brown @ penns

[reyp]

shaquan splits 45.** on kennedy 4by400. Kennedy won their heat running 1 3:17.85 just beating out Seton hall prep(3:17.88.

[king99]

who's split is that? I am calling split doctors right now?

Amazing

[reyp]

lol its what i heard from dwacox.

[king99]

45.9 from official split taker at Penn the one that would go in the books

[reyp]

how far in the books? do you know?

[runinstripes]

Kinger, where are you finding results and official splits...are they online?

[Scotty]

all the results have been up since last night

www.thepennrelays.com

[king99]

Got official split from guy that split PK and Brown an hour ago almost..

[Joe Lanzalotto]

who's split is that? I am calling split doctors right now?

Amazing

Wait, what's wrong with the split? He said 45.XX, you said 45.9. Isn't that the same thing?

BTW, I know it's a split and "only" barely under 46, but I still say he has a shot at 45.XX from scratch this year.

[king99]

Joe? Nothing is wrong..I just went for verification , since I know it exists . as guys keep official splits on these things and for teams..

Runinstripes/ I know someone there that is helping me stay informed

[Joe Lanzalotto]

Joe? Nothing is wrong..I just went for verification , since I know it exists . as guys keep official splits on these things and for teams..

Runinstripes/ I know someone there that is helping me stay informed

I thought you were saying something was wrong when you called for the split doctor.

[king99]

Nope.just wanted to make sure it was not a fan with a quick clicker..thats all..

[MaroonNews]

What was the deal with the JFK "DNS" for the 4x400 finals?

[Kniteryder]

I think Shaq officially got ALL THE COLLEGES looking at him now!!!

45.9 AMAZING and its only end of April!! :eek:

[dwacox]

What was the deal with the JFK "DNS" for the 4x400 finals?
private team decision

[king99]

WHAT??? You qualify for Champ of America Final and then decide NOT to run?someone got sent home that could have been in.

[78Champ]

private team decision

Wow!!!! Seem to be alot of "team decisions" that do not conform to the norm.

Choosing not to compete in a Championship of America just is not right. Unless there was injury, illness or disciplanary reasons I just don't understand it.

JW

[Kniteryder]

WHAT??? You qualify for Champ of America Final and then decide NOT to run?someone got sent home that could have been in.


I actually agree with u here as that could have been some teams Penn experience for lifetime!! :rolleyes:

[dwacox]

WHAT??? You qualify for Champ of America Final and then decide NOT to run?someone got sent home that could have been in.

Which is why you report the scratch to the clerk a few hours before the final at which it is their responsibility to notify the next team that Qualifies

[king99]

Dwayne,without being defensive..you cannot blame us if we don;t know why?

None of us would find this acceptable..nor do I think anyone cares what we think..!! :D

[king99]

Dwayne,without being defensive..you cannot blame us if we don;t know why?

None of us would find this acceptable..nor do I think anyone cares what we think..!! :D

Short of an inury and NO sub..I cannot possibly fathom what would transpire from heats to final that would predicate a scracth from COA

[tach44444]

Short of an inury and NO sub..I cannot possibly fathom what would transpire from heats to final that would predicate a scracth from COA

yea, wat could the reason possibly be? i'm thinking injury

[king99]

If it was an injury ..I am sure dwayne would have just said that..it must be something else?

[Naimo]

Rumor has it he was taken to the hospital for dehydration like symptoms.

[Joe Lanzalotto]

Rumor has it he was taken to the hospital for dehydration like symptoms.

Who he? Dwayne?

Seriously, an injury or something like dehydration is not a "private team decision".

All you are doing is fueling speculation here, Dwayne, but it's your call!

[tach44444]

Who he? Dwayne?

Seriously, an injury or something like dehydration is not a "private team decision".

All you are doing is fueling speculation here, Dwayne, but it's your call!

between the many people on this board with all the connections they have, i find it hard for this not to get out. if it is seriously something private, and not supposed to get out, okay, i'm sure that will be respected, but if its something stupid or small, all i can say to that is be like a 10 year old girl a squeel the news :D :D

[78Champ]

between the many people on this board with all the connections they have, i find it hard for this not to get out. if it is seriously something private, and not supposed to get out, okay, i'm sure that will be respected, but if its something stupid or small, all i can say to that is be like a 10 year old girl a squeel the news :D :D

Dwayne has put this in the vault. (Seinfeld reference)

JW

[Reuben Frank]

rumor on press row was that Brown transferred to CBA before the Championship of America race

[tach44444]

rumor on press row was that Brown transferred to CBA before the Championship of America race

haha, i believe it

[jersey_guy]

rumor on press row was that Brown transferred to CBA before the Championship of America race

Actually he turned pro.

[GeorgieTheK]

45.9 from official split taker at Penn the one that would go in the books


does this mean we should stop hoping for brown to move up to the 800? how many h.s. runners have split sub 46 @ penn?

[78Champ]

does this mean we should stop hoping for brown to move up to the 800? how many h.s. runners have split sub 46 @ penn?

Actually, since he can run a faster 400 than the world record holder, he should move up to the 1500m. Of course, he should wait until after he dominates NJ XC next fall.

JW

[tach44444]

Actually, since he can run a faster 400 than the world record holder, he should move up to the 1500m. Of course, he should wait until after he dominates NJ XC next fall.

JW

didn't u hear jersey guy?! ...brown went pro.

[reyp]

Kennedy gives all it has

Sunday, May 1, 2005

By PAUL SCHWARTZ
STAFF WRITER



PHILADELPHIA - While the Penn Relays Championship of America 1,600-meter final was being run before 44,612 screaming fans at Franklin Field, Kennedy's relay team was halfway back to Paterson.

But it didn't have to be.


Anchored by Shaquan Brown's breathtaking 45.9-second split five hours earlier, Kennedy had come from 30 meters behind to win its qualifying heat in 3:17.85 and earn a spot as the fifth seed in the eight-team final. But coach Ken Samra decided his Knights had made their supreme effort in running the trial and scratched from the final, won by Wolmer's Boys of Jamaica in 3:12.07.

"I didn't think we were mentally ready to run another race of that quality," said Samra, whose team still brought home a smaller Penn Relays plaque for winning its heat over Kingston College of Jamaica and Seton Hall Prep, the fifth- and seventh-place finishers in the final. "They ran the best they could run [in the] morning and they were all a little tired and beat up. I didn't want to take the chance of hurting somebody."

Brown was the runner who turned on the crowd with the best leg of the day, the fastest ever by a New Jersey runner at Penn and a time bettered by just seven high school runners in the 111-year history of the meet. But his three teammates also produced sensational efforts.

Leadoff leg Ryan Jordan, a junior, got out quickly from the outside starting position and survived a hard bump from the leadoff runner from Archbishop Carroll (Washington) in the final stretch to run 51.1, slower than his best, but keeping the Knights in sixth and within hailing distance of the leaders.

Deron Doles, the only senior on the team, did his job, running a personal-best 50.2 to keep the Knights in sixth, within 30 meters of the lead.

And as he had at the Group 4 State relays, junior Charles Mills, perceived as the weakest leg on the relay, stepped up with a big personal best, running 50.7 to pick up two places and put Brown in position for his crowd-pleasing finish.

"I had been holding a competition for the three spots to run with Shaquan all spring," said Samra. "Ryan was an easy choice and Deron stepped up with a 50.8 in a dual last week, but it was close between Charles and [junior] Quadeer Wilson for the last spot. We thought he could run in the high 51s, but he did even more."

"I was running for my mother, my team and my god," said Mills. "I couldn't let them down."

When Brown got the baton, the crowd was watching the battle up front between Kingston College and Seton Hall and took little notice of the speedy 6-foot-5 Brown. But he quickly got past Piscataway and pulled into third on the first turn. As he began to unfurl his long legs and get moving on the backstretch, the crowd picked up and Brown started to close the gap on the top two runners, still comfortably ahead.

As he hit the final turn, the crowd reacted to Seton Hall passing Kingston. But Brown kept coming, catching Kingston 10 meters before the finish and flying across .03 seconds ahead of Seton Hall.

"I knew I had a chance because I could see that the Kingston guy was getting tired and I thought I could get him and the Seton Hall guy, too," said Brown, who admitted to still being shaky nearly four hours later. "I felt nearly as bad [after the race] as when I set the national record [in the 600] indoors, but at least this time I didn't puke."

[78Champ]

6-foot-5???

JW

[78Champ]

didn't u hear jersey guy?! ...brown went pro.

So did Galen Rupp, but he is now running in college.

JW

[reyp]

6-foot-5???

JW
should be more like 6-foot-2 or 6-foot-3

[dwacox]

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Brown splits 45.9 in trials of 4x400
Sunday, May 01, 2005
BY JIM LAMBERT
For the Star-Ledger
PHILADELPHIA -- Shaquan Brown guaranteed last week that he was going to split under 46.0 in the 400 meters very soon.

The Paterson Kennedy junior backed up his words on the grandest of stages when he turned in one of the state's greatest performances in the 4x400 relay as the 111th Penn Relays concluded in a steady rainfall yesterday at Franklin Field.
But it didn't come without a price.

Brown, grabbing the baton in fourth place and 30 meters off the lead to run his anchor leg in the 4x400 trials, sent the crowd of 44,612 into a frenzy when he put together a blistering 45.9 to pull out a dramatic victory in 3:17.85. Brown caught Seton Hall Prep's Chuck Curry right before the finish line, leaving the West Orange school second in 3:17.88.

Brown's 45.9, the quickest of the day, is the fastest ever at the Penn Relays for a New Jersey high school runner and is tied for No. 10 all-time on the Penn Relays high school list. Brown is just the fifth New Jersey runner to split under 46.0 in the 400 at any meet.

While Brown's 45.9 helped Paterson Kennedy's qualify for the Championship of America race for the first time ever, it also left Brown dehydrated. As a result, Paterson Kennedy coach Ken Samra decided to scratch from the Championship of America race.

"I felt a little shaky," said Brown, the 400 winner at the NJSIAA Meet of Champions this past winter. "The 45.9 took a lot out of me."

Brown, who set a national indoor record of 1:17.9 in the 600-meter run in February, said he didn't feel like he needed to prove anything to anyone.

"I just wanted to prove to myself that I could go under 46," said Brown, whose best open 400 time is 47.67. "I think the competition and the atmosphere that comes with the Penn Relays brought it out in me."

Brown's 45.9 broke the New Jersey Penn Relays 400 split record of 46.0 set by Reuben McCoy last year when he anchored Winslow to the Championship of America title. McCoy is now a freshman at Auburn.

Brown joined U.S. Olympians Dennis Mitchell of Edgewood (45.4 in 1984) and Renaldo Nehemiah of Scotch Plains-Fanwood (45.9 in 1977) and All-Americas Ray Williams of Scotch Plains-Fanwood (45.8 in 2002) and Lance Wigfall of East Orange Campus (45.8 in 2003) in the New Jersey sub-46.0 club.

"It means a lot to me," Brown said. "It's been a goal of mine for a long time and now I hope to keep dropping my times as low as I can."

While Brown's historic split was the story of the 4x400 trials, he wasn't the only New Jersey runner to sparkle in that event.

Bryant McCombs, a junior at Old Bridge, had the third-fastest high school split of the trials with a 47.3, and Kevin Payton of Camden, who is headed to Minnesota on a basketball scholarship, had a 48.1, the ninth-fastest of the trials. Old Bridge failed to advance. Camden won the Philadelphia Area final.

[Joe Lanzalotto]

Dwayne, are you saying that the 400 dehydrated him?

[dwacox]

Dwayne, are you saying that the 400 dehydrated him?
I don't believe I have said anything

[Joe Lanzalotto]

I don't believe I have said anything

That's right, you haven't. Nor implied anything either.

[king99]

I have also kept quiet on this: But since it is not my style here goes.

I cannot see scratching COA race ever , because someone MAY not feel well. This guy has run as many as 3-4 races in a 3-4 hour period, there was 5 hours to final.

Pulled muscles? Real injury? Abvsoultely even though uou should still run alternate.

Dehydration? Off a 400? Not sure I get this.

Unless I am misreading...neither does dwayne? Joe?

[king99]

I guess my point is, dwayne who is closest to this out of all of us, could have just as easily divulged this info if it is accurate.

Not sure I get or understand the unwillingness to share , what at least they thougt to be a legit concern.

Dwayne, I am not getting on you here at all, just something doesn;t seem what it appears?

[78Champ]

I guess my point is, dwayne who is closest to this out of all of us, could have just as easily divulged this info if it is accurate.

Not sure I get or understand the unwillingness to share , what at least they thougt to be a legit concern.

Dwayne, I am not getting on you here at all, just something doesn;t seem what it appears?

It is exactly as the article says. Nothing more to it from what I heard.

JW

[king99]

Okay then..I was not sure why we got back into this..so be it.

[qua973]

45.9 from official split taker at Penn the one that would go in the books
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If he ran a 49.9 then the splits don't add up. He must have ran faster than that 45.9 or the other guys must have ran faster. :)

[king99]

What? what the heck is that in reference to? Give up the pipe..it is bad for ya..

[runinstripes]

Umm how exactly does one become dehydrated in 45.9 secs on a very cool, rainy day?

[runinstripes]

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If he ran a 49.9 then the splits don't add up. He must have ran faster than that 45.9 or the other guys must have ran faster. :)

Somebody is getting through HS by being an athlete...No child left behind?

[tach44444]

Somebody is getting through HS by being an athlete...No child left behind?

i doubt that. its been written that brown is a good student, and is artistic, as im sure u've all read.

try this one out....

between 1991 and 1995 chris halupka took all general, easy courses in HS, never doing his homework, cutting class left and right, and barely passed through HS win a GPA in the neighborhood of 71. He got a full ACADEMIC scholarship to Princeton all becasue he was a parade all america soccer player and ended up being ivy league frosh of the year. that was 10 years ago, and it seems to me this is less the case of people getting along due to athletic ability, especially out side of football... or am i just blinded by a bunch of BS people feed the media?

[78Champ]

i doubt that. its been written that brown is a good student...

This isn't Brown posting. See my post in the "Ever heard of" thread.

JW