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Levyfan
06-26-2006, 01:50 PM
So I was looking through SI.com's USATF Champs photo gallery, and came across this gem. Read the caption: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/multimedia/photo_gallery/0606/gallery.trackchampionships/content.7.html
Yeah, pretty fast time indeed.
Saint Ashlar
06-26-2006, 01:56 PM
Wow. :eek:
PurpleHaze
06-26-2006, 02:41 PM
That's pretty fast.
aidan
06-26-2006, 02:52 PM
Does that beat MJ??? YES... but NO
runnerguy
06-26-2006, 03:27 PM
So what percentage of the population do you think noticed the error?
HurdlesRock
06-26-2006, 03:47 PM
hopefully 100% probably 35%
jacksparrow34313
06-26-2006, 03:51 PM
I think more than 35% would notice the error. How many people who don't know anything about track are going to be flipping through the track photo gallery? Besides, I think most sports fans know enough to be a bit suspicious.
Ha. I doubt whether 35 p.c. would even read to the end of most photo captions. They are looking at pictures, not reading for comprehension.
Of those who did read the last line, probably fewer than half even registered the time to the degree that they could recall it five seconds later.
Of those who did register the time, I'll bet not even ten per cent realized how ridiculously fast it is.
So that adds up to less than ten per cent of less than 50 p.c. of less than 35 p.c.... Which would be less than 1.7 per cent. Maybe way less than 1.7 per cent.
Heck, I bet the people posting to this thread constitute a substantial proportion of all the people in the universe who 1) read the entire caption; 2) registered the time; 3) realized that it's a mistake; and 4) care. ;)
runneronfire
06-26-2006, 08:52 PM
Ha. I doubt whether 35 p.c. would even read to the end of most photo captions. They are looking at pictures, not reading for comprehension.
Of those who did read the last line, probably fewer than half even registered the time to the degree that they could recall it five seconds later.
Of those who did register the time, I'll bet not even ten per cent realized how ridiculously fast it is.
So that adds up to less than ten per cent of less than 50 p.c. of less than 35 p.c.... Which would be less than 1.7 per cent. Maybe way less than 1.7 per cent.
Heck, I bet the people posting to this thread constitute a substantial proportion of all the people in the universe who 1) read the entire caption; 2) registered the time; 3) realized that it's a mistake; and 4) care. ;)
Ha, very true.
king99
06-26-2006, 09:30 PM
I wonder how many like me when told of MJ 19.32 thought they were CLEARY misinformed by a friend who doesn;t know or watch track!! I said "you must have been mistaken" I did NOt see it live.
king99
06-26-2006, 09:31 PM
Really GOOD sprinters are Not within .5x of this almost all the time.
homeless
06-27-2006, 05:11 AM
I wonder how many like me when told of MJ 19.32 thought they were CLEARY misinformed by a friend who doesn;t know or watch track!! I said "you must have been mistaken" I did NOt see it live.
absolutely
I didn't see it live and even when my father (a knowledgable track NUT his whole life) told me I argued with him..."ummmm, I think you may have gotten something mixed up bud, are you sure the announcers didn't screw something up again...?" took a week for it to sink in even after I saw it myself...
dossMVC
06-27-2006, 09:20 AM
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2653548619713410661&q=Michael+Johnson+200
here's the video...pretty amazing
homeless
06-27-2006, 09:41 AM
thanks for the vid, haven't seen it in a while...
man amongst boys...albeit very fast boys
his reaction is great too
Cocca
06-27-2006, 05:33 PM
What makes this race amazing is that the second fastest time ever in the 200 was second place, I rare gimpse about what number 1 all time vs. number 2 all time looks like.
Marrow2000
06-28-2006, 11:48 AM
It says 19.90... I don't get what's so weird..??
It says 19.90... I don't get what's so weird..??
It had been corrected when I went back there yesterday. Somebody must've noticed.
Or SI reads Dyestat.
JustRun07
06-28-2006, 04:45 PM
what did it originally say?
starsxburn
06-28-2006, 04:58 PM
19.11 or 19.10.
What did it used to say because apparently they fixed whatever was wrong with it.
Nevermind
homeless
06-28-2006, 06:38 PM
yeah, it said 19.10
runneronfire
06-28-2006, 07:46 PM
What makes this race amazing is that the second fastest time ever in the 200 was second place, I rare gimpse about what number 1 all time vs. number 2 all time looks like.
Same with El Guerrouj's mile world record. Second place might not have been #2 all time, but I'm pretty sure it was 3:43 high or 3:44 low.
By the way, those announcers were incredibly mundane. If I'd just seen that race I would be yelling and screaming. They seemed to get mildly excited, but damn, they were low key.
Junker23
06-28-2006, 07:54 PM
What makes this race amazing is that the second fastest time ever in the 200 was second place, I rare gimpse about what number 1 all time vs. number 2 all time looks like.
I didn't know that, and I always wondered why Johnson wasn't ridiculously far ahead of the field. That would explain it.
xcrunna
06-28-2006, 09:13 PM
Same with El Guerrouj's mile world record. Second place might not have been #2 all time, but I'm pretty sure it was 3:43 high or 3:44 low.
Noah Ngeny is #2 AT in the Mile by quite a bit. He ran 3:43.40 in the same race that El-G set the WR and was well under the old WR and probably scared the crap out of El-G in the process. El G(3:26 1500) vs. Seb Coe(2:12.x ex WR in 1000) vs. Ngeny(2:11.96 WR in the 1000) in a 1200 would be the race I'd probably pay the most to see(well, aside from Gatlin vs. Powell). Also, throw in Kipketer for the hell of it because of that amazing 800 speed.
MaroonCat1600
06-28-2006, 09:26 PM
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2653548619713410661&q=Michael+Johnson+200
here's the video...pretty amazing
i dont mean to be rascist but what was the time of that white guy , :p
BisonHurdler
06-28-2006, 11:33 PM
What makes this race amazing is that the second fastest time ever in the 200 was second place, I rare gimpse about what number 1 all time vs. number 2 all time looks like.
Third fastest, actually.
Sebrle
06-29-2006, 01:32 AM
The best way to watch this race is compare MJ to 4th place which was Obadele Thompson at 20.14, which is faster than Jeremy Wariner on his best day with less of a wind.
captrackxc
06-29-2006, 02:32 AM
also when paul tergat set the marathon WR the secondplace guy had the second fastest time ever.
Noah Ngeny is #2 AT in the Mile by quite a bit. He ran 3:43.40 in the same race that El-G set the WR and was well under the old WR and probably scared the crap out of El-G in the process. El G(3:26 1500) vs. Seb Coe(2:12.x ex WR in 1000) vs. Ngeny(2:11.96 WR in the 1000) in a 1200 would be the race I'd probably pay the most to see(well, aside from Gatlin vs. Powell). Also, throw in Kipketer for the hell of it because of that amazing 800 speed.
+Komen
Cocca
06-29-2006, 09:21 PM
Third fastest, actually.
I am mistaken. What is the second then? I can't believe I missed that.
Junker23
06-29-2006, 09:29 PM
I am mistaken. What is the second then? I can't believe I missed that.
Hmm, I guess Wikipedia (my source for everything) is wrong!!!
This article (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/200_metres) about the 200m says Fredericks' time is the 2nd fastest time ever.
1. 19.32 Michael Johnson USA 1 August 1996 Atlanta ** WR **
2. 19.68 Frank Fredericks NAM 1 August 1996 Atlanta
3. 19.72 Pietro Mennea ITA 12 September 1979 Mexico City
That's the only place I've been able to find more than just the WR, so I have no clue what the other time is.
Sebrle
06-29-2006, 09:37 PM
Hmm, I guess Wikipedia (my source for everything) is wrong!!!
This article (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/200_metres) about the 200m says Fredericks' time is the 2nd fastest time ever.
1. 19.32 Michael Johnson USA 1 August 1996 Atlanta ** WR **
2. 19.68 Frank Fredericks NAM 1 August 1996 Atlanta
3. 19.72 Pietro Mennea ITA 12 September 1979 Mexico City
That's the only place I've been able to find more than just the WR, so I have no clue what the other time is.
MJ ran 19.66 at the Olympic trials that year.
BisonHurdler
06-30-2006, 10:41 AM
MJ ran 19.66 at the Olympic trials that year.
Yup. Frankie is the second fastest PERFORMER all-time with the third fastest PERFORMANCE of all time.
Cocca
06-30-2006, 09:29 PM
AHHH ok, got mixed up, thank you everyone.
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