the civil rights movement

[brightonjew]

Hi I Am from ny. I am very interseted in the history of the United States. In my readings on the civil rights movement I have noticed It was met with malicous violence and hostility ,particulary from Mississippi and Alabama. The crimes commited against( the killing of Enmmit Till is an example) African Americans by your Grandparents and parents generation are macbre and disturbing. Mlk jr day is a federal holiday that all of the NY state schools honor and are closed. Are yours?. I am not accusing anybody of racism but do you feel any responsibility for repressing black rights while the majority of states progressed toward integration? Do your schools close on Jefferson Davis Birthday? I apoligize if I seem vitiriolic at all , if I do its only because I am curious. This is not an attack in any way. I just want some info.

[KossuthTrackCC08]

Yes, we do get off on Martin Luther King Jr. day. I am from TN and I had no idea about some of the stuff that happened until I took MS studies.

[oxfordrun]

Hi I Am from ny. I am very interseted in the history of the United States. In my readings on the civil rights movement I have noticed It was met with malicous violence and hostility ,particulary from Mississippi and Alabama. The crimes commited against( the killing of Enmmit Till is an example) African Americans by your Grandparents and parents generation are macbre and disturbing. Mlk jr day is a federal holiday that all of the NY state schools honor and are closed. Are yours?. I am not accusing anybody of racism but do you feel any responsibility for repressing black rights while the majority of states progressed toward integration? Do your schools close on Jefferson Davis Birthday? I apoligize if I seem vitiriolic at all , if I do its only because I am curious. This is not an attack in any way. I just want some info.

you spelled Emmett Till wrong, first of all. if MLK JR day is a Federal Holiday, then chances are that our schools are closed (mississippi is still a member of the union). my grandparents were in Germany on one side and here in Mississippi on the other side, and I don't feel any responsibility whatsoever. why would I, who was born in 1984 (22 years after the integration of ole miss), "feel any responsibility for repressing black rights"???

throughout my life (17 years of which has been in the state of mississippi), ive never had a bit of racist feelings and i have tons of friends of all races.

but to be honest you should do a lot more research (particularly outside of dyestat.com)

[brightonjew]

I only ment that does your states government feel any remorse and apologize? ( by memorials or public statements).

[oxfordrun]

I only ment that does your states government feel any remorse and apologize? ( by memorials or public statements).

yes.

[brightonjew]

I want to know the opinion of people in your state? Do you wish the civil rights movemnt never happend or do tyhr majoriyt of mississippians embrace an integrated society. I only ask because this is the first generation to grow up in an integrated society.

[MCrunninman06]

I want to know the opinion of people in your state? Do you wish the civil rights movemnt never happend or do tyhr majoriyt of mississippians embrace an integrated society. I only ask because this is the first generation to grow up in an integrated society.

Man.............I really HATE black people. Dang I hate them.


Are you really serious? I mean...obviously there are still some in Mississippi who are still living in the 1860's mindset...but seriously...yes...MOST mississipians do "embrace an integrated society."

And also........we do have electricity, indoor plumbing, and shoes (contrary to popular belief).

[brightonjew]

I am sorry to offend you. It is a logical question considering the history of your state. Mississippi has only been integrated for 40years so it is logical to assume that people 45+ might still hold attitudes that were socialy acceptable during their youth. They may be private sentiments but they might still exist.

[MCrunninman06]

I am sorry to offend you. It is a logical question considering the history of your state. Mississippi has only been integrated for 40years so it is logical to assume that people 45+ might still hold attitudes that were socialy acceptable during their youth. They may be private sentiments but they might still exist.

No harm done. At least you were willing to ask unlike most people who probably just assume that MS is still the same. And you're right...there are some in the older generation of MS that still don't really think that blacks should be treated as equals. However...most people would probably just laugh at them or ignore them.

[brightonjew]

I am a communist. I am ultra liberal/ How does that make me a bigot? I only aked due tot he violent response of your state to the early civil rights movement. It has nothing to do with my biased towards the north. You clearly are a virtuoso of American history so tell me hoe immigrants were physicaly abused untill the ninteen sixties. I can tell you all about literacy taxes and so forth but I understand the oppresion my people were put through when they arrived in the United States in 1894. WHy are you so ubnreasonble? AllI aked was there any lingering tensions from the civil rights movement. You response clearly is indicative of that malciousness and I hope there are moe people like MCrunninman out there because you are an ignominious elitest who gratifies himself through obscene accusations. :mad:

[oxfordrun]

MISSISSIPPI STILL BURNING - Paul Harvey

Mississippi is still burning. Times have changed, but the incendiaries won't quit. Mississippi, statistically, could shame most of our states with its minimal per capita crime, its cultural maturity and its distinguished alumni. But Mississippi has enough residual gentility of the Old South not to rub our noses in our own comparative inadequacy. The pack-media could not wait to remake the movie MISSISSIPPI BURNING into a TV version called MURDER IN MISSISSIPPI. Thus yet another generation of Americans is being indoctrinated with indelible snapshots which are half a century out of date.

The very idea that anybody from New York, D.C., Chicago or L.A. could launch stones from those shabby glass houses toward anybody else is patently absurd. Lilliputians have a psychological need to make everybody else appear small and Mississippi, too nice to fight back, is such an easy target.

The International Ballet Competition regularly rotates among four citadels where there is a sufficiency of sophisticated art appreciation: Varna, Bulgaris-Helsinki, Finland - Moscow, USSR and Jackson, Mississippi. Only Mississippi has a satellite art program in which the state Museum of Art sends exhibits around the state for the enjoyment of smaller communities. No state can point to a richer per capita contribution to arts and letters. William Faulkner, Richard Wright, Walker Percy, Ellen Douglas, Willie Morris, Margaret Walker Alexander, Eudora Welty, Tennessee Williams, Thomas Harris (Silence of the Lambs) and John Grisham are Mississippians. As are Leontyne Price, Elvis Presley, Tammy Wynette, B.B. King, Jimmy Rogers, Oprah Winfrey and Jimmy Buffett.

Scenery? The Natchez Trace is the second most traveled parkway in our nation. With magnolia and dogwood, stately pines and moss-draped oaks, Mississippi is in bloom all year 'round. And the state stays busy - manufacturing more upholstered furniture than any state...testing space shuttle engines for NASA...building rocket motors.

Much of our nation's most monumental medical progress has roots in Mississippi. The first heart transplant in 1964. The first lung transplant in 1963. The most widely used medical textbook in the world, THE TEXTBOOK OF MEDICAL PHYSIOLOGY, reprinted in ten languages, was authored by Dr. Arthur Guyton of the University of Mississippi.

The Case Method of practicing law, the basis of the United States legal system, was developed at the University of Mississippi. Nationally, educators are chewing their fingernails up past the second knuckle anxious about the disgraceful rate of dropouts and illiterate graduates... In Mississippi, the state government and two philanthropic organizations have teamed up to put a computer-based literacy program in every elementary school in the state.

Maybe Mississippi is right to downplay it's opportunities, advantages and refinement. The ill-mannered rest of us, converging, would surely mess it up.

[pearlrunner]

all i can say is wow!!!!!

[brightonjew]

WOW. That is interesting. I did not mean to cause such a controversy. All I wanted to know was if their were any anit cicil rights sentiment in a country that only forty years ago was strictly segrefgationoist. I was not condmenning your state as an intellectualu wasteland. I dont know where any one got that idea. There are some Germans who feel that the holocqaust is being taken ou tof proportion. There are south africans who wish apartheid were still in effect. Does that men South afrcia and Germany are worhless? Not at all. I know that following the 1968 race riot in my city their is a significant middle aged white population (who fled from the cites into the sububrbs) who feel that blacks are inferroir. This has led to defacto segregation in our city school district.

[wilcofan]

Hey brightonjew, in New York, do you still have to classify the South as a bunch of ignorant redneck who listen to country music and drive pickup trucks. If you want to ask us our opinion about something that I didn't even know of, consult a textbook, not dyestat. Also, get your facts straight before coming down on our forum and discussing the past. Lastly, the last time that I check, the dyestat forums are about running, not history. If you want history consult your history textbook, not dyestat. If you want to talk about running, consult dyestat, not your history textbook. I hope I straighten out things for you.

[brightonjew]

WOW. Such hostility. Is that Dixie I hear? This was supposed to be a quesation regarding the development of race relations following one of the most difficult struggles in American history. Sme of you have been extremely helpful while others have demonstrated that there is a significant amount of anger left over. WHy else would you avoid answering my question and respond by attacking my religious beliefs and geographical location. AND before you go whining about oppressed arabs learn about what happened in 1948, 1967, and 1973. I guess I know never to venture below the mason dixon line for fear of meeting people like Calle8.

Calle 8 du bist ein tatske alter kocker.

[Renbircs]

WOW. Such hostility. Is that Dixie I hear?

Do you have to keep saying things like this? You're not trying to accuse anybody? You've been biased this entire thread. What kind of statement is, "The crimes commited against( the killing of Enmmit Till is an example) African Americans by your Grandparents and parents generation are macbre and disturbing." Do you really not see how that could bother any of us? To be honest, I am offended by such a statement. The "anger left over" is at accusatory people, I guess.

[brightonjew]

Jewish law forbides intermarriage to protect the survival of Judaism. and The HAssidm ,well their are just different. They are not mainstream Judaism. The Feminist Movement is quite connected to Judaism and in the majority of practing Jews ( ie Consewratives and Refromists) consider women equal. Obvioulsy you hate Jewish people. That I can deduce from your vitriloci sentiment. How am I a bigot? Just because I am a northerner inquiring about current racial relations in a state that forty years ago, heavily opposed racial intergration. You use the term bigot way to loosley, considering your problems with Jewish people. Do you have a poster of Gen. Nathan Bedford Forrest in you room?

[Renbircs]

Jewish law forbides intermarriage to protect the survival of Judaism. and The HAssidm ,well their are just different. They are not mainstream Judaism. The Feminist Movement is quite connected to Judaism and in the majority of practing Jews ( ie Consewratives and Refromists) consider women equal. Obvioulsy you hate Jewish people. That I can deduce from your vitriloci sentiment. How am I a bigot? Just because I am a northerner inquiring about current racial relations in a state that forty years ago, heavily opposed racial intergration. You use the term bigot way to loosley, considering your problems with Jewish people. Do you have a poster of Gen. Nathan Bedford Forrest in you room?

You just don't get it. He is asking questions just like you are to show you what it's like. He doesn't hate Jews. He is no more out of line than you are, the difference being that he is making a point. By linking you to immoral practices of a minority of people in your religion, it is upsetting you. Just like it is upsetting us, except it's not religion for our group.

[brightonjew]

Jewish law forbides intermarriage to protect the survival of Judaism. and The HAssidm ,well their are just different. They are not mainstream Judaism. The Feminist Movement is quite connected to Judaism and in the majority of practing Jews ( ie Consewratives and Refromists) consider women equal. Obvioulsy you hate Jewish people. That I can deduce from your vitriolic sentiment. How am I a bigot? Just because I am a northerner inquiring about current racial relations in a state that forty years ago, heavily opposed racial intergration. You use the term bigot way to loosley, considering your problems with Jewish people. Do you have a poster of Gen. Nathan Bedford Forrest in you room?
I dont reject interracial marraige . If a black Jew married a white Jew its all good, If an asian Jew Marries a mexican jew, more power to them. If two gay Jews marry ok. I am critical of you, and seriously question you integrity as a person. Judaism embraces racial equality, in 1991 Israel started an operation to transport oppresses Ethiopian Jews to Israel.



And a key difference is that Hassidim never went around lynching woman.

[oxfordrun]

"Do you have a poster of Gen. Nathan Bedford Forrest in you room?"

quit killing Palestinians, please. I mean c'mon they dont even have an army. Yall are killing them with big guns and tanks, while all they can do is throw rocks and when they have no other option, suicide bombs.

tell me, do you have a poster of the Jew who killed this 12-year old muslim hanging up on your wall??

http://www.themodernreligion.com/jihad/sniper.html

[brightonjew]

You all are dug in tighter than an alabama tick. I better get my carpetbag and head north. See ya'll later.

[oxfordrun]

learn how to spell on your way out

[Jerivichus]

Brightonjew, everyone knows the American proletariat is filled in largely by the poor rural south and always has been. Sorry, but your region is bourgeous as hell and I'm guessing this faux-compassionate elitism has something do with some sort of weird jealousy.

Just kidding.

Anyway, y'all, I don't mean to raise hell or nothing, but it is disheartening to see such pointless circular argument. Just a few points. Intellectualism, radical politics, and ignorance exist in every region of this country. The South is ridiculously beautiful in the summer. Nobody is expected to be born with any sort of cultural or historical original sin. And there is such thing as a Rebel Jew.

And the Southern dialect strengthens one of the English language's notable gaps - by contributing a unique second person plural. That's it, y'all.

[jellyheadXC]

i'm gone go hunt me some deers and ride four wheelers. boy howdy i gutted that buck, had me a dip o' skoal. get ya a dip o' skoal, i got plenty.

[running high]

Why is everyone hating on Brighton?

He asked a question. Why not an answer?

Seems that he exposed his ignorance in trade of making assumptions. Is that a problem?

Simply say, "Well, Brighton, sure racism was prevalent in government and society in the 50s and 60s, but federal government measures mandated otherwise."

I know you aren't bigots and rednecks. Why not tell him?

The only defense you have of such scathing language towards brighton is that racism never existed and northerners know everything about everywhere.

[brightonjew]

I KNOW ALL BOUAT FORREST CALLE8 _ FORT PILOW MASSACRE OF SURREDENDERING UNION TROOPS. I AM NOT SO IGNORANT AFTER ALL.

Forrest was a bloodthirsty killer. Lee was a man of chivalry and ethic. To me Robert E Lee should be one of the most respected individuals in American history.

[Renbircs]

Why is everyone hating on Brighton?

He asked a question. Why not an answer?

Seems that he exposed his ignorance in trade of making assumptions. Is that a problem?

Simply say, "Well, Brighton, sure racism was prevalent in government and society in the 50s and 60s, but federal government measures mandated otherwise."

I know you aren't bigots and rednecks. Why not tell him?

The only defense you have of such scathing language towards brighton is that racism never existed and northerners know everything about everywhere.

Apparently you didn't actually read this thread.

[jellyheadXC]

I KNOW ALL BOUAT FORREST CALLE8 _ FORT PILOW MASSACRE OF SURREDENDERING UNION TROOPS. I AM NOT SO IGNORANT AFTER ALL.

Forrest was a bloodthirsty killer. Lee was a man of chivalry and ethic. To me Robert E Lee should be one of the most respected individuals in American history.
this web site should explain some things:
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[Renbircs]

hahahaha

[MCrunninman06]

hahahaha..

[brightonjew]

Core

[brightonjew]

they exhumed emmit tills remains,

[oxfordrun]

For the love of all things holy, his name is spelled EMMETT TILL you stupid ****ing retard.

[MCrunninman06]

how did i know this was going to come up?

[PreLikedBeer]

brightonjew you obviously read something that disturbed and angered you, and you masked your anger with a question to these southerns. I am also a jew from the north, you cant bull**** me, dont lie to yourself and say you didnt come here to make fun of them for their grandfathers killing blacks or whatever you said.

it may seemed like brightonjew asked a legitimate question, but im sure as the thread would go on he would slowly keep on releasing his anger towards you guys and start making accusing statements, rather than hide behind a question.

[Hall_@ss1088]

I only ment that does your states government feel any remorse and apologize? ( by memorials or public statements).

It's already been done you fricken' dickweed. Are you really that stupid or is this just some mean joke?? Take a closer look at some of the disturbing racial qurrels in NY, bud. It happened everywhere...it happened big time in Wisco, where I'm from. Michigan,Florida,Mass... It's real low for you to come onto a Mississippi thread and ask these people if thier state or grandparents feel bad for what a lot of them never had a thing to do with. Good job on being just as bad as anyone else who unfairly persecutes others based on broad stereotypes (Hitler, KKK, etc...). No one should feel guilty for something they're not guilty of.

[runningincirclesinMS]

Hitler

pwnt

[neshoba_trackguy25]

alright im from philadephia mississippi.............ring any bells? you might of heard of that a alot on court tv or any of the other 12 million freaking places they were puttin it on tv during the trial of edgar ray killen for the civil rights stuff. all it is doing is opening up old wounds and 2nd of all putting an innocent man in prison. im stuck right in the middle of all this stuff here and the blacks hate the whites and vice versa and now more than ever since the trial.