USATF Champs

[CaryacadrunnerXC]

http://www.usatf.org/events/2006/USAOutdoorTFChampionships/entry/status.asp

well, the US Champs are coming up this weekend and here are a few points of interest from looking at the start lists:

1. Wariner in only the 200 against gay and spearmon, no 400 this year
2. Rock vs Williamson in the 400 should be good
3. No Webb, could this be a sign of prolonged injury?
4. Lagat to do 1500-5000 double
5. Rupp entered for 5000-10000 double, it will be ineresting to see which he choses if not both

[trackrunner33]

800 looks like it's going to be a good race

[king99]

I wonder why the Webb scratch has not drawn more attention..all is clearly not right
and a shame after early indicator from his 10K

[starsxburn]

i have heard his season could be done.

or maybe they are saving him for a late european push. like one or 2 races in august.

[king99]

wow,
Not for nothing, but he will lose whole season?

Is he hurt, or they do not like that he did not run well at lower distances.

I am a fan of moving up and testing those bounds

But if they were/are comitted to him being a 15 guy at least for 2-3 years, maybe, just maybe they could have looked at working his 800 side instead of at 10K?

Just a thought.

The 10K seems to have created all/most of the issues? No?

[herr]

If you have an injury in an off year, why not shut it down and let it heal well? Build base and get some end of year sharpening if you can. Frustrating. and you lose experience running in your specialty, but probably the wisest thing to do. The worst would be to have a lingering injury that interferes with training during a wc/olympics two year stretch

[king99]

I am not saying don't shut it down

just wondering out loud what the heck has happened?

he went for a monster indication of fitness at 10K to out for the season?

[KS Roadrunna]

I heard Webb tore a muscle during Pre.

[Pip]

WHAT?! I dont care how fast Wariner may be at the 200, but when he comes out syaing he thinks he can break the WR in the 400, then we better start seeing him run it.

[DCsoloRunner]

Has Krum raced any this season(besides the meet when he got spiked)?

I was thinking about going, but job problems made me stay:( .

[KS Roadrunna]

WHAT?! I dont care how fast Wariner may be at the 200, but when he comes out syaing he thinks he can break the WR in the 400, then we better start seeing him run it.

I think Clyde Hart knows what he's doing. I mean seriously, it's a non championship year & I don't think anyone can even give him a challenge in the 400 right now as it is. They've always said that he was even more speed oriented than Michael Johnson was, but we've never seen him run the 200 when he's in peak condition. I imagine this is purely to work more on his speed & then he will run some 400's in Europe later this summer.

[Achilles]

http://www.usatf.org/events/2006/USAOutdoorTFChampionships/entry/status.asp

well, the US Champs are coming up this weekend and here are a few points of interest from looking at the start lists:

1. Wariner in only the 200 against gay and spearmon, no 400 this year
2. Rock vs Williamson in the 400 should be good
3. No Webb, could this be a sign of prolonged injury?
4. Lagat to do 1500-5000 double
5. Rupp entered for 5000-10000 double, it will be ineresting to see which he choses if not both

Very true, also Fam is skipping steeple all together, 10k it is for him.

5k looks awesome too. It will good to see Goucher start racing again, and Lagat over 5k basically takes away the win from anyone else, unless he doubles

[Agent Orange]

5k looks awesome too. It will good to see Goucher start racing again, and Lagat over 5k basically takes away the win from anyone else, unless he doubles

I can only make it down for Friday night, but I am majorhype psyched for it. A high school teammate of mine is in the 1500 prelims, and that 5k should be great. It will be interesting to see how it's raced. I assume Lagat would want to keep it slow and then go nuts at the end; it'd be a safe bet for him to win with his speed, and that would leave him the closest to fresh for the 1500 final. Will Goucher/Meb/Abdi push the pace to try to make it uncomfortable for Lagat, or is it just not possible for those guys to even do that?

[BisonHurdler]

WHAT?! I dont care how fast Wariner may be at the 200, but when he comes out syaing he thinks he can break the WR in the 400, then we better start seeing him run it.


I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and chalk that up to your being a distance runner. But the fact is, Clyde Hart is having him run a few 200's this season, particularly during the "first half", to fine tune some other aspects of his fitness (namely his high end speed). I doubt anyone expects Wariner to become the world beater that MJ was in the 200m (although maybe Hart does have some plans in that direction down the line), but it doesn't hurt to work on 200m speed to help him in the 400m.

That said, it's important to note that blazing 200m speed is certainly not a requirement for a fast 400m. In fact, MJ was atypical in that regard. Most of the sub 44 400 runners in history have had slower 200 PRs than JW. It's also important to note that even if JW were to begin running in the 19.8's for 200m, that doesn't necessarily translate to 400 WR breaking performances. Back in 1992 when MJ ran 19.79 and 43.98, if someone told you it would still be another 7 years until he broke Butch's WR, you'd probably think they were nuts. Yes, he got close in '95 in Goteborg with 43.39, and perhaps could've broken it had he not been running all the rounds. Same thing with his 43.44 and 43.49 in Atlanta. But this is of course conjecture. The 400m WR is a little better than people give it credit for, in my opinion.

[Aarunmiler]

Rupp is still "open" in both his events, while all the other Oregon athletes are "declared".

[Antonio/Mc]

Rupp will do find, he had a bad and everyone thinks his running career in over.
His in better shape than when he ran that sub 28:20 10k last year.
So if the pace is right and his in race mood, he will break 28:10.

[Aarunmiler]

Rupp will do find, he had a bad and everyone thinks his running career in over.
His in better shape than when he ran that sub 28:20 10k last year.
So if the pace is right and his in race mood, he will break 28:10.
Wasn't doubting him at all. Rupp is an awsome runner. I was just commenting on his entry status.

[remiks]

The women's 200 should be a great race. I was kind of hoping Gatlin would go ahead and try to double the 100 and 200; it would have been excellent to see him square off with Wariner, Spearmon and Gay.

[Track Dude]

The X-Man has scratched the 100m and 200m.
Also rumors of him turning pro in track on an LSU web-board.
:cool:

[herr]

I am not saying don't shut it down

just wondering out loud what the heck has happened?

he went for a monster indication of fitness at 10K to out for the season?

Here is a Webb update (http://www.letsrun.com/2006/webbn06.php) if you haven't seen it.

Nursing his injury now (Hamstring), will miss USATF, but hopes to run a bunch of races in Europe-- 5ks & 1500's in July and early August, some fast miles and 1500's after the European Championships in late August and September

[KHink02]

i'm actually leaving right now to go work for the junior champs...and after today i'll have a full access pass for the rest of the week...can't wait

[Kostyu]

Here is a Webb update (http://www.letsrun.com/2006/webbn06.php) if you haven't seen it.

Nursing his injury now (Hamstring), will miss USATF, but hopes to run a bunch of races in Europe-- 5ks & 1500's in July and early August, some fast miles and 1500's after the European Championships in late August and September
wow that is a pretty tight schedule of racing he has planned

[herr]

wow that is a pretty tight schedule of racing he has planned

I am skeptical that its possible to get over a hamstring injury and have a successful season in Europe with that many races. We will see, I guess

[king99]

well..I would think that a Ray Flynn togther with Razcko know what they are doing, and I doubt he will be in many more spots not being 100%.

ya know despite grabbing his hamstring and pulling up he still ran 4 flat point

I am a little surprised he is racing that often in short span as well though.With two 5K's in there to boot.Good for him and them getting back on the horse in that company over there, will be interesting for sure.

[Joe Lanzalotto]

WHAT?! I dont care how fast Wariner may be at the 200, but when he comes out syaing he thinks he can break the WR in the 400, then we better start seeing him run it.

This reminds me a little of MJs ill-fated experiment with the 100. If you remember, he ran a few, got murdered and went back to killing people in the 400.

I'm glad he is working on his speed. While it is true that you don't need to be a blazer at 2 to be great at 4, it doesn't hurt. Lee Evans was no great 200 guy, and John Smith was good not great, same for Butch. Tommie Smith is the only other one I can think of with great credentials in both. T

[Mrr82]

I'm glad he is working on his speed. While it is true that you don't need to be a blazer at 2 to be great at 4, it doesn't hurt. T

I think it's great he's running the 200 at nationals. No point in running hte 400...run some 200's, and then go back to europe and blaze in the 400 when it matters. Also maybe he wants to be a 200/400 guy....pull the MJ double some day...08...12...who knows. We'll find out pretty soon what kind of speed he really has...he should be much more sharp, and if the weather cooperates for once we could see something great.

[jrun]

Rupp will do find, he had a bad and everyone thinks his running career in over.
His in better shape than when he ran that sub 28:20 10k last year.
So if the pace is right and his in race mood, he will break 28:10.


How do you know he's in better shape?

It would be great if he was, but....

[jrun]

This reminds me a little of MJs ill-fated experiment with the 100. If you remember, he ran a few, got murdered and went back to killing people in the 400.


Why do you label it as "ill-fated?"

Come one, now. The guy went on to run 10.09 that year, placing at U.S. Nationals--the home of incredible sprint depth. That's very, very good for a guy who had his most success at 400m, even back in '95. You do not have to win in an "off" event to have success. It's all about the runner's improvement.

It's like calling Webb's 10k ill-fated if he had run his same exact time at Hengelo or somewhere extremely competitive and finished in the back. It's still good for him.

[GoinTheDistance]

i read that webb is entered in a 5k july 7 against bekele and mottram. if this does happen, which i hope, then the ar is going down

[CGBatch]

Haha I always have been a fan of JW trying the 800. I mean I know its hard for the mindset of a sprinter to go past 1 lap but the man could make sub 1:50 look easy he could probably get down in the 1:46s or even lower.

[Joe Lanzalotto]

Why do you label it as "ill-fated?"

Come one, now. The guy went on to run 10.09 that year, placing at U.S. Nationals--the home of incredible sprint depth. That's very, very good for a guy who had his most success at 400m, even back in '95. You do not have to win in an "off" event to have success. It's all about the runner's improvement.

It's like calling Webb's 10k ill-fated if he had run his same exact time at Hengelo or somewhere extremely competitive and finished in the back. It's still good for him.

Whether you or I think it was successful, he didn't. After getting it handed to him several times he went home to train up for the 400. He and his coach didn't think it was a success and that is from an interview I read at the time.

Hey, if you're MJ you're not used to being in the pack and despite it being an off-event to him, it didn't sit well. I can't blame him.

His goal was to run some fast 100s to get his time down, yes, but more to improve his speed. He cut the effort short and went home to re-tool.

Ill-fated.

[Joe Lanzalotto]

Haha I always have been a fan of JW trying the 800. I mean I know its hard for the mindset of a sprinter to go past 1 lap but the man could make sub 1:50 look easy he could probably get down in the 1:46s or even lower.

I agree he could breeze to sub-1:50, but is that meaningful? Getting under 1:46 would be meaningful, but I don't think he's breezing there. He is way too young to think about moving away from an event in which he is establishing dominance and clearly can go faster. Forays into other events that help him in teh 400 make a lot of sense to me, but moving to another event doesn't (to me).

I totally agree that getting a sprinter to run an 800 is a hard thing, although I have to say that I found the 8 to be easier than the 4 and I enjoyed it more.

[starsxburn]

Haha I always have been a fan of JW trying the 800. I mean I know its hard for the mindset of a sprinter to go past 1 lap but the man could make sub 1:50 look easy he could probably get down in the 1:46s or even lower.

so he can run 1:46.
so can a host of other kids in college.

1:46 won't get him into a b race at a golden league meet.
if he can come out of the box running 1:43 then we might have something.

[Peter-man]

I think Ryan Woods might win if he can match his seed time
He's number 6.




Event 7 Men 10000 Meter Run
================================================== =============================
Thursday 6/22/2006 - 7:20 PM
World: 26:17.53 8/26/2005 Kenenisa Bekele, ETH
American: 27:13.98 5/4/2001 Meb Keflezighi, Nike
Meet: 27:36.49 7/9/2004 Mebrahtom Keflizighi, Nike
Name Year Team Seed Finals
================================================== =============================
Section 1 Timed Finals
1 481 Jason Lehmkuhle T U S A Mn./Sauc 28:33.90
2 482 Brandon Leslie Sports Warrior 28:10.00
3 112 Fernando Cabada Reebok 28:25.62
4 219 Stuart Eagon unattached 28:47.04
5 836 Edwardo Torres Reebok 28:45.60
6 915 Ryan Woods unattached 14:07.79
7 681 Sergio Reyes Asics Aggies 28:52.37
8 59 Fasil Bizuneh Big Sur Dist 28:59.01
9 298 Chris Graff Asics 28:03.11
10 837 Jorge Torres Reebok NT
11 287 Patrick Gildea New York A C 28:39.49
12 448 Ryan Kirkpatrick U.S. Army 28:26.62
13 334 Jason Hartmann Boulder Perf 28:35.63
14 94 Daniel Browne Nike 28:27.71
15 437 Meb Keflezighi Nike 28:10.57
16 559 Josh Moen Hansons-Brooks 28:40.20
17 235 Anthony Famiglietti adidas 27:37.74
18 529 Joshua McDougal Liberty 28:49.79
19 206 Joe Driscoll Zap Fitness 28:37.97
20 1 Abdi Abdirahman Nike 27:22.81
21 221 Josh Eberly Hansons-Brooks 28:50.07
22 278 Jeffrey Gaudette Hansons-Brooks 28:47.18

http://www.usatf.org/events/2006/USAOutdoorTFChampionships/startLists/2006-06-22_open.asp

[Zat0pek]

I am a fan of moving up and testing those bounds

But if they were/are comitted to him being a 15 guy at least for 2-3 years, maybe, just maybe they could have looked at working his 800 side instead of at 10K?

Just a thought.

The 10K seems to have created all/most of the issues? No?

Raczko had some very telling comments about this in this months T&FN. He said the focus this year was on fast 1500/miles, then went on to talk about Webb's need to improve his 800, saying you have to be prepared to close the last 800 of an Oly 1500 in 1:46. He was then asked if that meant 800's for Webb this year and he said, no, they would focus on the 800 next year.

Again, this makes perfect sense.

Get the strength up in an "off" year like this, then capitalize on it next year and add the 800 work in a WC year and keep it all together going into Bejing.

I don't think the 10,000 "caused" this injury. Could be they didn't give him enough recovery, or it could be that his "transmission" (legs, neuromusclar system) wasn't ready for how strong his "engine" (his cardiovascular system, clearly in great shape by the 27:34) had become yet when he dropped down in distance.

[starsxburn]

man i have been saying this all year.

he runs 10k/5k to build up strength in the off year.

next year he runs 800/1500 to work on the low end.

this is a 4 year build up to the olympics.

[king99]

Please PM me..so I can get your number..sorry I deleted it by accident..so i can call ya later

[kingcoe]

Otis Harris is qualified and declared in the 400m.
Adam Steele is qualified and declared in the 800m.
Gabe Jennings is qualified and declared in the 1500m.
Leo Manzano is qualified and declared in the 1500m.
Bryan Berryhill is qualified and declared in the 1500m.
Luke Watson is qualified and declared in the 3000m steeple.

Some very interesting comebacks, new events and hopeful future stars . . .

[warrior09]

Who else hates kicker's races in the 800?

Hicks and JJ both don't qualify for the semis and Krumm is the last one in. This sucks!

[KS Roadrunna]

What sucks? Were they tripped, cheated, etc? The best guys made it thru.

[CGBatch]

Who else hates kicker's races in the 800?

Hicks and JJ both don't qualify for the semis and Krumm is the last one in. This sucks!

Yeah tactical 800s do suck especially for the first heat which has no idea what the other heats will do. But Hicks was considerably off. 5th in his heat .7 off the winner. That isn't all from kicking.

[kingcoe]

What sucks? Were they tripped, cheated, etc? The best guys made it thru.

What sucks is two of our top 800 runners will not be in our national championship race. I don't think that should be very hard to understand.

Its their fault for not making it through but the "best guys" did not make it through if Hicks and JJ did go through. Simply the top qualifiers from a slow heat went through which is fair and honest.

No complaints on the race, Hicks and JJ played with fire and got burned.

Good for the folks that made it. I hope the experience does them well.

Still definately sucks though. The final will be less without them.

[kingcoe]

1 Christopher Lukezic Reebok 3:38.84Q
2 Jon Rankin Nike 3:42.39Q
3 Bernard Lagat Nike 3:44.46Q
4 Rob Myers Reebok 3:38.86Q
5 Leonel Manzano Texas 3:42.74Q
6 Jason Lunn Nike 3:45.49Q
7 Gabriel Jennings unattached 3:39.89q
8 Adam Perkins Arkansas 3:40.56q
9 Aucencio Martinez unattached 3:40.85q
10 Christian Smith unattached 3:41.94q
11 Sean O'Brien The Farm Team, Inc. 3:42.79q
12 Blake Boldon unattached 3:44.03q

[Achilles]

Jennings, this is a good sign and a best as of late...no?

[papa46]

His best 1500m since 2001. Good for him.

[remiks]

Finals
1 Marion Jones unattached 11.10 -0.9
2 Lauryn Williams Nike 11.17 -0.9 (11.161)
3 Torri Edwards Nike 11.17 -0.9 (11.170)
4 Rachelle Boone-Smith Nike 11.21 -0.9
5 Muna Lee Nike 11.24 -0.9
6 Mikele Barber unattached 11.27 -0.9
7 Stephanie Durst Nike 11.29 -0.9
8 Shalonda Solomon South Carolina 11.41 -0.9

Finals
1 Justin Gatlin Nike 9.93 -1.2
2 Tyson Gay adidas 10.07 -1.2
3 Shawn Crawford Nike 10.26 -1.2
4 Jordan Vaden Nike 10.27 -1.2
5 Jason Smoots Nike 10.29 -1.2
6 Kaaron Conwright unattached 10.33 -1.2
7 Bernard Williams adidas 10.36 -1.2
8 Marcelle Scales Nike 10.43 -1.2

[king99]

Gabe..Gabe ..Gabe back at it and with a vengeance

Oh my 3:39 from where he was? Bicycling down in SA, come on ...guy has it. another year he may run his PR of 3;35, better than some think?

[kingcoe]

I hope it does mean something for Gabe. Its difficult to believe he has stuck with it this long. His hippie ideals (read don't need money here) definately have helped him I'm sure.

Very glad as well that Rankin, Myers and Lukezic all made the final. Nice top 8. Perkins has the slowest PR at 3:38. Were getting somewhere.

1 Christopher Lukezic Reebok 3:38.84Q
2 Jon Rankin Nike 3:42.39Q
3 Bernard Lagat Nike 3:44.46Q
4 Rob Myers Reebok 3:38.86Q
5 Leonel Manzano Texas 3:42.74Q
6 Jason Lunn Nike 3:45.49Q
7 Gabriel Jennings unattached 3:39.89q
8 Adam Perkins Arkansas 3:40.56q

[kingcoe]

Finals 5000
1 Bernard Lagat Nike 13:14.32
2 Matt Tegenkamp Nike 13:15.00
3 Dathan Ritzenhein Nike 13:16.61
4 Adam Goucher Nike 13:18.93
5 Sean Graham The Farm Team, Inc. 13:35.62
6 Edward Moran Nike 13:38.02
7 Andrew Carlson Asics 13:40.06
8 Ryan Hall Asics 13:40.55
9 Kyle King Zap Fitness 13:41.83
10 Ian Dobson adidas 13:43.08
11 Rod Koborsi unattached 13:44.35
12 Christopher Solinsky unattached 13:47.24

[Kostyu]

Tegenkamp

did he pr?

[KS Roadrunna]

Yep 10 seconds... I'd just like to remind everyone yet again.. I told ya so.

[daman]

Gabe..Gabe ..Gabe back at it and with a vengeance

Oh my 3:39 from where he was? Bicycling down in SA, come on ...guy has it. another year he may run his PR of 3;35, better than some think?Hey King, I gotta do this....

I remember last year, you dissed Mrr82 for simply noting Sage running a 3:40. But an older guy runs 3:39.89 and now you're excited?

I definitely think you judge younger runners more harshly. Jennings ran 3:35 6 years ago. It's great to see you cut him so much slack, but I wonder why you don't for others.

[starsxburn]

TEG is sick.

[herr]

Hey King, I gotta do this....

I remember last year, you dissed Mrr82 for simply noting Sage running a 3:40. But an older guy runs 3:39.89 and now you're excited?

I definitely think you judge younger runners more harshly. Jennings ran 3:35 6 years ago. It's great to see you cut him so much slack, but I wonder why you don't for others.

When did Sage ever run 3:35?

[Saint Ashlar]

Ritz PR'ed by 6 seconds too.

[CTsnapple]

Wow, that's a hell of a time for Teg, beating out some good guys as well.

Nice win for Torres in the 10k, hadn't heard too much from him lately. Anyone know what's up with the Abdi and McDougal DNF? How'd the race play out?

1 Jorge Torres Reebok 28:14.43
2 Meb Keflezighi Nike 28:18.74
3 Daniel Browne Nike 28:19.32
4 Anthony Famiglietti adidas 28:27.73
5 Jason Lehmkuhle Team Usa-Mn 28:44.14
6 Brandon Leslie Sports Warrior 28:50.12
7 Jason Hartmann Nike 29:03.30
8 Fernando Cabada Reebok 29:06.96
9 Stuart Eagon unattached 29:10.19
10 Fasil Bizuneh Big Sur Dist 29:11.91
11 Patrick Gildea New York A C 29:15.02
12 Josh Moen Hansons-Brooks 29:26.13
13 Joe Driscoll Zap Fitness 29:45.88
14 Edwardo Torres Reebok 29:49.46
15 Josh Eberly Hansons-Brooks 29:50.64
16 Jeffrey Gaudette Hansons-Brooks 30:11.12
17 Sergio Reyes Asics Aggies 30:47.60
-- Chris Graff Asics DNF
-- Joshua McDougal Liberty DNF
-- Ryan Kirkpatrick U.S. Army DNF
-- Abdi Abdirahman Nike DNF
-- Ryan Woods unattached DNS

[daman]

When did Sage ever run 3:35?He didn't, but the point was at that time Sage's 3:40 was the closest he'd run to his pr in a few years. Mrr pointed it out and got dissed. Gabe is still 4 seconds off his pr which was run much longer ago. I give credit for king acknowledging that but just wonder why he doesn't follow that thinking consistently.

[king99]

exactly, Herr gets it, Sage ran 3:39 as a frosh and never improved, should have moved up, did not, so be it.

Gabe, who I was never that huge a fan of his shuffling style , gets a kudo only because he was no where two years ago and has now made it back again , tha's all.

the ONLY reason you posted on this at all WAS because Sage was a York guy, he quit the sport , no biggie, Gabe has not.

[daman]

exactly, Herr gets it, Sage ran 3:39 as a frosh and never improved, should have moved up, did not, so be it.

Gabe, who I was never that huge a fan of his shuffling style , gets a kudo only because he was no where two years ago and has now made it back again , tha's all.

the ONLY reason you posted on this at all WAS because Sage was a York guy, he quit the sport , no biggie, Gabe has not.And Gabe never improved on his pr since 2000, and he did quit for a few years.

[kingcoe]

Plus Sage isn't a bicycle riding, Kenya training, getting chased by monkeys in the rainforest, classic quoting hippie Olympic Trials winning soul searcher!

[francois]

Wow, that's a hell of a time for Teg, beating out some good guys as well.

Nice win for Torres in the 10k, hadn't heard too much from him lately. Anyone know what's up with the Abdi and McDougal DNF? How'd the race play out?

1 Jorge Torres Reebok 28:14.43
2 Meb Keflezighi Nike 28:18.74
3 Daniel Browne Nike 28:19.32
4 Anthony Famiglietti adidas 28:27.73
5 Jason Lehmkuhle Team Usa-Mn 28:44.14
6 Brandon Leslie Sports Warrior 28:50.12
7 Jason Hartmann Nike 29:03.30
8 Fernando Cabada Reebok 29:06.96
9 Stuart Eagon unattached 29:10.19
10 Fasil Bizuneh Big Sur Dist 29:11.91
11 Patrick Gildea New York A C 29:15.02
12 Josh Moen Hansons-Brooks 29:26.13
13 Joe Driscoll Zap Fitness 29:45.88
14 Edwardo Torres Reebok 29:49.46
15 Josh Eberly Hansons-Brooks 29:50.64
16 Jeffrey Gaudette Hansons-Brooks 30:11.12
17 Sergio Reyes Asics Aggies 30:47.60
-- Chris Graff Asics DNF
-- Joshua McDougal Liberty DNF
-- Ryan Kirkpatrick U.S. Army DNF
-- Abdi Abdirahman Nike DNF
-- Ryan Woods unattached DNS


Abdi stepped off the track holding on to his upper right leg, either the quad or hammy, about 2/3 of the way through the race. As for McDougal, he just vanished, or atleast appeared to do so to me, one minute he was moving up well and getting into good position, the next he's no where to be found.

[CTsnapple]

Wow! How about 400h finals! BJ and KC are going to be lighting it up the next few years!

[Leftfielder]

Kerron is an awesome talent, but I have never seen him go over the last hurdle cleanly. When he does sub 47 will come!

[Track Dude]

I LOVED the way that the sound went "out" during the broadcast.
It made the race much more interesting . . . as you could tell from how the crowd was cheering . . . Congrats to Fleshman!

:cool:

[sharp.distance.]

Khadevis Robinson 1:44.14 800m :eek:

[billgull]

Men 1500 Meter Run
================================================== =============
World: W 3:26.00 7/7/1998 Hicham El Guerrouj, MAR
American: A 3:29.30 8/28/2005 Bernard Lagat, Nike
Meet: M 3:34.92 6/20/1982 Steve Scott, Sub 4 TC
Name Year Team Finals
================================================== =============
Finals
1 Bernard Lagat Nike 3:39.29
2 Gabriel Jennings unattached 3:39.42
3 Leonel Manzano Texas 3:39.49
4 Christopher Lukezic Reebok 3:40.37
5 Christian Smith unattached 3:40.65
6 Rob Myers Reebok 3:40.90
7 Aucencio Martinez unattached 3:40.91
8 Jason Lunn Nike 3:41.27
9 Adam Perkins Arkansas 3:43.06
10 Blake Boldon unattached 3:44.83
11 Sean O'Brien The Farm Team, Inc. 3:46.24
-- Jon Rankin Nike DNS

[honkforcookies]

http://graphics.jsonline.com/graphics/sports/gen/img/jun03/gabe617.jpg

[Track Dude]

Finals

1 Hazel Clark Nike 1:59.94
2 Alice Schmidt adidas 2:00.00
3 Frances Santin S M T C 2:01.15
4 Alysia Johnson California 2:01.80
5 Krista Ferrara The Farm Team, Inc. 2:02.49
6 Erin Donohue Nike 2:02.87
7 Nikeya Green Reebok 2:03.24
8 Leslie Treherne Tennessee 2:03.38


The 4th place finisher, Alysia Johnson placed 3rd at NC's just two weeks ago in 2:03.04
Another great PR for the Cal sophomore!

:cool:

[remiks]

Finals
1 Wallace Spearmon Nike 19.90 0.3
2 Jordan Vaden Nike 19.98 0.3
3 Rodney Martin Nike 20.14 0.3
4 Kelly Willie L S U 20.24 0.3
5 Jeremy Wariner adidas 20.24 0.3
6 Chris Berrian unattached 20.40 0.3
7 Leroy Dixon South Carolina 20.44 0.3
8 Rubin Williams unattached 20.57 0.3

Great times for Spearmon and Vaden. The fastest I can find on him (Vaden) before this weekend is a 20.42.

[bdaniels]

http://graphics.jsonline.com/graphics/sports/gen/img/jun03/gabe617.jpg

10/10:cool:

bd

[bdaniels]

Men 1500 Meter Run
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World: W 3:26.00 7/7/1998 Hicham El Guerrouj, MAR
American: A 3:29.30 8/28/2005 Bernard Lagat, Nike
Meet: M 3:34.92 6/20/1982 Steve Scott, Sub 4 TC
Name Year Team Finals
================================================== =============
Finals
1 Bernard Lagat Nike 3:39.29
2 Gabriel Jennings unattached 3:39.42
3 Leonel Manzano Texas 3:39.49
4 Christopher Lukezic Reebok 3:40.37
5 Christian Smith unattached 3:40.65
6 Rob Myers Reebok 3:40.90
7 Aucencio Martinez unattached 3:40.91
8 Jason Lunn Nike 3:41.27
9 Adam Perkins Arkansas 3:43.06
10 Blake Boldon unattached 3:44.83
11 Sean O'Brien The Farm Team, Inc. 3:46.24
-- Jon Rankin Nike DNS

I just talked to Perkins about the race on the phone, and he was actaully on his cool down with his cell phone. He said:


Splits for him and the front group were - :60, 1:59, 2:59, ...

At the beginning, Adam stayed right behind Lagat. Then, he decided to take over the race and lead for a while. I think he said he held the lead even with 175m to go, but he tightened up near the very end and got passed by Lagat, et al.

He said it was a very thrilling race, so I wish I would've seen it. But, they stopped airing it on TV because of the rain delay.

bd

[king99]

they did cut in during pitching change to show 200 final..better job there.

Spearmon after truely looking ragged in semi, comes up big yet again.Flying last 60M +

[fasterthanu]

they did cut in during pitching change to show 200 final..better job there.

Spearmon after truely looking ragged in semi, comes up big yet again.Flying last 60M +
wtf they did damnit vid any one wow now im so pissed

[Ecliptica]

What the hell happened to Wariner in the 200m final?

Nothing happened, he damn near ran a PR.

[xcrunna]

Khadevis Robinson 1:44.14 800m :eek:
Wire to wire victory, I was mighty impressed. From the interview, it sounded like he's been busting his tail working on his strength, and running the way he did- 51.1-53.0 maintaining his form all the way it's definitely paying off. Smooth at the end, and absolutely no fear from the get-go. Outclassed the whole field, probably the most definitive victory on the men's side up there with Lagat in the 5000 and Gatlin in the 100.

[Junker23]

wtf they did damnit vid any one wow now im so pissed
As am I, if I had known they were going to do that I would have kept the game on. Vid will turn up somewhere eventually.

[DCsoloRunner]

probably the most definitive victory on the men's side up there with Lagat in the 5000 and Gatlin in the 100.
It was that definitive, He wasn't even leading with 200 to go.

Looks like Leo peaked too late. And did anybody else really like the way Rock looked! He's one of those easy to root for kind of guys.

[xcrunna]

It was that definitive, He wasn't even leading with 200 to go.

Yeah, I was a little off on that looking back. I thought he won by more than he did. He did win kinda comfortably, but it wasn't that definitive. I'm not doing too well on my USATF comments so far haha.

[DCsoloRunner]

Yeah, I was a little off on that looking back. I thought he won by more than he did. He did win kinda comfortably, but it wasn't that definitive. I'm not doing too well on my USATF comments so far haha.
that's alright, I knew what you meant, with 200 to go when he took the lead he looked oftly comfortable........on the other end of the spectrum of Goucher.:(

[Track Dude]

Yeah, I was a little off on that looking back. I thought he won by more than he did. He did win kinda comfortably, but it wasn't that definitive. I'm not doing too well on my USATF comments so far haha.

:D

Don't worry about it.
We are all just a bunch of crazy, passionate, T&F fans!
Great season!!!

[fasterthanu]

any one find it funny that kd(khadevis)sp? didnt even answer the commentators question about upcoming meets he went on to talk about his coach hahaha

[xcrunna]

His performances in the rounds were MUCH better than he performed in the final. I don't think anyone can argue with that, especially compared to how easy he ran the semi and easing up
Well I think we can all agree that his performances reveal he doesn't have enough speed for the 4, and that he should be moving up to the 8 ;) .
Seriously, I think he did very well in the 200 as a collectively. 200m Finals were not his best performance, but overall he ran some 200m times that are excellent for a 400m guy. Anybody found a video of the 200 btw?