WEBB 3:46 (1500m) [Archive] - dyestat.com Track Talk

Antonio/Mc

07-01-2006, 08:44 PM

1500 meter AC M Time:21:03
Heat:1
1 198 Winter Bob 77 NED 3:41.02
2 102 Liefers Gert Jan 76 NED 3:41.58
3 969 Clerbout Tim 81 LAT 3:42.20
4 199 Tasama Fayisa Dame 87 ETH 3:42.82
5 47 Licht Dennis 84 NED 3:42.86
6 49 Hall Ryan 82 USA 3:43.90
7 402 Oddo Gauthier 87 3:44.52
8 48 Eefting Bas 82 NED 3:44.92
9 1429 Jallouli Tarik* 78 ATLE 3:45.00
10 62 O'brien Trevor 00 CAN 3:45.16
11 60 Dobson Ian 82 USA 3:45.61
12 28 Webb Alan 83 USA 3:46.14
13 278 Grothaus Thorben 84 GER 3:46.53
14 1294 Busselot Dries 83 OEH 3:46.55
15 371 Uliczka Steffen 84 GER 3:46.94
16 401 Veilleroy Thomas 84 FRA 3:47.61
17 99 Mandour Abdelkbir 78 FRA 3:51.01
50 Loschner Michiel 76 NED DNF
197 Ntahokaraja Pascal 84 BDI DNF

oh no, Webb is reverting back to 2003 form.

The wacky career of Webb continues to amaze.

AnchorMan

07-01-2006, 08:46 PM

12 28 Webb Alan 83 USA 3:46.14

ouch....

bravesfanatic4

07-01-2006, 08:46 PM

Is he fully recovered?

Sum_Bum

07-01-2006, 08:54 PM

He should race AJ and get pwned.

PurpleHaze

07-01-2006, 09:00 PM

I was thinking the same thing.

kingcoe

07-01-2006, 10:10 PM

Maybe it was a tempo run. If he could hold that pace for another 1500m he could compete in an elite 3000m.

3:46 + 3:46 = 7:32

Makes you realize how crazy Komen's 7:20 for 3K is . . . .

Even if Webb can't regain form this year (and there is still plenty of time so let's not write him off yet!) he still has that 10K under his belt and 2 more years before heading to Asia!!!

bravesfanatic4

07-01-2006, 10:13 PM

Even if Webb can't regain form this year (and there is still plenty of time so let's not write him off yet!) he still has that 10K under his belt and 2 more years before heading to Asia!!!
In which he will be running the... (choose: 1500, 5000, or Webb sucks he won't make it option.)

ZackCampbell

07-01-2006, 10:24 PM

In before that nutjob once again says that hes going to break the WR.

wilson

07-01-2006, 10:31 PM

There are no excuses for a performance like that. I realllllllly hope this does not continue.

bravesfanatic4

07-01-2006, 10:33 PM

Was it tactical at all?

wilson

07-01-2006, 10:37 PM

Was it tactical at all?
Non-championship races very rarely become tactical, unless maybe there was no rabbit? Does anybody know?

Swoosh13

07-01-2006, 10:41 PM

even if it was tactical there is no excuse for him losing by 5 seconds

bravesfanatic4

07-01-2006, 10:51 PM

even if it was tactical there is no excuse for him losing by 5 seconds
Yeah, especially with his kick... and I guess the times really don't show that it was tactical. He better return to form soon.

cnick

07-01-2006, 11:00 PM

Give him time...

Kniteryder

07-01-2006, 11:46 PM

no one knows what tactics were run....at any rate...if he is continuously hurting or sick..shut him down and figure it out 1st!

Rick Revras

07-02-2006, 11:09 AM

Give him time...

Three races is enough time.

DCsoloRunner

07-02-2006, 12:43 PM

I don't even think saying it was tactical could be an excuse, tactical for him should be sub 3.40. Samuel Borchers>Alan Webb.

WIrunningman07

07-02-2006, 02:45 PM

even if it was tactical there is no excuse for him losing by 5 seconds
So Alan Webb can't feel like a complete bag of s*** in a race...:confused:

Andrew Carey

07-02-2006, 03:01 PM

There are no excuses for a performance like that. I realllllllly hope this does not continue.

What the **** does he owe you?

cmurph

07-02-2006, 03:17 PM

no one knows what tactics were run....at any rate...if he is continuously hurting or sick..shut him down and figure it out 1st!

Yeah, he's run three 3 bad races since his 10k debut. I think he needs to take time off racing and get himself together again.

starsxburn

07-02-2006, 03:38 PM

alan webb has also been known to shut it down during a race when he knows he is not in it.

he has run very mediocre races when mentally shutting down during the middle.

so this could also be another example.
look at the winning time.
3:41 he could have sat in on the first two laps and realized that no one was going to take it out and it wasn't going to be fast and he just quit trying.

this was one of those races that if he didn't win it isn't going to make a huge difference.
now if he does this in a golden league meet we might should worry.
until then no big deal.

Rick Revras

07-02-2006, 04:59 PM

Looking at the hard evidence, he just bombed again. 5 seconds off a win in a 1500? Maybe the closed too fast for him, maybe he fell, maybe a lot of things happened, either way, he did not run very fast, which he could have changed. Either he's a mental wreck or he's not responding well (if at all) to the recent increase in mileage/workload.

wilson

07-02-2006, 07:10 PM

What the **** does he owe you?
Nothing? I would just like to see him succeed. Which I am pretty sure goes for everybody else here too.

Anthony

07-02-2006, 07:51 PM

3:46? Wow, he should just quit track. He has no talent, he gives up, he hasn't won an Olympic gold medal, and he's not doing well after being injured and running in an off-year.

Puh-leeeese.

CTsnapple

07-02-2006, 08:50 PM

Hall still doesn't top his HS time, Dobson at 3:45, seems like not a lot of guys ran well.

Webb has plenty of time. It's a non-championship year, if Webb is going to have an off-year it might as well be this one, even though there are still plenty of big meets left this year to turn it around.

CHUCK Palahniuk

07-02-2006, 08:55 PM

Webb will be better when it counts. He had a great season last year. The miracle mile in Oslo blew me away.

maineXCrunner16

07-02-2006, 09:31 PM

It is funny because at first I didn't realize this was in the Elite section, and I thought "sweet Tom Webb ran a wicked fast time." But then I realized it was elite and it was actually about Alan Webb.

People need to remember it maybe hard for him just to shut it down and stop racing. He has obligations to his sponsers.

watchout

07-02-2006, 10:43 PM

oh no, Webb is reverting back to 2003 form.

I mentioned that to someone after his Prefontaine performance ...

but, the way I see it, it could be cyclical (I'm optimistic). He'll be back better than ever in time for Beijing Olympics, it'll be his next break-out year. As long as he sticks with it ...

sub-3:30/13:00 ?

jacksparrow34313

07-02-2006, 11:18 PM

Originally Posted by watchout
mentioned that to someone after his Prefontaine performance ...

but, the way I see it, it could be cyclical (I'm optimistic). He'll be back better than ever in time for Beijing Olympics, it'll be his next break-out year. As long as he sticks with it ...

sub-3:30/13:00 ?
You left out getting knocked out in the first round.

JK, I like Webb, hope he comes out of this quick, and returns to top form, at the moment I'm really worried about him.

theoberman

07-03-2006, 09:05 AM

It's Crazy because his high school time was 3:38 for 1500 en route to his 3:53 mile. I think he just needs some time to become focused. He hasn't done well since his great 10,000m, especially at pre classic. I think he just needs some dwon time.

Darkman

07-03-2006, 03:37 PM

His last god race was the 10k he has been aweful since then running 833 401 and now 346 just has not been able to perform

Dragonsoul

07-05-2006, 11:18 PM

Webb has slight trouble right now, but I am confident that he will return to top form later in this season. I don't know how the race played out, but maybe he fell, or had an injury during the race. If not, then I wonder what is happening. There is no need to be harsh to Webb, these types of situations happen to everybody. Good luck to Alan Webb! :D

Schedule...
Paris 5000m
Rome 1500m
Stockholm 1500m
London 5000m

Zurich, Brussels, Rieti, 5th Avenue Mile, and more!

jambo656

07-10-2006, 02:53 PM

He seems to get a little hurt somewhere or come down with the sniffles, and that devastates his entire season. He won't recuperate this year and can only hope to get back to 90%. Kinda like a stock that takes a beating in the market and comes back, only to recoup the losses but not to make actual progress. He's done.

Jolly Farm

07-10-2006, 03:11 PM

Dragonsoul

07-10-2006, 06:58 PM

Webb had a dnf in the Paris 5k on July 8th.

Combined with his 3:46 race in Belgium last week, this makes me think that the problem with these 2 races was not a fall or a major injury problem during the race. I am compelled to believe that the problem was a fitness problem that resulted from his injury a month ago and his time off. This makes me wonder though why he is racing when he maybe should be training and regaining his fitness. I have been known to make similar mistakes in the past like this.

Maybe it would have been better for him to skip the Belgium, Paris, and upcoming Rome races, and focus on the later Stockholm and London races? Or ... skip Stockholm and London also, and just wait for Zurich?

What are your thoughts on this? I'm waiting for the Rome 1500m startlists to come out, to see if Webb is still entered. Good luck to Alan! :D

freddy 459

07-11-2006, 12:01 AM

alan webb has also been known to shut it down during a race when he knows he is not in it.
ex- Bowerman Mile at the Pre Classic (this year)

RunningHI

07-11-2006, 12:28 AM

good job ryan hall.

LikeMaugal

07-11-2006, 12:31 AM

i heard alan webb killed a guy with a trident,
hes laying low for a while,
because he's probably wanted for murder.

Achilles

07-11-2006, 01:53 AM

ex- Bowerman Mile at the Pre Classic (this year)

you do know that is where he hurt his hamstring a little and forced him to take some time off right?

Im pretty sure the Pre meet is one of the two or three meets Webb runs in that he doesnt want to just "mail" it in. when have you ever ACTUALLY seen him do that?

Just cause he ran 3:46 doesnt mean he mailed it in. He obviously isnt in good shape right now for whatever reason and might not be mailing it in, he might be going for it and not having good results because he isnt in shape.

Webb has run personal bests at pre three times i believe, HSR, 3:50 high mile and then the 8:11...i believe all at that meet. That meet has a star next to it on his calender every year

Get a clue

CampoXC rep

07-11-2006, 03:09 AM

Dragonsoul

07-11-2006, 06:09 PM

I went to the website for the July 8th Golden Gala meet in Rome, to see if the startlists are out yet, to see if Alan Webb is still entered in the 1500m. The "startlists" were finally out, but it said they were the June 23rd startlists! That's outdated, Alan Webb is on the list, but he might have pulled out since then, so I don't know. www.goldengala.it is the website, I'll check back soon maybe.