05 jumps

[Mansfield]

tell of your jumping expierences in 2005...

ive been pr'ing every meet in triple jump so far, so i hope it keep up this moday

[bravesfanatic4]

what's your current PR?

[Mansfield]

42'3

[aidan]

hey.. u took my thread over..


anyways.. i pr'd yesterday.. 40'8" in the triple.. as well as 19'4" in the lj.. i dislocated my toe in my first triple jump though.. so now im layed up for a few days.. *sigh*

[Ecliptica]

"Mansfield" has been jumping amazingly this year.

I, on the other hand, haven't even come close to hitting my worst jump of the indoor season, which was 19'4" (finished with a 20'3" PR at DIII relays). My best so far outdoors this season is 18'2.5"; the first meet I toe-fouled a couple over 20, but I haven't even been close to my mark, I suck.

I think I might be the only 20 foot long jumper to not be able to go 40 in the triple. . .only jumped it once this year and hit 38'7".

[aidan]

lol, ecliptica, i know the feeling.. yesterday, i toe-fouled what looked to be about a 20 foot jump.. something i have yet to accomplish.. but plenty of season to go.. i remember soph year.. i was jumping like high 17-low 18.. and then i went down 2 meets, jumping 15 and 16 feet, lol.. so dont worry about the 18 ft jumps.. u'll have a breakout meet soon enough, if ur anything like me

[Ecliptica]

Another horrible meet, and my hamstring, which kept me out of the postseason indoors, is acting up again. 18'6.5" and 38'1".

"Mansfield" jumped a stellar 41'10" into a fairly strong headwind.

[Suspect]

yay!. i pr'd today on high jump at 5'8... but ya, i suck at long jump

[skifree]

I triple jumped 44'5" in winter without any training at all. Currently this spring, i have been consistantly in the 43's. I hope to go over 45 when my legs are fresh. My long jump has been decent, i did 20'3" on saturday. But today in a duel meet, i lowered my 400ih PR from 60.something to 58.2. Still dont know how i pulled that one off.

[Mansfield]

i pr'd on high jump today at 5'4"! yeah i just started

[mvrunner]

we have a girl on our team who is amazing and can jump like 5'8

[AsthenicAthlete]

I did 4'6 at practice last week. :cool:

[rebeljumper]

you two guys from mansfield are lucky when it comes down to class c's because your hosting the meet. hopefully i'll be able to give you some competition in the triple jump.

[Mansfield]

our tracks good but we arent going to have anywhere to put everyone, we had trouble holding everyone form the hock there last year...what r u jumping now?

[rebeljumper]

right now im in the 41 range but im not a cold weather jumper so once the class relays come around i should be jumping 42-44. plus some of the tracks we have at are just awful.

[Sully 800]

I think I might be the only 20 foot long jumper to not be able to go 40 in the triple. . .only jumped it once this year and hit 38'7".

A kid on my team has hit a bunch of 22+ long jumps, and I believe his best triple is 42'.

Its weird since he's so good at LJ though, because it always throws my perspective way off. I believe he was jumping 21' as a freshman, so whenever I hear about 20+ jumps it seems like nothing because I see it all the time, even though they might indeed be very good jumps. Hopefully when he comes back from injury he'll have some good improvement for this year, maybe even up to the 23'+ range which woudl be pretty nasty

[cowboyjeff05]

im a senior and ive been jumping 21's, im guna try doing an all out triple for like the first time at a meet, what do you think i should expect, the low 30's or mid 30's or sumtin?

i figure if i can hit 13ft and change with each jump it would come out to be around 40ish

btw, what foot do you start the jump with for the first 2 phases your strong, or weak, cause i have heard two diff stories, 1. you start w/ ur good foot, the other, you start w/ the bad 1

[FIRE CHIEF]

The jumpers at my high school always started with their weak foot on TJ.

We have a kid at my old school who is opposite of most of you guys, he can triple 44'5 but can only long 20'3.

[Ecliptica]

right now im in the 41 range but im not a cold weather jumper so once the class relays come around i should be jumping 42-44. plus some of the tracks we have at are just awful.

Butera? You are my dark horse to win states in the triple jump.


No, it won't be fun hosting the meet; Mansfield, while we have an outstanding track and great facilities and everything (arguably one of the best around), we forgot one key feature --> bleachers. The athletes will have a great time running/throwing/jumping, but we could barely fit all the teams there last year holding our league meet, and that was only 9 teams. Say we have 30 or so guys and girls teams, I don't know how the teams are going to fit let alone how any spectators are going to be able to watch the meet.
We'll figure something out, we always do.

[rebeljumper]

yeah i am butera. i think my only chance to win all-states would be if jed carpenter were to get hurt. i didnt even think anybody would know who i was.

[dkirkpatrick]

I did 4'6 at practice last week. :cool:


SWEEEEET!!!!!! :confused:

[skifree]

Thats weird firechief, those are my exact stats in LJ and TJ so far this year. But, i go off my strong foot first.

[FIRE CHIEF]

Yeah, I noticed that too after I posted it, those are his pr's though, I assume you have gone longer. This kid is tall and lanky and not real athletic, he has good form and gets the most out of his size in the TJ but in the long he just can't build up enough speed to go much further than he does.

[Suspect]

Mansfield what grade r u in

[Mansfield]

junior in hs

[Suspect]

junior in hs


ohhhhhh... how tall?

[Mansfield]

i am 6'3"

[Suspect]

oh dang ur tall

[Mansfield]

do you jump suspect? freshman?

[Suspect]

ya i do all lj tj and hj

but high jump is the most important to me

ya im a freshman

[Mansfield]

http://wendel.uctrack.com/

this guy always posted this on the old dyestat..dunno if u were on it then...its got high jump stuff

[Suspect]

my dad went to school with a kid named javier sotomayer when he lived in cuba... dunna if its the same dude tho

[Ecliptica]

World record holder Javier Sotomayer?

[Suspect]

eh he doesnt no if he was the same one but totally could have been and probably is seeing how he was also black and cubas not that big

[Mansfield]

pr in hj at 5'6" today, once i have form i think ill be at least over 5'10"...hopefully
41'7 in the triple today, cant wait until the warm waether comes, next meet its supposd to be 70-80 out :D

[rebeljumper]

anyone else jump into the 25 mph head winds today?

[Ecliptica]

Eh, it was more of a crosswind during the long jump, but I got to run a 100 into the 25 mph headwind. 11.8, take that bitches.

[Mansfield]

anyone else jump into the 25 mph head winds today?
the winds werent too bad during triple...they really sucked during the 400

[Suspect]

the winds got pretty bad for us during high and the end of long... but its cool still got another pr in both

[cowboyjeff05]

yesterday at practice i jumped 36'9 in the tj, w/ a 4 step run, on a cinder runway, what can i expect to do with a fool approach and on a rubber runway?

[aidan]

45' at least

[cowboyjeff05]

cool, i hope so, i just hope my nees can take it lol

[aidan]

u know im kidding, right?

seriously.. when i do like a 3 step (3 left foot steps, so 6 steps total) and jump from like a 28' girls board to warm up a lil after i do my runthroughs.. i usually jump like 33'ish..

so.. my pr is just south of 41' right now, so take that at what its worth, if anything

[Mansfield]

in triple jump, what percent do you guys run at during your approach? ive been going around like 95%ish which i guess is bad...i heard someone today in practice say about 80%

[rebeljumper]

i usually run 90% down the runway but recently i noticed that i wasnt getting enough momentum carried through to the final phase. so i think im going as close to 100% for now on.

[cowboyjeff05]

u know im kidding, right?

seriously.. when i do like a 3 step (3 left foot steps, so 6 steps total) and jump from like a 28' girls board to warm up a lil after i do my runthroughs.. i usually jump like 33'ish..

so.. my pr is just south of 41' right now, so take that at what its worth, if anything


oic but i was doing this stuff after 2900m sprint workout, and it was on a uneven tar runway(soph yr. tried it, but wised my knee not to bad tho, but i decided to ty again)


i wanna gt out to about 43-44,

ill keep you guys posted on how it goes, i have a meet on monday!!!

[cowboyjeff05]

o btw, do u mean you jump 28in warmups and about 33ish during compition?

[aidan]

no.. when i do a 3 step lil pop up... from a 28' board.. adn i go like 33'.. on the pop up/warm up jumps.. im between 40-41' right now in meets

ps.. i fricken book it down the runway.. u really want to be goin 100%.. just.. 100% in TOTAL control.. if ur out of control at all on takeoff.. ur screwed.. so.. as fast as u possibly can while staying in total control of all ur limbs is the way to go

[Mansfield]

i fricken book it down the runway.. u really want to be goin 100%.. just.. 100% in TOTAL control.. if ur out of control at all on takeoff.. ur screwed.. so.. as fast as u possibly can while staying in total control of all ur limbs is the way to go
Haha, this is the best advice I have received on dyestat...thanks, that's a good way to look at it.

[cowboyjeff05]

no.. when i do a 3 step lil pop up... from a 28' board.. adn i go like 33'.. on the pop up/warm up jumps.. im between 40-41' right now in meets

ps.. i fricken book it down the runway.. u really want to be goin 100%.. just.. 100% in TOTAL control.. if ur out of control at all on takeoff.. ur screwed.. so.. as fast as u possibly can while staying in total control of all ur limbs is the way to go


ya i understand why u wouldnt go 100%, bc f you go 8%, you will only have an 80% jump lol

by the way do you think i can do 45 or were you joking like i interpretded it w/ ur second post?

[Mansfield]

if u go an all out sprint sometimes u lose control of the jump and u actually dont jump as far...

[cowboyjeff05]

i would say 90% not 80 tho

[skifree]

go 95%, as fast as you can while still being in control. Whoever said go 80% has no idea what they are talking about.

[aidan]

ya i understand why u wouldnt go 100%, bc f you go 8%, you will only have an 80% jump lol

by the way do you think i can do 45 or were you joking like i interpretded it w/ ur second post?



lol.. i have no idea.. i was just kiddin.. but im sure u'll be over 40' at least pretty easy, and then you can go from there.. making one adjustment in triple jump, multiplied by three phases.. can lead to a 2 or 3 foot pr ez.. something that does not happen in long jump, which makes triple very cool



ps - meet today.. my dislocated toe of one week didnt hold up too hot.. i had trouble accelerating, although once i got up to speed i felt ok.. but this messed up my steps.. leading me to foul by a few inches on 2 slightly under 20' jumps.. which, counting the distance from fouling.. were in relaity about 19'6".. since it was a lj relay, i did a safety jump.. but made it too safe.. and jumped from like a foot behind the board, really tentative.. the result.. 18'2"

triple jump.. i had three jumps over 40'.. but my toe was still messin with me, keepin me from getting good speed.. 40' 5.5" was my best.. im excited though for when my toe heals.. 42' and 20' are right there for the taking :)

[soul126@aol.com]

im a freshman and my pr is 34'7" after like not much time... ive been breaking my prs every meet by 2 feet almost in each... do u think it would be possible to reash 37

[Mansfield]

im a freshman and my pr is 34'7" after like not much time... ive been breaking my prs every meet by 2 feet almost in each... do u think it would be possible to reash 37
i think i jumped like 35 feet as a freshman and now im jumping over 37 so yes...if u mean just in this season i say its possible by even slight changes in form

[whatisitcousin]

I jumped 46'1 on saturday and it was my PR but I dragged my foot in the sand
so it was really a high 47 my last years PR was 41'6 this year I Pr a foot a week
In long jump I jumped 21.75 before that my PR was 20'2 as a junior but I was stuckk in the high 19's until this year but only cause a teamate that I'm more athletic then beat me or I'd still be stuck in the 19's as a senior

[whatisitcousin]

sorry but I don't see how people could jump 34 or 35 every(except females)and with my improvements you can obviously see you can improve from 34 to 37 with a good coach (no one is that unathletic you just have bad form)
to get further ride out your phases and get your knee high on your 2nd phases also do not jump to high on your first these are the most common problems and are easily fixed by thinking and not hard work good luck

[cowboyjeff05]

sorry but I don't see how people could jump 34 or 35 every(except females)and with my improvements you can obviously see you can improve from 34 to 37 with a good coach (no one is that unathletic you just have bad form)
to get further ride out your phases and get your knee high on your 2nd phases also do not jump to high on your first these are the most common problems and are easily fixed by thinking and not hard work good luck


have you ever heard of freshman that do track that are 5'3 and just cant get enough height to do a 37, so dont make fun of them

[rebeljumper]

coaching really doesnt matter in some cases. i went from 32' my freshman year to 42' as of now in my senior year and i basically tought myself everything. it's all a matter of wanting it and just working hard. but you are right that a correction in form can go a long way.

[whatisitcousin]

coaching is important cause if you had a goo coach you would probably jump 44's
if you don't have a good coach and you study how to do your event then you would be coaching yourself
Therefore coaching is important
for myself Freshman year without a coach I jumped 39'11".5 sophomre year year 40'9 junior year 41'6
and for long jump
fresh 19'7
soph 19'5
jun 20'2
now I jump 21on a bad jump but I haven't jmped a good jump yet

[Mansfield]

it can also be about motivation, freshman year i really didnt care about track but when i started getting into it tried harder. gonna try more arm and leg swinging action today, hopefully with the good weather ill see some improvement

[aidan]

update on my performaces to date.. in chase of 44' and 20'

jumped 41', a foot off the board, with a horrible landing
jumped 18'8" after fouling on jumps that appeared/felt better
tuesday duel meet

anyways.. ive fouled on a good number of 19'+ jumps this season by a toe or less.. hopefully this weekend ill get one in, as well as a 42' jump i know im capable of :)

goals for weekend:

42'
19'6"

howabout the rest of you?

[cowboyjeff05]

over 20'5
nd over 37'9(its my 2nd meet doing it)

[Mansfield]

i dont know how good the pit is at the meet i have tomorrow, i think its asphalt but i guess ill shoot for 42'6" for tomorrow, i think im gonna do high jump too so 5'10"

[cowboyjeff05]

the track meet i had on monday, was a rubber runway, but was missing about a 25ft piece in the middle, so they put like a 3 inch cover over it. It screwed up my steps so much

[Ecliptica]

i dont know how good the pit is at the meet i have tomorrow, i think its asphalt but i guess ill shoot for 42'6" for tomorrow, i think im gonna do high jump too so 5'10"


It is asphalt. Can't wear spikes on it. I'll see if I can even hit 36 tomorrow, I remember Terry, who was a 44'10" triple jumper, had a PR of like 38' on that track.

[Mansfield]

crap, if terry did 38 my goal is now like 37

[aidan]

It is asphalt. Can't wear spikes on it. I'll see if I can even hit 36 tomorrow, I remember Terry, who was a 44'10" triple jumper, had a PR of like 38' on that track.


asphalt has to be the worst suface to triple jump on.. EVER... my shin splints would never hold up.. id have to amputate from the knee down after a meet there, from the sounds of it

[Mansfield]

well that track was worse than i thought, i triple jumped 38'7"

[Ecliptica]

I went 37'2" on the asphalt, breaking the goal I set there of 36. My first phase felt so good every time then I hit the ground so damn hard and it like sent a shock through my leg and up through the groin. I talked to Mansfield about it earlier, it was the weirdest sensation.
So if we add three and a half to that jump. . .Mansfield jumps what he has been all year at 42'ish and I'm around 40'8", I think that's a pretty good conversion.

[aidan]

lol.. triple jump asphalt to rubber conversions.. gotto love it.. let the good times (distances) roll

[not2quick]

i'm in polevault and today is my first meet i'm hoping to get 9' b/c that is starting height
i got it twice in practice yesterday!!!

[rebeljumper]

i finally broke 20 ft in the long jump today, going 20'10". i also did 41'3" in triple but it was rushed right after the 200.

new goals: LJ- 21'5" TJ-still 45'

[Mansfield]

thats nice to finally break 20 by 10 inches...

[Mansfield]

bad day for me today, my first jump was 38'6, but i managed to get up to 40'7"...ecliptica had a nice day today, class c tjr if ours

[Ecliptica]

bad day for me today, my first jump was 38'6, but i managed to get up to 40'7"

You just gotta heal, you're all set for the post-season if your ankle holds up.

...ecliptica had a nice day today, class c tjr is ours

It's just about setting those little goals, I set my goal at 40'2" for today's meet.

PR --> 39'10.5"
Today --> 40'11"

So far this year my progression was 37'11.25", 38'1", 39'10.5", 40'11". I keep improving at this rate and I'll be going 44' at Class :p

[rebeljumper]

jumped 40'6" on one of those horrific asphalt tracks. add that 3 and half you were talking about and i should be at 44'

[Mansfield]

the question is, did it have a full runway?

[Ecliptica]

jumped 40'6" on one of those horrific asphalt tracks. add that 3 and half you were talking about and i should be at 44'


Damn straight!! 44+!

Is there anyone else in Class C to worry about? Is that Fenwick kid going LJ or TJ. . .he beat me indoors in the LJ and jumped like 21'6.5", but I heard Courtney (from Milton) jumped 23'11", so he may reconsider. I bet everyone triple jumps at class this year.

[rebeljumper]

ya it was bonelli from fenwick, he tripled last year so i would expect him to do it again. i saw courtney jump the 23'11" and on his first jump he fouled by 4-5 inches and was over 24'. the more people in triple at class c's the better the competition. and the runway i ran on i had to shorten my steps cause it was so bad.

[Mansfield]

the runway i ran on i had to shorten my steps cause it was so bad.
damn...I hate when the runways are short...over 40 on shortened steps is nice

[rebeljumper]

ya i think for triple i normally measure out around 90 something feet but i had shorten it out to 71. i cannot wait till class c's.

[Mansfield]

does walpole have a triple relay for class c relays?

[rebeljumper]

nope , our coaches did not sign us up. they thought our meet that we had today was supposed to be tomorrow and didnt want us to run 2 days in a row. so i'm pretty mad about that. the next 2 guys that triple on our team do 37's so i dont think we would do that well. are you going to the coaches invite on the 14th?

[Mansfield]

I assume so, bad memories last year of that, I fouled all 3 jumps...hopefully I wont do that again.
edit 2 37s plus you would most likely grab at least a 3rd, probably 2nd, masnfield won least year i believe with something near 115, and the next closest was 10x.

[Mansfield]

Over the course of the season, triple jump has hurt my heel because I have been landing on it a lot...the heel on my shoe is cushioned well...any other triple jumpers feel this, any way to prevent this. I mean I can live with it it doesnt hurt bad but its a pain that I wouldnt mind having it go away.

[rebeljumper]

i used to have that problem pretty bad, sometimes to the point where i wouldnt take my final jumps. the one thing that helped me get over this was bounding because it helps you stay on your toes and not on your heels.

[Mansfield]

ok thanks...class c's is only 26 days away

[Mansfield]

i told myself not to jump today, but i gave in and decided to just do some 3 step approaches to work on form...when i jumped 37'11 i decided to try a 6 step approach and only improved 9 inches...i think this means i need to work on controlling my approach more and keeping good sprinting form...i now have 2 weeks until my league championship to 1)improve my approach and 2)cycle through on my first phase...congrats to 2 people; the freshman on the other team who jumped 39'4" and also to my sophmore teamate who qualified with a 2 foot pr to jump 39'2"

[Ecliptica]

My coach said to go 80%, but slowing down screwed up my approach, so I fouled twice. On my third jump, I swear to god on my first phase I was 7 feet in the air - I cycled through TWICE (Mansfield can confirm this). Either way, I finished with a 39'3", good enough for second place, so I'll take what I can at this point with the way my hamstring is.

[rebeljumper]

it seems like everyone is getting hurt now

[Mansfield]

dont worry, 4 weeks to heal

[YoungCub]

think jumping in JSC's will wreck my heel even with heel protectors in the spike?

[Suspect]

last thursday at Rancho Verde i went 100% on tj and during the second phase my right knee crippled under me and i flew into the pit face first... good times

[dkirkpatrick]

last thursday at Rancho Verde i went 100% on tj and during the second phase my right knee crippled under me and i flew into the pit face first... good times

OUCH! :(

[LAXCoach]

the one thing that helped me get over this was bounding because it helps you stay on your toes and not on your heels.

ugh, this is terrible advice. One of the biggest things I try to get my athletes out of doing is being on their toes in the TJ. Likewise you don't want to be on your heel either. The optimal landing position for the TJ is one in which you're clawing back with your foot with your leg directly under you. If you are on your toes throughout the three phases of your TJ you're causing yourself to sink on each phase and thus have too much ground time. If you are on your heel you will be blocking through each phase and reducing your horizontal velocity. Picture the foot action of claw drills, this is how you want it to be in the TJ.

[rebeljumper]

of course i wouldnt know, its not like i have a jumping coach anyway.

[LAXCoach]

of course i wouldnt know, its not like i have a jumping coach anyway.

ouch, I'm sorry. I know the feeling. I went through high school without ever having a real coach at my high school. Luckily I had the benefit of working with one of the best jump coaches around here at the high school level (he coached Kenny Harrison while he was in high school to give you and idea of his experience) in the winter and summer with a track club I was on. Learned almost everything I know about jumps from him.

My advice is read up as much about the event as you can. Try to stick to reliable sources such as established track journals and independent articles written by established jump coaches. If you can find someone who knows what they're talking about to watch your jumps, this will be greatly beneficial in finding spots for improvement with your form.

[Mansfield]

tell more...do you know of any good websites for tj?

[aidan]

yeah.. everyone is hurt right now.. but anyways.. just had county meet this past weekend.. came in third in lj with a 19'11.5" jump.. almost a foot pr :P

prelims:

19'2" 19'11.5" xxx

finals

17'8" ;P 18'10" xxx


i was so high off of pr'ing.. that i did not rewarm up for finals.. my steps were really off.. and i was stiff as hell (my back has been botherin me for a while..)

anyways.. w00t

[LAXCoach]

tell more...do you know of any good websites for tj?

Well I looked around online and many of the sites I used to read on aren't around anymore. This is kinda long, but here's a very basic essay I wrote on Triple Jump form for a project a few years ago. If I had it to do over again, there's a few areas I'd probably clarify a little more, but enjoy, and feel free to ask if you have any questions, or point out any blatant errors I may have made and not edited out.

Triple Jump Basics
The Triple Jump is one of the most technical and athletic events in Track & Field. It combines speed, power, balance, flexibility, agility, and precision technique into a single event. To be successful an athlete must work hard to reach their maximum potential in all these areas. To an outside observer the triple jump appears to be similar to the hopping and skipping one learns as a child on the playground. However, it is truly a very technical event, which the best athletes will make appear simple and smooth.

Phases of the Triple Jump
When looking at the triple jump it can be broken down into the phases of the approach run, hop, skip, and jump. The hop skip and jump can as well be broken down into their arm and leg actions. The correct form for triple jump is something that is learned over time and is best achieved by learning it in phases. What this means is that the form of a beginning jumper will and should be very different from that of the most advanced jumpers. This is because at the beginner level many jumpers are not yet capable of performing an advanced technique and must gradually work towards it.

Approach Run
Speed is one of the greatest determining factors as to how far an athlete will jump. The approach run should be designed so that an athlete will be near top speed as they approach the board allowing them to accelerate through the board and hit top speed as they enter into their first phase, which will lead to the greatest results in triple jump. Unlike the long jump, little importance is placed on the penultimate step in triple jump. The greatest importance lies in accelerating through the board, and being able to run off of the board. With all levels of triple jump the athlete should develop a consistent approach run which concentrates on accelerating through the board and running off the board before they are allowed to move on to the development of form. Often this is done by starting them out with a shorter approach such as a 5 to 6 step approach, and then as they develop moving them into a 8 to 10 step approach with an emphasis on building up speed as they come down the runway.

The Beginning Triple Jumper
The beginning triple jumper is someone who is just learning how to triple jump, and is often a novice in the sport of track and field. Most of the time these athletes will not have developed the physical or technical abilities to use an advanced technique of triple jump. With these athletes, instead of forcing them to take on the whole precise form of triple jump, a coach should have them concentrate on the basic elements of form.

Beginning Form
There are key areas in a Beginners form that they should concentrate on. At first an athlete will be tempted to make the first phase similar to a long jump. Instead a beginning triple jumper should concentrate on two things in their first phase; cycling the jumping leg through rather than swinging it, and having the ground contact off of the first phase be with the jumping leg underneath them so that maximum power can be exerted into the second phase. Also, at the beginning level it is acceptable for a jumper to use either a single armed or double armed swim motion. The key areas in the second phase are to make sure that the jumper drives their free leg to parallel and again makes ground contact with their leg underneath them. The arm motion for this is recommended to be a double arm drive, however some athletes will need time to get used to this and will start with a single arm motion. The third phase for a beginner is generally very similar to a long jump, in that they will cycle their arms and go in to a hang technique. While this is acceptable for a beginner it will not produce the best results. Most beginners will simply use this form because it is the most comfortable and natural finish, but as they move into a more advanced technique they will need to improve the form of their third phase to the form discussed in the more advanced techniques.

Russian Method (Power Jumpers)
The Russian Method is a triple jump technique designed for jumpers who rely on their power rather than their speed to produce the greatest distances in jumps. This technique is generally used by advanced power jumpers, or as a transitional technique for speed jumpers between their beginning form and when they are eventually able to learn the Polish Flat Method. This technique was most prevalent in the 50's when the Soviets dominated the event. However, the Polish Flat Method is much more common today.

Russian Method Form
While this Method is designed for power jumpers, the approach is still key. They must get as much of their speed into the jump as possible. When the jumper is about to enter the first phase they will bring both arms up and jump off of the board with a double armed swim motion. While this is generally thought of as a detracting quality to a jump, for this method it works to harness power in the first phase of the jump. The foot action landing off the first phase and entering into the second phase should be as flat footed as possible, with the heel striking very slightly in front of the ball of the foot. At this point your arms are both back ready to spring into the second phase. Thrust both arms out in front and drive your non-jumping leg to the front by keeping it high and driving it so that it comes through bent almost completely and then uncoils into the a position in which your thigh of your front leg is parallel to the ground with the bottom half perpendicular, and your back leg has the bottom half parallel to the ground with the thigh perpendicular. As you enter this position swing your arms back in a swim motion so that they are prepared to enter the third phase. Your front leg will kick out and drive through the ground in the same motion as coming off of the first phase (foot slightly in front and heel striking slightly ahead). Now, as you enter into the third phase thrust your arms forward the same as in the second phase, but continue them up to a hang position. Your leg drives off the ground and pushes back into a hang position. Maintain this position and then enter into your landing. For your landing drive your legs out in front as far as you can, and lean forward with your body. As you hit the sand with your feet the momentum you have should bring the rest of your body through and allow you to achieve a good finish.

Polish Flat Method (Speed Jumpers)
The Polish Flat Method is the dominant method in elite jumpers today. It is a jump technique designed to harness an athlete's speed and maintain speed throughout the jump in order to create the furthest distances in triple jump. This method is named for Jozef Schmidt. Schmidt was a Polish triple jumper who won gold medals in the 1960 and 1964 olympic games. Schmidt developed this method to help himself use his great speed to jump farther.

Polish Method Form
The approach run is again key to distance in this form. You must achieve a high level of controlled speed to experience the best results using this form. As you enter the first phase of the jump, you continue with a running action driving your non-jumping leg and your opposite arm forward, and your other arm back. Then bring your front arm back in a single-armed swim motion. When you bring it back your hips will be very slightly turned to that side. This creates an effect of having yourself cocked into position to quickly enter the second phase. The form of ground contact is the same as in the Russian Method. The second phase is also very similar. You will thrust your arms forward and bring them back around in a double-armed swim motion. Also, you will drive your legs through in the same manner, and enter them into the same position. The only difference is that you will again have your hips twisted slightly to the other side this time. Again this has the effect of having yourself cocked to quickly enter the third phase. The rest of the jump is the same as the polish method. Drive off the ground and enter into a hang position. Then have a strong landing to finish the jump. The key part of the entire jump is to make sure that you minimalize ground contact. This will allow you to keep your speed up and achieve your best results. This is why you are in a cocked position as you enter the second and third phase because it will help to minimalize your ground contact.

[vinsanity13]

well i got my triple jump shoes and i went 47' 11.5" in practice, thats my new PR in triple, but my best this year in long jump is 23' 4"

[Ecliptica]

That was an excellent essay. It helped a lot, thanks man.

I don't get how you people jump so far in practice, Aidan and I have the same problem; we go like 17 in practice and then 20 at meet. I don't think I've ever been over like 38 in practice in the TJ either.

[Mansfield]

practice triple jump? we havent done that much, i think i remember twice

[Ecliptica]

Okay, good point, I've only "practiced" triple jump maybe six times in the last three years.

[vinsanity13]

the only reason why i tripled wut i did in practice cuz i only did one, it was kinda relax day. We have regionals soon, so everyone is takin it easy, Im trying to get 50' by the end of AAU season in July.

[aidan]

That was an excellent essay. It helped a lot, thanks man.

I don't get how you people jump so far in practice, Aidan and I have the same problem; we go like 17 in practice and then 20 at meet. I don't think I've ever been over like 38 in practice in the TJ either.



my practice pr's:

long jump: 17'5"
triple jump: 37'
high jump: 5'


beat that Ecliptica

[whatisitcousin]

I jumped 47'8 at WCAL prelims a foot behind the board and a elbow in the sand It should have been a 49 something and I still have no college to go to next year

last year I jumped 41's but I finally have a TJ coach

[Mansfield]

whatd the coach fix/how did you improve that much?

[whatisitcousin]

I had no second phase at first
and that is all he emphasized cause thats the hardest part to do
so 1st instead of going down the runway full speed he made me stride
until I could control my self because I had no balance
2nd when we talked about jumping he always told me I jumped too high on the 1st phase
if you had a stone and wanted throw it far you would throw it far you would throw it high and hard but that is long jump
TJ is completly throw it. TJ is more like skipping stones in water low
with those to things combine and me getting the hang of it (quicly because of hurdling I'm a technique guy) I'm able to jump that far
plus my goal is to jump no less then 50 or I failed this season and I truly belive that
i will jump 50
I'm also the hardest worker on the team practicing from 3:10 to 6:30 on average

[Mansfield]

nice, im gonna try some of that thanks

[aidan]

whatd the coach fix/how did you improve that much?


roids, no doubt ;)











just messin :)

[hurdler777]

I jumped 47'8 at WCAL prelims a foot behind the board and a elbow in the sand It should have been a 49 something and I still have no college to go to next year

last year I jumped 41's but I finally have a TJ coach


come to Northeastern, we need a good tripple jumper!

[whatisitcousin]

would I get to play football too

[hurdler777]

I dont know. Are you big? Are you fast? Are you good at football? You have to be pretty good to play D1 Football. Not that Northeastern is anything special, but still, I have no idea if you are D1 football caliber or not.

Also, what is your GPA and Test Scores?

[whatisitcousin]

yea I lead my team in tackles 12 tackles avg. per game
in the hardest league in Nor CAl WCAl like every year 5 out of 8 teams are
top 10 in the bay area
I have a 2.9 with 1000 SAT

[hurdler777]

Well if you are really interested in playing football then you should contact the coaches. Their email addresses are on the athletics website.

To be honest, you might have trouble getting into Northeastern with a 2.9 and 1000 SAT. Especially this late in the process. If you are really looking to find a college for this upcomming fall, you need to act fast. You may find better luck at a larger state school.

[MEGO]

i just started long jumping this year....
im a female and a senior in hs.

my best jump is 16'6''

[Mansfield]

you shoulda started freshman year...

[aidan]

you shoulda started freshman year...


Quoted for the truth

[Myllertime]

i just started track about a month and half ago, and i have never done track before. my first try ever triple jumping, i got 38s, now i jus won the SVC and i'm ranked 1st in the Div2, and ranked 2nd in the Sac Joaquin Section. i just Pr'ed 46'10". and im a jr. so hopefully i'll do good at sections and go to state champs. I still need to work on my form, and do some legs workout. so im getting there. and i Pr'ed 22'3" on long. and 6'4" in high. next year, i'll be in states on all three events for sure. just gotta focus on this only and forget about other sports, because i know that this is it.

[LAXCoach]

A couple of my middle school athletes have been doing quite well lately. Just thought I'd post their #s out of curiousity to how they stack up to jumpers the same age from around the country this year, if any of you happen to know how the jumpers in your area are doing. My best 8th grade boy has hit 37'8.5" in TJ, and my best 8th grade girl has jumped 33' in TJ and 16'8.5" in LJ. I also have a 7th grade boy who has jumped 35'4" in TJ and 17'2.5" in LJ.

[rebeljumper]

anyone here know how to help a groin injury yet still be able to jump well?

[Mansfield]

ignore it :cool:

[rebeljumper]

ya that didnt work too well when i was trying to jump today, looks like next week is gonna suck for me.

[Ecliptica]

No worries, I probably won't be jumping at Class either; 37'8" today, but I popped my hamstring at the end of the 100 (where I ran 11.8; almost a second slower than just a month ago). I'm almost 90% certain I'm done for the season.

[Mansfield]

are there any 40+ jumpers left in class c that arent injured?

[rebeljumper]

well either way it should be a battle with you, drever(Bourne), phelan(Hingham), and me.

[Mansfield]

No worries, I probably won't be jumping at Class either; 37'8" today, but I popped my hamstring at the end of the 100 (where I ran 11.8; almost a second slower than just a month ago). I'm almost 90% certain I'm done for the season.

that 100 looked pretty painful from what i saw

[Ecliptica]

Haha, was it ever.

I'm taking tomorrow and Tuesday off, I'm running this class meet regardless of how I feel; if I finish dead last I finish dead last, but I'd rather have run it than wonder what would've happened if I didn't.

[HurdlinDuck110]

its tough to get into that mind-set when it's so easy to just give up. congrats man. god speed.

[Mansfield]

Top 4 tomorrow advance to all states so I'm going with a more realistic goal of 43'. Anything over my pr I'll be happy though.

[rebeljumper]

im also shooting for 43' but with this bum groin it probably isnt happening

[aidan]

I think this is the third time ive posted this in the spring.. but i got state quals tomorrow.. and.. 42' or bust

[Myllertime]

well, i started doing track on my birthday, april 1st, first time ever, well that meet i got 39' 10". after meets and stuff, about a week ago i Pr'ed 47' 1". i took second in sections today (may 27th) with a 46' 6" and i felt like it was a 43ish. i had a bad day and still jumped 46' 6". Now i got states next week. i don't care what i'll place, i just wanna PR. and i wish i could get a coach, because i don't have a "triple jump" coach. the hish jump coach just looks at things online and tells me what to do. its hard like that. so coaches out there that would like to give me some good advice, please do me that favor. im only a junior, i still got next year to be able to practice and get better.

[SpikeyJumper]

My highest is 5'0'' on the high jump. I can't get my hips up! It bugs me so much. I got DEAD last at state w/ 4'10''......

[propain]

girl.....right?

[TJ]

My highest is 5'0'' on the high jump. I can't get my hips up! It bugs me so much. I got DEAD last at state w/ 4'10''......

I thought you didnt even get 4 10? I didnt know you got 5? did u get that right before state?

[Mansfield]

all states up next so im throwing my goal way out to 45 feet, which im hoping is in the top 6

for decathalon im hoping to get around 41-43 feet in triple, 20'6" in long which I havent done in a while and 5'08" in high jump, total points around 5600

[rebeljumper]

All-States are tomorrow, my goal is either 44' or come in top 8. Possibly the last meaningful jumps of high school even though i'm doing the decathlon a few days later.