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Beto
12-10-2005, 07:48 PM
Well this morning, I have a meet....


but there are just 1 day for all the events


first I ran the 100m


then I go LJ....and I jumped 6.23

and after LJ I go TJ and I do just one jump of 12.30m


Did you think guys that the 100m and 3 LJ, could get me tired for the TJ, and by that my TJ sucks like that 12.30m??

:(

AtownTx-Jurdler
12-10-2005, 08:05 PM
i dont see what your worried about

jumping 40'4" is not too bad for someone jumping 20'5" on the long
i'm assuming this is your first triple competition? .. i dno but just learn to perfect your triple technique as much as you can and it will get there
it's still early

Beto
12-10-2005, 08:26 PM
yeah It´s my first triple competition, and also it was the first time that I wear my new reebok TJ spikes, but I jump the last year 13.20m , it´s normal that I jumped 12.30 m at this point of the season?


I want to jump a 13.80m this season

AtownTx-Jurdler
12-11-2005, 12:02 AM
yeah It´s my first triple competition, and also it was the first time that I wear my new reebok TJ spikes, but I jump the last year 13.20m , it´s normal that I jumped 12.30 m at this point of the season?


I want to jump a 13.80m this season

lol you always ask these not so answerable questions .. its all good though
i dont know what would be normal for you
and its your first, wait a little and see what you can really jump atm
45 feet is a hefty goal but anything can happen with hard work


EDIT .. i thought it was your first triple competition ever .. its your first of the season .. people start their season worse than they ended their previous all the time .. its not a big deal. You will see what you can do later on

and 45 feet from 43 feet the previous year is Definitly doable

Beto
12-11-2005, 02:47 AM
Thanks for the answer, you always answer my posts thanks a lot, I post every question because my coach it´s sooooo stupid and lame, and he never knows what to say, to anyone on the team, when we have questions, he say always the same stupid phrase: "Just train and I will help you further" damn....


Ok about starting the season worse as I finished the last one, I doesn´t know it, my coach says that I need to be more strong at the start of the season, and by that, I need to jump farther.......


Thanks again

AtownTx-Jurdler
12-11-2005, 02:08 PM
Thanks for the answer, you always answer my posts thanks a lot, I post every question because my coach it´s sooooo stupid and lame, and he never knows what to say, to anyone on the team, when we have questions, he say always the same stupid phrase: "Just train and I will help you further" damn....


Ok about starting the season worse as I finished the last one, I doesn´t know it, my coach says that I need to be more strong at the start of the season, and by that, I need to jump farther.......


Thanks again


you probably are stronger than you were at the end of the season last year
I don't know how you train but the following is the case for most people
I'm sure you have been training hard to get stronger/faster. Well most likely, your legs arent exactly at tip top condition right now because of all the training. That is why, you should progress later on during the season as your workouts taper and your legs are fresh. Though 40' from 43' is pretty bad. As long as you get closer to that 43' your second or third meet then it should be good from there.

Beto
12-11-2005, 02:18 PM
ok, thanks


about something that my coach says, I´m not sure if he is right


There are 2 lines or tables for jumping


one of 11m and other of 13m

He says, that If I start jumping from the 13m one, I should force myself to go farther than If I keep jumping from the 11m one

Is this true, or are only one more lie from my coach? :confused:

AtownTx-Jurdler
12-11-2005, 02:26 PM
ok, thanks


about something that my coach says, I´m not sure if he is right


There are 2 lines or tables for jumping


one of 11m and other of 13m

He says, that If I start jumping from the 13m one, I should force myself to go farther than If I keep jumping from the 11m one

Is this true, or are only one more lie from my coach? :confused:


im not going to say your coach is wrong, because even if they dont always .. you should always assume they know best =P

as for the question, it could work, but its so close to your pr it could do the complete opposite and make you nervous etc and mess up your jump because your thinking too much from just getting in the sand

and I don't think its really safe for you right now. I mean you only jumped 12.3 the last time. You could've really hurt yourself if you had jumped from the 13. board.

My advice, jumpe where your comfortable. And I would suggest not moving up to the 13m board until you are consistantly jumping 13.5's

NVJumper13
12-11-2005, 03:35 PM
it sometimes helps a lot going from longer boards. the first time i jumped from a 38' board, my pr was only high 37's. my coach told me it was only 35' long so i wasn't very happy when i only went 1-2 feet into the sand. then i found out it was a 39'4" jump and i was pretty happy. as long as you go into the jump with confidence, the long board usually helps...for me at least

LAXCoach
12-11-2005, 07:50 PM
I dont mean to come off as rude, but there is so much bad advice in this thread, I'm not even sure where to start, but I'll try to address it all.

First of all, its his first meet of the year, he only took one jump, it was after competing in two other events. That all said 40'4" isn't that bad, and improving to 45' by the end of the season is definitely within the realm of possibilities. Comments like "Though 40' from 43' is pretty bad. As long as you get closer to that 43' your second or third meet then it should be good from there." besides just being wrong, just plain arent needed.

"my coach says that I need to be more strong at the start of the season, and by that, I need to jump farther....."

I hate to rip on another coach, but a philosophy like that is awful. At the start of the season you should see some of your worst results of the season. What would the point of having strong performances the first meet even be?

"He says, that If I start jumping from the 13m one, I should force myself to go farther than If I keep jumping from the 11m one"

Absolutely do not start jumping from the 13m one. That's about 42'6" and your PR is only a little over 43'. That means that on your best jump you're not even getting a foot of clearance. Jumping from 13m will do nothing but result in you either bailing out of a lot of jumps or getting seriously injured. You're a good enough jumper that if you're at a meet where they have something like a 38-39 foot board you should try jumping from that, but you should not be jumping from 13m.


All in all, don't let one disappointing result get you down, especially when its the first meet of the year and you only took one jump. Jumping events especially triple jump are known for having a wide variance in results. When I jumped I had seasons where the spread between my best meet and worst meet was 6 feet. My best jumper last year had a spread of a little over 5 feet. It happens, and its worth noting that both of these examples were with the bad result being in a meet just like that one, at the beginning of the season only taking 1 or 2 jumps, and the good result coming at the end of the season. Keep working hard and do your best to stay injury free, and you should be within striking distance of your goals.

aidan
12-11-2005, 08:48 PM
I dont mean to come off as rude, but there is so much bad advice in this thread, I'm not even sure where to start, but I'll try to address it all.

First of all, its his first meet of the year, he only took one jump, it was after competing in two other events. That all said 40'4" isn't that bad, and improving to 45' by the end of the season is definitely within the realm of possibilities. Comments like "Though 40' from 43' is pretty bad. As long as you get closer to that 43' your second or third meet then it should be good from there." besides just being wrong, just plain arent needed.

"my coach says that I need to be more strong at the start of the season, and by that, I need to jump farther....."

I hate to rip on another coach, but a philosophy like that is awful. At the start of the season you should see some of your worst results of the season. What would the point of having strong performances the first meet even be?

"He says, that If I start jumping from the 13m one, I should force myself to go farther than If I keep jumping from the 11m one"

Absolutely do not start jumping from the 13m one. That's about 42'6" and your PR is only a little over 43'. That means that on your best jump you're not even getting a foot of clearance. Jumping from 13m will do nothing but result in you either bailing out of a lot of jumps or getting seriously injured. You're a good enough jumper that if you're at a meet where they have something like a 38-39 foot board you should try jumping from that, but you should not be jumping from 13m.


All in all, don't let one disappointing result get you down, especially when its the first meet of the year and you only took one jump. Jumping events especially triple jump are known for having a wide variance in results. When I jumped I had seasons where the spread between my best meet and worst meet was 6 feet. My best jumper last year had a spread of a little over 5 feet. It happens, and its worth noting that both of these examples were with the bad result being in a meet just like that one, at the beginning of the season only taking 1 or 2 jumps, and the good result coming at the end of the season. Keep working hard and do your best to stay injury free, and you should be within striking distance of your goals.



your best post ever :)

AtownTx-Jurdler
12-11-2005, 10:26 PM
first off.
I'm going to say right now .. I apologize if my advice sucked. I thought what I said was right as thats how I've been taught and I am quick to admit that I was wrong.

2ndly .. a lot of what I said you said too so it all couldnt of been that bad .. eh

LAXCoach
12-11-2005, 10:50 PM
first off.
I'm going to say right now .. I apologize if my advice sucked. I thought what I said was right as thats how I've been taught and I am quick to admit that I was wrong.

2ndly .. a lot of what I said you said too so it all couldnt of been that bad .. eh


i didnt mean to imply it was all bad, just one thing that struck me wrong mostly.