Counties

[sirtrackalot]

Whos is favored in Class AA boys and girls? Jfk girls should win, but I heard Hewlett beat them in quads? I know a championship is different but I thought Hewlett lost some girls? Lynbrook and Garden City should be a contender with SouthSide being a pretender again. What about Westbury Girls ? And who will win the Boys ?????????

[Armstrong23]

As for Class AA Boys, Southside is clearly the favorite as of now. I don't think they have anything to worry about. The threats posed by Westbury, Great Neck South, Calhoun, and Lynbrook are very miniscule, as Southside has every running event covered. The field events will be important, as Southside isn't too strong in anything. Adam Carafella jumps 5'8, but that won't score in Counties behind some of the big guns in Nate King and Pete McElwain. Southside's triple jump and long jump squad isn't anything special, and their throwers don't do too much damage either. However, I don't think any of the other contenders will be able to pick up the necessary points in those events to pull out a victory against Southside. They're way to strong, and I'm going to have to start seeing some results from Westbury, GNS, Calhoun, and Lynbrook in order to change my mind.

[Mike]

Track meets aren't won on paper

[IveGotTheRuns]

GNS should dominate the long and triple as they have the nassau county champion Danny Hu, they also have James stultz who is undefeated in the 400 and the 200. As of the other events Macarthur and Kosta should be able to score some points. Calhoun also has some really good distance runners and some good throwers. As for Lynbrook, they are a deep team they will be up there..

[Armstrong23]

Incorrect. Westbury will dominate the triple jump with Charlie Roberson and Marvin Voltaire. They will also score some points in the long jump. While Hu will score well (if he even competes in them), he will score a maximum of 14 points. As for Stultz, he's a great runner, no contesting there. However, you mentioned Calhoun's throwers. Alex Demosthenous (sp?) will not compete in spring track because of baseball. Calhoun does have Peter McElwain, however, who may score some points in the high jump.

Anybody have predictions on AA individual event winners?

[Kirpar123]

Westbury jumpers dont stand a chance against Danny Hu who keeps breaking his personal record and has almost jumped 22

[sirtrackalot]

and what about the girls ?

[Armstrong23]

Kirpar, I am not taking anything away from Danny Hu. He's a spectacular athlete and an awesome person. However, I said Westbury will beat him in the triple jump. They will. Statistically, Voltaire and Roberson have been better jumpers than Hu in the triple jump. He out-does them in the long jump, though. In Counties, he may not even triple jump at all. He's the favorite in the long jump, a high contender in the 400ih, and could be part of a winning 4x400 relay along with Stultz and possibly MacArthur?

[Kirpar123]

thats possible, it should be a good meet to watch...

[BreatheIt]

However, I said Westbury will beat him in the triple jump. They will. Statistically, Voltaire and Roberson have been better jumpers than Hu in the triple jump.

Okay, I understand if paper and results say these guys are better than this guy. But, dont start stating two weeks pre counties that he WILL lose. Please, yes those guys are "statistically" better on paper, but you never really know what will happen. Im not saying he will beat them, or that he wont. Just dont start stating what someone will do and wont do before they do it. You arent the athlete.

[Armstrong23]

Okay, I understand if paper and results say these guys are better than this guy. But, dont start stating two weeks pre counties that he WILL lose. Please, yes those guys are "statistically" better on paper, but you never really know what will happen. Im not saying he will beat them, or that he wont. Just dont start stating what someone will do and wont do before they do it. You arent the athlete.

If Hu does even end up triple jumping and beats Roberson and Voltaire, then I'll be so proud of Danny. However, I've seen these three guys jump several times, and both Roberson and Voltaire have gone over 43 indoors. They are the favorites, that's all I'm saying. Of course an underdog can win. But Hu's personal record is, I believe, 41'10''. Roberson has gone for 43'6'' and Voltaire has done about the same. Thats a big 1.5 feet to overcome with only two weeks left. And chances are Hu's not even going to be triple jumping. But if he does, he definitely has a chance to win. He's just the underdog for now.

I'm a fan of the underdog, though. After all, I am one..

[sirtrackalot]

so , no comments about the girls in counties....So is it going to be Uniondale, Garden City and VS north.. What about JFk and Hewlett in aa.
Syossett, South side and ?? for the boys

[Impavidus]

As much as I would love to see Garden City, and Great Neck South, they are depending too much on a few guys. Sure White could win 3 events on his own, and Hu, Stultz and Macarthur are performing well, but none of these teams are all very deep. Syosset will score in everything from the 400IH-3200, and at least the 1600 and 3200 meter relays. Uniondale will clean up the sprints as always, but will it be enough to over power the depth of Syosset? Class AA should be a battle for the ages. Lynbrook coming off the win indoors should not be counted out in the least bit. South Side as always is looking very strong as well. Kieran, Terrence and Dante are just a few of the natural leaders on that team. One problem is, with the 4-5 teams in contention, about 4 of them (Lynbrook, South Side, Calhoun, Great Neck South) are distance oriented teams, so they'll be killing themselves. If one team pulls out 2-3 good sprinters/jumpers, that could make the difference. Class A could go any number of ways. Manhasset, although winners in the past, I feel can be counted out of it. Roosevelt is very strong in the sprints and jumps. Carle Place did win Class C XC, so they'll do well in the distance, as they have nobody to compete with aside for Vince and the OB squad, and Squire. West Hempstead is also very strong with number of powerful 400-200 guys, with Elvis clearly leading the way. Should be some great exciting races on the 17th and 18th. Hope everyone is there to watch.


Girls, I'll post later maybe.

[PeterQuince]

On the boys side, I wouldn't expect to see many Manhasset entries at all. Too many injuries and complicating factors. Manhasset boys shouldn't be counted out of individual events at all, but three or four studs does not a full team make.

A battle for the ages, eh? I'm tempted to reserve that title for future championship meets, but I agree that it does look very close for AA.

Syosset, with its distance depth, still couldn't win last year, and I'm tempted to ask how many more points could they get this year with a faster Howell.

2004...
1600, 16 pts
3200, 14 pts
400 IH, 6 pts
800, 20 pts
SC, 22 pts
4x1, 1 pt
4x4, 2 pts
4x8, 10 pts

Denby and D. Tully took 1-2 in the steeple--can't get any more points than that unless someone can take third. S. Tully won two events and got fourth in another. I mean, yes, Howell scoring will help a lot, but there are only so many more distance points that these boys can earn without branching into the 400 etc. Maybe they can 1-2-3 in all the distance events, and maybe this year AAA is weak enough that they will be able to, but short of that they need more than just the relay men and Denby.

[got miles?]

On the boys side, I wouldn't expect to see many Manhasset entries at all. Too many injuries and complicating factors. Manhasset boys shouldn't be counted out of individual events at all, but three or four studs does not a full team make.

A battle for the ages, eh? I'm tempted to reserve that title for future championship meets, but I agree that it does look very close for AA.

Syosset, with its distance depth, still couldn't win last year, and I'm tempted to ask how many more points could they get this year with a faster Howell.

2004...
1600, 16 pts
3200, 14 pts
400 IH, 6 pts
800, 20 pts
SC, 22 pts
4x1, 1 pt
4x4, 2 pts
4x8, 10 pts

Denby and D. Tully took 1-2 in the steeple--can't get any more points than that unless someone can take third. S. Tully won two events and got fourth in another. I mean, yes, Howell scoring will help a lot, but there are only so many more distance points that these boys can earn without branching into the 400 etc. Maybe they can 1-2-3 in all the distance events, and maybe this year AAA is weak enough that they will be able to, but short of that they need more than just the relay men and Denby.




Syosset will likely earn more points this year in the 1600, 4 x 400, and definitely the pole vault....Farmingdale, Baldwin, Elmont, Hempstead and Freeport will help take away Uniondale points so I think Syosset will win by 20 points and get Coach Sessa his first track championship...

Looks like Roosevelt in A...AA could be any of five teams to me...

On the girls side:
Uniondale over Hempstead in AAA
JFK Bellmore over Hewlett in AA
Valley Stream North over Valley Stream South in A

[sirtrackalot]

no love for the garden city girls team. they can beat jfk and hewlett. they are very balanced and deep. hurdles are big for them.

[got miles?]

no love for the garden city girls team. they can beat jfk and hewlett. they are very balanced and deep. hurdles are big for them.


I agree that Garden City has an excellent team and could win AA....as you say they will score big points in the hurdles plus they can chip away at all events other than distance races.....however JFK figures to get 50 points from Krifchin and DiMaggio and will probably get above 90 overall...

[sirtrackalot]

i heard that garden city and hewlett girls beat bellmore jfk today, looks like county aa is up for grabs

[NYrunner26]

The boys AA Counties is just about 4 days away. Im sure one ? keeps going through your head who is going to WIN! To be honest its going to be close. Although the times from southside make it seem as if there the ones. With the shot and no one in front of them to challenge them. But i beg the diff as we all know track meets arent won on paper.

"To beat the best, sometimes all you have to do is beat yourself"

[Impavidus]

Does South Side have anyone in the 110HH, LJ, TJ, Shot, Discus, or HJ? They might lose alot of points right there alone. Which of the teams that are figthing for the title have field events?

[The X-Factor]

does anyone know the order of events for the county meet on tuesday and wed?

[PeterQuince]

Without many changes since 2000 (when I remember 800m heats and finals), this is the schedule for running events...

Day One
110/100 HH semi-finals
100 M semi-finals
800 M finals
200 M semi-finals
3000 M finals
400 IH finals
100 M finals
3200 M finals
4x400 MR finals

Discus B
LJ B&G
PV B&G
HJ G
Shot G

Day Two
110/100 HH finals
3000 M SC finals
1500 finals
2000 M SC finals
1600 M finals
400 M finals
200 M finals
4x800 MR finals
4x100 MR finals

Shot B
TJ B&G
Discus G
HJ B

In every case the running events go 1A - 2A - 3A. I don't remember if it's girls or boys first when the same event is up for both genders. I want to say girls first, but I don't really know. Small schools first and large schools last--that remains unchanged. Once again the 200/400 double is nearly impossible for a competetive runner and the 1500/SC double for girls is equally unfavorable. More standard combinations remain properly spaced for doubling and tripling.

[The X-Factor]

ah thanks. just great, i got this honor society induction thingy at 8 and im running the 3200 which is second to last. Any chance itll be done by 7, 730ish?

[xorunner287ox]

section 8 site says the meets should last 4 hours and 15 min each day...if they start at 4:30 then the 2 mile prob races around 8

[PeterQuince]

The county meet runs more or less on-time. It's not like divisions that fly by or Knight-Time that never ends.

It's really frustrating to have conflicts with meets (having had to miss some important invitationals for important things and miss important things for important championship races).

Congrats, though, on your honor society induction. Even if you don't get to take part in the ceremony you are still now a member of whatever society that's inducting you. If you are not a senior you can always play a part in the ceremony/reception/whatever next year, unless there is a strict attendance requirement. But those are only my thoughts. If your time is good enough for state quals and you're not gunning for a team title, you could always run the 800 (if you would qualify) and then be more fresh for the steeple or 1600 or 4x8 on Wednesday. [Edit: if your 3200 mark is good enough to qualify you for state quals, you can always look to have a good race there and run another event at counties; if you still need to drop your time before the SQ meet than that point is moot]. Best of luck whatever you do.

Sitting in Rhode Island, I am not the best person to judge, but my guess is that there is no way for you to both run the 3200 and be at you high school by 8 PM, even if your high school was across the street from Mitchel Field.

[500 miles to freedom]

kieran wallis came to our soccer game on saturday with a severely busted up ankle.......it was all tapped up and he didnt play. he said he was gunna try and run at countys but didnt think hed be able to.

what about mepham? their throwign and hurdleing teams are coming along real well it looks like

[RushyT]

Tomorrow!

[sirtrackalot]

crazy stuff on day one... jfk looks like they are folding as the garden city girls are rolling..that kornblau girl was flying today

[PeterQuince]

Any results of note for the fans still at school?

[Mike]

Just to put this out there, the nutcase dressed as a jedi is not from Lynbrook :(

[RushyT]

hhaha that was the highlight of my LIFE. What school was he from then???

[Impavidus]

Where was Rose Kennedy all season?

[Mike]

Okay, Okay, I'll admit it. He is from Lynbrook. It's Kevin Flatley. He had the whole costume and everything. Even as I am writing this in english class, he is sitting right next to me with his costume on and lightsaber in hand. :eek:

[RushyT]

Where was Rose Kennedy all season?

She plays lacrosse in the spring :(

[RunningwithBroncos]

Okay, Okay, I'll admit it. He is from Lynbrook. It's Kevin Flatley. He had the whole costume and everything. Even as I am writing this in english class, he is sitting right next to me with his costume on and lightsaber in hand. :eek:

my hero... :D