexico will dominate. anybody think tebo will get the CR?

i do, i do.

[Shiznit.]

new mexico

[TeamZissou]

AZ is running without a lot of their top runners. Hardt on the girls side, and THornton and Kelly on the boys side.

[rippev]

tebo killed everybody and got the CR 15:15. vanessa petty easily won the girls race getting the CR in like 18:30

[code155]

zobel pw3d all today. hahaha

[eagle08]

haha i was right

[rippev]

lol yea yea... good race today!

[NVJumper13]

why no nevada?
it had something to do with not bordering new mexico...and other states saying we aren't good enough...and everyone in nevada being poor...

http://www.nvtrackstats.com/forums/showthread.php?t=859

[barkleybeast]

it had something to do with not bordering new mexico...and other states saying we aren't good enough...and everyone in nevada being poor...

http://www.nvtrackstats.com/forums/showthread.php?t=859

I've also heard that after last year's Border War II, what NM and AZ really wanted was to put together a Four Corners Border War with Utah and Colorado, and thus whether Nevada came or not wasn't a big concern. I guess they couldn't get it together with UT and CO for this year, but maybe next year.

Nevertheless, I can understand Nevada's concern about travel cost.

[DCsoloRunner]

somebody find a way to get one of those NM singlets, man those are so freaking sweet.

[NM Runner]

New Mexico defeated Arizona again this weekend at the Footlocker West Regionals. In the Boys it was 94-108 with NM earning 3rd and AZ earning the 4th position. In the Girls NM won 90-102 with NM earning 2nd place honors.

New Mexico had the tougher team this year and no one can play the altitude card when looking at Border War III.

[TeamZissou]

yeah. overall arizona pretty much ran a bad race.

hats off to nm.

[Aragorn Elessar]

voted AZ

[watchout]

voted AZ

congrats.