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ETSUThrower05
02-03-2006, 10:14 PM
What are your best throwing marks in a official meet? No pr's in practice or any meet that did not mark your throw.

Post name. School

Post the throw measurement.

Post the website linked to it.

And I will start.

Justin White, East Tennessee State University (ETSU)

Shot --41.5 feet Ranked 4th in conference.

35lbWeight-- 33'08''.5 feet

Link https://secure.sportssystems.com/ScoreReporting/views/default/report.cfm?conferenceID=6&sportID=2&g=M

SoCold
02-04-2006, 12:17 PM
What are your best throwing marks in a official meet? No pr's in practice or any meet that did not mark your throw.

Post name. School

Post the throw measurement.

Post the website linked to it.

And I will start.

Justin White, East Tennessee State University (ETSU)

Shot --41.5 feet Ranked 4th in conference.

35lbWeight-- 33'08''.5 feet

Link https://secure.sportssystems.com/ScoreReporting/views/default/report.cfm?conferenceID=6&sportID=2&g=M

And you throw in college???

ETSUThrower05
02-05-2006, 01:03 AM
Yes I am a freshman college thrower.

Smitty
02-06-2006, 06:44 PM
Remember that that is a 16 pound shot SoCold ;)

David Smith, Newton North High School

Shot: 53' 10.5" http://www.coolrunning.com/results/06/ma/Jan5_BaySta_set1.shtml

Discus: 131' 10" (No link availible)

SoCold
02-09-2006, 09:17 PM
Remember that that is a 16 pound shot SoCold ;)

David Smith, Newton North High School

Shot: 53' 10.5" http://www.coolrunning.com/results/06/ma/Jan5_BaySta_set1.shtml

Discus: 131' 10" (No link availible)

I know that....I'm in high school and i've thrown the 16-pounder 7 feet past that.

Ecliptica
02-09-2006, 09:37 PM
So you should be throwing about 55' with the 12 pound shot. It's about an 8 foot difference give or take a foot or two.

Milesofsmiles15
02-09-2006, 10:42 PM
i threw a 16 pound shot 30 feet once, not bad for a distance runner

someguy
02-12-2006, 10:49 AM
Name: Kenny Wickey, Shoreham Wading River Highschool

Shotput: 43'11"-http://just-in-time-racing.com/indoor/wt0506results/Boys%20League%205.htm

Discus 140'10.5"-http://just-in-time-racing.com/track/05stanthonyresults.htm

SoCold
02-12-2006, 03:58 PM
So you should be throwing about 55' with the 12 pound shot. It's about an 8 foot difference give or take a foot or two.
And that I am ;) .. Yeah, I belive the ratio makes the added footage somewhere around 7 or 8 feet, but you have to take into consideration that a 16 lb shot is much harder to move with and harder to get height on..

WHenning
02-16-2006, 09:55 PM
the 16 is no harder to get height on than the 12lb.. if you know what your doing it should take the same angle. If you don't, then that should tell you a lil something about your technique. The conversion is 2ft pr lb. Plus just because your throwing further then someone else doesnt mean that you need to bewidle him... for all we know this is his first year throwing, so unless your throwing 70ft in the 16lb shot i would go **** yourself b4 you tell someone else that your better then them.

but besides that

Walter Henning
St.Anthony's Junior

25lb weight - 81'
35lb weight - 57'7"
12lb shot- 58'9"
16lb shot- 52'4"
12lb hammer- 226'6" (sophomore year)
16lb hammer- 180'9" (sophomore year)

Measure This
02-17-2006, 01:55 PM
the 16 is no harder to get height on than the 12lb.. if you know what your doing it should take the same angle. If you don't, then that should tell you a lil something about your technique. The conversion is 2ft pr lb. Plus just because your throwing further then someone else doesnt mean that you need to bewidle him... for all we know this is his first year throwing, so unless your throwing 70ft in the 16lb shot i would go **** yourself b4 you tell someone else that your better then them.

but besides that

Walter Henning
St.Anthony's Junior

25lb weight - 81'
35lb weight - 57'7"
12lb shot- 58'9"
16lb shot- 52'4"
12lb hammer- 226'6" (sophomore year)
16lb hammer- 180'9" (sophomore year)


Hey Walter,
I threw against you in that horrible ring in Indianapolis last summer, I'm Jake. Congrats on your crazy far weight throw this winter. NIce marks in all that.

12# shot 45
discus 162
hammer 158
javelin 155
weight 25# 51

WHenning
02-17-2006, 03:01 PM
Hey Walter,
I threw against you in that horrible ring in Indianapolis last summer, I'm Jake. Congrats on your crazy far weight throw this winter. NIce marks in all that.

12# shot 45
discus 162
hammer 158
javelin 155
weight 25# 51

Jake Fuller?, thanks for the compliments man...r u going to Nike indoor?

Measure This
02-18-2006, 02:03 PM
no man I such at shot and have only thrown the weight once, 51', I am more of an outdoor athlete here in cali. You comin to the arcdia or golden west? Keep up the big stuff man, unbelievable. I see your name on a few emails from college coaches sending me results any idea where you want to go to school, I have no idea... Yah Jake Fuller

SoCold
02-18-2006, 03:26 PM
Hey Walter,
I threw against you in that horrible ring in Indianapolis last summer, I'm Jake. Congrats on your crazy far weight throw this winter. NIce marks in all that.

12# shot 45
discus 162
hammer 158
javelin 155
weight 25# 51
Walter, are you going to NIN?

ETSUThrower05
02-18-2006, 07:19 PM
Just to let you guys know. The Atlantic Sun Conference just finished its inaugraul indoor track season in Johnson City, TN and well...

East Tennessee State is the 2006 Atlantic Sun Indoor Track and Field Champions.

Thanks,
JW

WHenning
02-18-2006, 08:31 PM
Walter, are you going to NIN?

yeap ill be at both NIN and NSIC.

tabortiger
02-18-2006, 10:58 PM
well I dunno bout yall but I'm going to the Golden West (probably) and defenitely the Great Southwest....I wanna go to the Nike Outdoor Nationals but I dunno I still got a while since I'm a sophomore this year.

My PR's.....1.6k and 12lb
Discus-181'11 (as a freshman)
Shot-55'10 (freshman)

In practice now this year my farthest in discus is 195 and shot 58...........but I'm not too big on talking about practice PR's cause they dont mean crap I just felt like typing something I've dont recently.......peace out yall hope to see yall at some big meets.

WHenning
02-18-2006, 11:24 PM
Tabor as in Geffery?

Geoffrey * My bad

WHenning
02-18-2006, 11:26 PM
Geoffrey*** my bad

tabortiger
02-19-2006, 01:09 AM
yeah I'm Geoffrey Tabor from Oklahoma.......I dunno if I've thrown against you a whole lot (I don't throw weight or hammer even though I'm gonna learn) but yeah thats me.

WHenning
02-19-2006, 09:41 AM
yeah I'm Geoffrey Tabor from Oklahoma.......I dunno if I've thrown against you a whole lot (I don't throw weight or hammer even though I'm gonna learn) but yeah thats me.


Yea I used to throw against you at Junior Olympics and Youth Nationals in the Shot and Disc when we were younger

laine_christine
02-20-2006, 10:26 AM
Yea I used to throw against you at Junior Olympics and Youth Nationals in the Shot and Disc when we were younger

this is random but i remember you from the JO's and youth athletics...you threw jav too...did you stop? you were wicked good.

WHenning
02-20-2006, 04:36 PM
this is random but i remember you from the JO's and youth athletics...you threw jav too...did you stop? you were wicked good.

lol thats cool that you remember me.... I did throw jav. I threw 156'6" my freshman year and hurt my shoulder... I took sophomore year off and I might daddle with it this comming outdoor season

laine_christine
02-20-2006, 06:28 PM
yeah if you're who I'm thinking of you also did the spin in shot and so did I so it was kinda hard to forget. that sucks about hurting your shoulder in the jav though. 156'6" is sick as a frosh. good luck with it this spring!

WHenning
02-20-2006, 07:33 PM
yeah if you're who I'm thinking of you also did the spin in shot and so did I so it was kinda hard to forget. that sucks about hurting your shoulder in the jav though. 156'6" is sick as a frosh. good luck with it this spring!

yea thats me i spin lol thanks you too

Nate
02-22-2006, 11:00 AM
This is Nathaniel Donley (friends & coaches call me Nate) from Florida. This is my first posting. Last year as an eighth grader I threw at a meet 153’1.5” with the 1.6 high school discus. I am 5’3” 140 pounds. I am suppose to have a growth spurt soon—I hope.

This year I am a freshman in a track program that is not important to my high school. Football is the big sport here. I played football and basketball this season but severely sprained my ankle twice—the last time was a little over one week ago.

Now being injured my farthest throw in practice is around 150 but I am not consistent. I am throwing in the 130s and 140s. I need advice or help from someone or a coach. At my school I am one of 15 people who throw for two hours every day with no supervision in skill and technique. There is no lifting program, no core training, no sprinting or plyometric programs. After practice I am so tired that I can’t do much else. My dad knows how to do and coach this discus thing but he is being shut out.

I want to have a great freshman season--but without training how am I to get better? I would like to get a sports scholarship. My goal that my dad and I set for this year was to throw in the 170s, but now it is to throw in the 150s and maybe in the 160s.

Anyone got any advice?

Nate

homeless
02-22-2006, 12:14 PM
the difference between 12 and 16 lb throws depends a lot on the type of thrower...as a smaller and very fast thrower (who spins) I can rip the 12lb but have substantially more trouble with the 16 lb...I throw a lot with both so I have a lot of comparison marks...I'm a coach, an experienced decathlete, and technically sound...

point: my belief is that "power" throwers generally can get 16lb marks closer to their 12lb than can "speed" throwers

Measure This
02-22-2006, 12:16 PM
Nate,
Do you have a throws coach? Use your Dad I do, my coach used to do the multi events and doesn't specialize in throws, but my Dad does. I throw at home, we have a ring, and lift at home. I do the sprint workout and throw the shot for the most part at school. They haven't shut my Dad out but he can't get off work until later, so we throw the discus after track practice for an hour. It makes for a long day but I am a lot better off than I would be. Get healthy first, find a good core workout and do it on you own, then find a way to have your Dad coach you.
freshman pr 153
soph 162
junior year goal 178 (this year)

Good luck man
Jake

homeless
02-22-2006, 12:22 PM
This is Nathaniel Donley (friends & coaches call me Nate) from Florida. This is my first posting. Last year as an eighth grader I threw at a meet 153’1.5” with the 1.6 high school discus. I am 5’3” 140 pounds. I am suppose to have a growth spurt soon—I hope.

This year I am a freshman in a track program that is not important to my high school. Football is the big sport here. I played football and basketball this season but severely sprained my ankle twice—the last time was a little over one week ago.

Now being injured my farthest throw in practice is around 150 but I am not consistent. I am throwing in the 130s and 140s. I need advice or help from someone or a coach. At my school I am one of 15 people who throw for two hours every day with no supervision in skill and technique. There is no lifting program, no core training, no sprinting or plyometric programs. After practice I am so tired that I can’t do much else. My dad knows how to do and coach this discus thing but he is being shut out.

I want to have a great freshman season--but without training how am I to get better? I would like to get a sports scholarship. My goal that my dad and I set for this year was to throw in the 170s, but now it is to throw in the 150s and maybe in the 160s.

Anyone got any advice?

Nate
I am a HS coach...

...good God that's huge for an 8th grader...listen, if the coaches are resistent to help, and are doing nothing but standing around (are you being truly objective about this?) then I would suggest your father volunteers to be a coach, trying to get in the door gently...if that doesn't work, then he may want to approach the AD...

the only problem is that I've seen a lot of parents who think they know the events and the coaches are clueless, often when it's absolutely not accurate...I can't speak to your situation without seeing specifics, but I would be an assertive parent if coaches are just standing around idly...it's tough to say what to do. Lots of self-proclaimed "parent geniuses"...

I understand your concern and empathize with you...I also have to suspect your assesment might be accurate, since to throw 153 at your size and age suggests that you and/or dad knows something...

you may have to just go along with practice and have dad help you out privately afterwards if nothing is going on...I'm reluctant to even suggest that because I've seen idiot parents do that with their kids when misjudging a lack of knowledge, etc. on some of the best coaches around.

just thoughts, good luck and PM me if you wanna give updates on the situation and your progress. curious

Nate
02-22-2006, 06:18 PM
Jake--thanks! Sometimes I think I'm the only one going through something like this. Your dad sounds great!!

Coach, thanks for your advice. There are only two coaches for my track team. The head coach is a sprint specialist form BYU and is very good, but doesn't know anything about the field events (he admits it). The field event coach is a really good guy and has watched the Powell and Wilkins videos. Don't get me wrong but my dad and I like both of these coaches very much. But I have to throw two hours every day with no time to lift, do core, and sprint. I am so tired at the end that I just don't have alot left. When we do lift and do the other things I get home around 7:30 at night. So my practice is from 2:30 to 7:15 pm. I can hardly move and do my homework.

My dad wants me to throw on Mondays, Wednesdays, and Fridays while lifting, core, etc., on Tuesdays, Thursdays, and Saturdays. They just don't see it his way. He has volunteered to help but they havn't taken him up on it. My dad thinks I am being over-worked. During football season my dad would take me to the gym and lift at 5:00 in the morning then take me home or to school and then went to work. But his schduled changed and we can't really do that anymore.

In every practice we have 15 people who take turns throwing 9-10 discuses. When one person finishes throwing he/she goes out into the field while the next person throws. That's it. It is quanity without quality. My dad says that practice does not always make perfect--if the practice is wrong it makes you perfect at doing it wrong.

I think my dad knows his stuff. He was the 1974 Iowa state champion in the discus. He never lifted a weight (he came from a poor family) but had great technique (he had no coach). He then went to a college that did not have a track program. He has alot of people from all over ask him for his help. He also listens to and gets the advice of a lot of people. He had Al Oerter help me when I was in the 7th grade. That's when I threw 207-1 with the 1.0 k discus that year (eliteyouth.com). On that 207 throw I tore a small muscle in my shoulder that killed me the rest of the season. My progression was:

5th grade -- 126-5 1.0 k discus
6th grade -- 154 1.0 k discus
7th grade -- 207-1 1.0 k discus
8th grade -- 153-1 1/2 -- boys' high school discus

You are suppose to start slow and then speed up. I start fast in the back of the ring and get faster. My footwork is right where it needs to be. Last year in the first meet (an AAU qualifier) I had a brand new pair of Nike discus shoes (fast as lightning). It had rained the night before (it always rains in Florida) and they swept the water out of the ring instead of just leaving it. I was the first person to throw in that slick ring and my feet when out from under me and I fell on my back but I did not let the discus go. The discus almost cut off my little finger as it hit the cement. There was blood all over the ring. They took me to the emergency room. From then on I could only throw with four fingers and was only throwing in the low 130's. Once It got better at the end of the season I hit the 153 foot throw.

AS a freshman I would throw a few throws with the college discus right before football practice. I was throwing it around 130-135. That worked pretty good. Now I have the ankle injuries and I have to throw every day. Today I only threw 142 in practice. My dad didn't have me do anything else, that's why I am home early today. Our first meet is this Friday. I am hoping to throw 150 plus.

Thanks for your help.

Nate

tabortiger
02-22-2006, 08:38 PM
Nate I have some advice on throwing\lifting after school check your PM's I'll send you some stuff.

homeless
02-23-2006, 02:34 PM
Nate,
at your age I would suggest that you should be lifting a maximum of 2 days per week, you are still growing bud. Gotta think long term and don't want to do damage to connective tissue etc...but that's good news. No reason you couldn't be throwing 4 days per week (echoing your dad's quality over quantity statement) and lifting, doing non-throwing drills etc. on 2 days, with one day complete or active rest. Therefore you don't sacrifice academics, sanity and having a life. My athletes will rarely throw more than 4 days per week, never more than 5...too much else that can be done to improve...

as far as the "fast and get faster"...IMO never a good thing to be fast early bud. Constant, but progressively rapid acceleration starts from zero and shouldn't be at 50% speed halfway through the throw. If you are "fast" anywhere before the disc is at the rearmost point of the circle, think about it: you are working against an object (momentum) that is rapidly moving AWAY from the intended direction of travel. The only reason you chase across the circle is to get forward momentum of your body developed, not to develop speed of the disc. That should not be happening until it's reached the rear of the circle, the left foot comes down and you start driving the right hip forward hip...THEN and only then should you be thinking FAST! Fast driving of the right knee, hip and side blocking to whip the disc.

just some thoughts since you seem to understand/know enough to digest it

if the coaches are cool then work with them on improving practice (AWAY from other teammates so it doesn't seem like you are trying to one up them)...offer them info, work from there

better to work with someone than against them

I want updates ;)

homeless
02-23-2006, 02:34 PM
Nate I have some advice on throwing\lifting after school check your PM's I'll send you some stuff.
send me too, curious as to your toughts bud...thanks

WestRep
03-03-2006, 09:37 PM
Just threw my first varsity meet...(luckily before the meet rained out)

shotput- 46' 11.5"

name in the paper, baby : )

NormanTigerTabor
03-05-2006, 02:23 PM
I had my first out door meet this year yesterday
disc- 168 (167. 11 ..close enough)
shot 56.9