Wickham Invitational!

[polyxc]

Who is running at Wickham?

Will the Glastonbury, Danbury, and Xavier Boys finally face off?

[polyxc]

Will Lyman Memorial and Glastonbury get to run an Invitational on a course that is well enough marked that they can concentrate on racing?

[skeets_800m]

The entries for each race are listed on the Northeast Sports timing site.

[polyxc]

http://www.nesportstiming.com/

thanks!

[polyxc]

No Danbury, Xavier, Darien, Guilford, Ridgefield.


Top teams on paper

1. Glastonbury
4. Newtown
5. NFA
6. Griswold
7. New Milford
8. Conard
9. Amity Regional
11 Simsbury High
13 Woodstock Acad
15 Southington


Teams Alphabetically:

Amity Regional
Conard
Glastonbury HS
Griswold
Lyman Memorial
Manchester
Naugatuck
New Milford
Newtown
NFA
NOTRE DAME W.H.
Shelton High Sc
Simsbury High
Southington
Wilcox Tech
Wilcox Tech
Woodstock Acad

[polyxc]

No Ridgefield, Guilford, E. O. Smith, Wilton, Darien

1. Lyman Memorial
2. Glastonbury
6. Simsbury
7. Cheshire
8. Griswold
9. Portland
10 West Hartford - William Hall
12 Conard
13 Amity
14 Darien
15 Newtown

[Crazy]

Aw crap, we're running that =(

[PT]

In my opinion Simsbury and Southington are very closley matched. Southington won the duel by 1 point, while Simsbury beat Southington by 1 in the Stratton Brook Invite.

[breng77]

At the moment, I'll take Glastonbury to win, then a tight battle for second between Newtown, NFA, and New Milford

[proud dad]

http://www.nesportstiming.com/

thanks!
The unseeded girl's race has 435 entries. Has Wickham ever hosted a race this large? Are they likely to move some teams around before Saturday since the Champion's race is actually on the small side. If 435 are going to be on the line, that is something I must see.

[polyxc]

After favorite Glastonbury, It's going to be a donnybrook!


Top teams on paper:

1. Glastonbury

4. Newtown
5. NFA
6. Griswold
7. New Milford
8. Conard
9. Amity Regional
11 Simsbury High
13 Woodstock Acad
15 Southington

[longdistance55]

quick update on wickham... a few of my old athletes have run on the course and said that you're basically running on an angle for parts... bring ankle braces!

[ima_runner]

i agree, glastonbury has a good shot at winning.. however manchester beat simsbury earlier in the week, and are all the lyman girls still running? sorrell was missing saturday

[xcdiva1784]

i agree, glastonbury has a good shot at winning.. however manchester beat simsbury earlier in the week, and are all the lyman girls still running? sorrell was missing saturday

It sounds like Sorrell was out due to illness at Greater Hartford

[eaglevision666]

Good Luck at Wickham today whoever is running!:)

[polyxc]

results?

[fourdegrees8924]

boys seeded

1. Hall
2. Newington :D
3. Thomaston
4. Portland

[eaglevision666]

boys seeded

1. Hall:D :D
2. Newington :D =good job pilz and krusell
3. Thomaston
4. Portland


OH YEAH!!!! times also seemed a bit slower so i was wrong in some other post in other threads...whatever im still happy

[fourdegrees8924]

OH YEAH!!!! times also seemed a bit slower so i was wrong in some other post in other threads...whatever im still happy

thanks,,,you and hack, and your whole team for that matter were great...5 in the top 50 is diesel....you guys never came by for the cool down with us! Oh well, we had to get out of there anyways...and yes, the course is MUCH slower (but I like it A LOT better)

[Whats My Distance Again?]

Glastonbury!!! Rock on boys!
Newtown
NFA


... wasn't even close.

1. Cabral
2. Judd
3. Dugger

[XCforJC]

Championship Girls

1. Lyman (95)
2. G*bury (108)

[xavierbeatsyou]

Glastonbury!!! Rock on boys!
Newtown
NFA


... wasn't even close.

1. Cabral
2. Judd
3. Dugger

It was Glastonbury, NFA, New Milford, Newtown, and then I want to say either Amity or Conard

[Whats My Distance Again?]

It was Glastonbury, NFA, New Milford, Newtown, and then I want to say either Amity or Conard

Very sorry, my bad. I just went by what I was told by some of the guys on the team. Yay innacuracies on my first time speaking up here.

[jacksparrow34313]

It was Glastonbury, NFA, New Milford, Newtown, and then I want to say either Amity or Conard
QFE on top 4, not sure after that. Glastonbury had 41 points, and as the previous poster said, it wasn't very close. I didn't hear official times for the leaders, but I had Cabral at about 15:58, Dugger was 3rd, followed by Dan D. then another 2 Glastonbury guys were between him and the next NM runner. NFA had like 80 something, NM was 10 behind them, I think, and Newtown at about 115. Only big surprise for me was NFA. I figured Glastonbury would win easy, and thought NM would be ahead of Newtown, but NFA I was not expecting to run so well. Good job to them.

[xavierbeatsyou]

QFE on top 4, not sure after that. Glastonbury had 41 points, and as the previous poster said, it wasn't very close. I didn't hear official times for the leaders, but I had Cabral at about 15:58, Dugger was 3rd, followed by Dan D. then another 2 Glastonbury guys were between him and the next NM runner. NFA had like 80 something, NM was 10 behind them, I think, and Newtown at about 115. Only big surprise for me was NFA. I figured Glastonbury would win easy, and thought NM would be ahead of Newtown, but NFA I was not expecting to run so well. Good job to them.

ya I was surprised by how well NFA ran today I think I'm deffintly going to take note of them in the future because I haven't seen any meets they ran before this

[xavierbeatsyou]

1. Glastonbury HS
1 3 8 9 20 (58) (69) = 41
Donn Cabral , Robbie Dugger , James Llamas , Chris Klobedanz , Cody Otto ,
BLAKE SUMMERS , Brian Robertson
2. NFA
5 10 11 25 38 (44) (70) = 89
Luke Albertson , Jason Wagner , Craig Babcock , Anthony Marceau , Mike
Miner , Andrew Cardin , Kevin Liang
3. New Milford
4 17 18 21 37 (51) (54) = 97
Dan DeCrescenzo , Mike Viklund , Dan Watson , Anthony Vento , Ryan Cheng ,
Craig Hunt , Kyle Anderson
4. Newtown
7 12 22 29 42 (78) (98) = 112
Zack Schwartz , Charlie Baldour , Eric Macknight , Kevin Hoyt , Scott
Nichols , Jordan Reed , KEVIN DONAHUE
5. Amity Regional
6 14 31 34 35 (87) (88) = 120
Wesley Halstead , Paul Kichar , Adam Trofa , Joseph Greenspun , Daniel
Rothberg , AARON DI PETRO , Asher Brandt
6. Manchester
13 26 47 48 50 (68) (73) = 184
Colby Welch , Will Edgington , Dave Krinjak , Tyler Gauruder , Alex
Johnson , Connor Malick , MARTY EDGINGTON
7. Conard
2 36 41 45 61 (71) (96) = 185
Andrew Judd , Will Sennett , Jeremy Goldenberg , Conor Wilson , Dan Gilles ,
Jeff Kalbacher , Stephen Burger
8. Griswold
16 33 39 55 59 (67) (85) = 202
Tim Rosenbaum , Jason Cusack , Andrew Orum , Erik Chester , Randy Evans ,
Kevin Nourie , Kyle Norton
9. Simsbury High
28 32 56 60 65 (76) (77) = 241
Jon Verrengia , Bryan Crowley , John Carpenter , Brian Keefe , Rohan
Shertukde , Sean Callahan , ERIC FISCHER
10. Southington
23 24 43 75 81 (83) (90) = 246
James Rosenberger , Josh Debner , Pat Summa , Alex Duffy , Wade DePalma ,
PAT TUREK , Holland Florian

[breng77]

My take
Glastonbury 41 (wow!! they are a good if not better than advertised went 1,3,8,9,21 with individuals removed from scoring, Cabral 15:58, Dugger 16:37, LLams and Klobedanz about 17 or a little under, and Otto 17:15ish)
NFA 89(Better than I expected them to be, I was not really that impressed by their results up until now, but they came through big Their top runner was 5th at 16:40, then they had 2 more runners at 10 and 11 then went 25 and 38, those top 3 gave them the edge they needed to beat NM)
NM 97 (about what I expected from them Dan D. 16:39 was 3rd untill getting out kicked by Dugger at the finish to finish 4th, then they went 18, 19, 22 with Viklund, Watson and Vento all at about 17:15, then had a drop off to #5 Cheng at 16:38)
Newtown 112 (I was a little surpised that they did not do better here, Schwartz was 7th I think at 16:51, Baldour was 13th, then Macknight was 23rd and they had significant drop off after that thier #5 was 42, I think they are still a dangerous team since they have peaked well before. Also, Morrisey returned to run 4th in the JV 2 race in about 18:25)
Amity 120ish
Conard Judd was second not sure of the time though I think like 16:10 or so
Beyond that I'm not sure but Griswold was 8th in the Championship race.
The course was very slow, obviously long for the girls, and possibly for the boys as well.
Championship race results are up
http://www.nesportstiming.com/results/bchamp.txt

[fourdegrees8924]

Newtown 112 (I was a little surpised that they did not do better here, Schartz


hahaha I'm pretty sure there's a W in there somewhere :D

[breng77]

oops fast typing is not my friend

[connecticut]

Does anyone have any take on what it woulda bean like if danbury and xavier ran.

[breng77]

At this point, I am not really sure I would say Danbury would have been 2nd with Xavier battling for third with NFA

[connecticut]

Amity went out and tried to hang on. I give them allot of credit because they raced with heart, you could tell they were all running @ 110%. Cory ***an had a over night at a college in New York. Overall we got the job done!
1. Adam vess
2. Wesley Halstead
3. Matt Fahey
4. Forrest Misenti
5. Pete Shafer
6. Amity
7. Amity
8. Amity
9. Amity
10. Hurtt
11. Hammond
12. Roberts

x= 23
A= 31

Theirs some info i found their on where xavier stands with amity earlier in the week. i think danbury woulda won,

[polyxc]

Was Wickham slower than last year?


Championshp Race

1 Donn Cabral 16 Glastonbury HS 15:58 5:09
2 Andrew Judd 12 Conard 16:27 5:19
3 Robbie Dugger 17 Glastonbury HS 16:35 5:21
4 Dan DeCrescenzo 53 New Milford 16:39 5:22
5 Luke Albertson 65 NFA 16:40 5:23
6 Wesley Halstead 4 Amity Regional 16:45 5:24
7 Zack Schwartz 64 Newtown 16:51 5:26
8 Anthony Colabella 8 CheshireAcademy 16:51 5:27
9 James Llamas 20 Glastonbury HS 16:52 5:27
10 Chris Klobedanz 19 Glastonbury HS 16:54 5:27
11 Jason Wagner 71 NFA 16:56 5:28
12 Craig Babcock 66 NFA 17:05 5:31
13 Charlie Baldour 58 Newtown 17:06 5:31
14 Colby Welch 43 Manchester 17:08 5:32
15 Paul Kichar 5 Amity Regional 17:09 5:32
16 Mike Berkowicz 107 Woodstock Acad 17:10 5:33
17 Tim Rosenbaum 29 Griswold 17:10 5:33
18 Mike Viklund 56 New Milford 17:13 5:34
19 Dan Watson 57 New Milford 17:14 5:34
20 MIKE KANE 114 FLD WARDE 17:14 5:34
21 Cody Otto 21 Glastonbury HS 17:15 5:34
22 Anthony Vento 55 New Milford 17:16 5:34
23 Eric Macknight 60 Newtown 17:16 5:35
24 James Rosenberger 98 Southington 17:16 5:35
25 Josh Debner 93 Southington 17:17 5:35
26 Anthony Marceau 69 NFA 17:18 5:35
27 Will Edgington 37 Manchester 17:21 5:36

BOYS SEEDED RACE 5KM

Place Name No. Club Grd Time Pace
===== =================== ===== ======================= === ======= =====
1 Zach Gordon 193 Pittsfield 16:30 5:20
2 Danny Pilz 180 Newington 16:30 5:20
3 Jake Sullivan 111 Fitch 16:44 5:24
4 Will Griffin 73 East Catholic 16:46 5:25
5 Everett Hackett 311 William Hall 16:49 5:26
6 Rich Klauber 276 Thomaston 16:53 5:27
7 Joe Poulsen 221 Seymour 17:00 5:29
8 Tim Anderson 295 Weston High 17:12 5:33
9 Brian Krusell 177 Newington 17:13 5:33
10 Andrew Sullivan 96 Ellington 17:16 5:35
11 Mike Stedronsky 147 Litchfield 17:19 5:35
12 Josh Olsen 280 Thomaston 17:20 5:36
13 James Sylvestre 140 Lincoln HS 17:24 5:37
14 Chris Frank 120 Immaculate High 17:27 5:38
15 Nate Kehoe 158 Mohawk Trail 17:28 5:38
16 Mike Andrews 1 Agawam H. S. 17:28 5:38


BOYS UNSEEDED RACE

Place Name No. Club Grd Time Pace
===== =================== ===== ======================= === ======= =====
1 Jeremy Garavel 157 Joel Barlow 17:13 5:34
2 Scott Johnson 194 Lyme-Old Lyme 17:19 5:36
3 Mike Rubano 272 Old Saybrook HS 17:20 5:36

[sisyphus]

While I haven't measured it myself, I heard 100-120 meters longer than last year (5050). Also, the chips are awesome and the course is finally a true cross cointry race rather than road/cross hybrid but it does cost some time compared to last year. It looks like 30 seconds slower to me.

[sisyphus]

poly,

Have any of the Mass kids who came to Wickham run Franklin this year?

[300kicks]

NORWELL ran both, EMass team

Wickham
10 STEVE BURKE 1 NORWELL MA 17:54 5:47

Franklin Park
45 Steve Burke Norwell 17:48 43

With the All State meet @ Northfield Mt this year, WMass teams opted not to run Franklin Park early.
In the past, they would travel to give the young'uns a pre AS meet taste of Franklin Park

[Geoff]

i hate the new trail-it is sloped about 20 degrees to the side

worst idea ever

any thoughts?

[runningforthefreaks]

It wasn't too bad when running on it, considering it only lasted about 200 meters. There is a good side to it though, you cut off most of the pavement hill that climbs up to the cabin.

[SHSumma]

It wasn't too bad when running on it, considering it only lasted about 200 meters. There is a good side to it though, you cut off most of the pavement hill that climbs up to the cabin.
you still have to climb that on the trail though.the only plus to that is you get about 100 meters to rest before you hit the second part of that hill

[eaglevision666]

you also have to think about how the hill isnt has steep going up so when coming around again in the opposite directions you dont get as much of a recovery(like on the old course with the paved hill, steep up hill and down hill, this course not as steep)

[sisyphus]

300 kicks, thanks.

Regarding the sidehill, welcome to cross country everyone.

[eaglevision666]

i like this new course at lot more than the old one, just my opinion.

[BeamonStreet]

Regarding the sidehill, welcome to cross country everyone.

QFE

Stop being a bunch of babies .... the new course is better than the old.

[krsully06]

any word on what the story was with Morrisey from Newtown? finally back and running but in the JV race? heart condition still persisting?

[fourdegrees8924]

QFE

Stop being a bunch of babies .... the new course is better than the old.

I agree...but I must say, to me it seems the overwhelming response to the course is mainly positive...I haven't heard many complaints

[longdistance55]

did anyone notice that there were some discrepancies with the results of the unseeded and seeded boys' results?

classical magnet runners were totally erased from the results of the seeded as were other individuals from both races.

also, if there were 400 athletes on the performance lists, why did the finish line crew run out of numbered index cards to hand out to the athletes?

[longdistance55]

and for the record, i do like the newer course... now if the meet directors/course designers could stop calling it a 4k...

[Grebey]

did anyone notice that there were some discrepencies with the results of the unseeded and seeded boys' results?

classical magnet runners were totally erased from the results of the seeded as were other individuals from both races.

also, if there were 400 athletes on the performance lists, why did the finish line crew run out of numbered index cards to hand out to the athletes?

Yeah. Our 4th guy came in 208 but the results have him at 244 with a much worse time. I dont know whats wrong with them.

[longdistance55]

just got an email from northeast timing, basically stating there was a mistake.

i wonder what they would do if every coach who noticed there was an error contacted them...

do you think the boys unseeded meet will be rescored?

[sisyphus]

Regarding the Wickham time conversion from last year. Last year, Wickham was a pretty solid equal to Greater Hartford. This year, the 18 people that broke 17:30 at Greater Hartford that ALSO ran Wickham averaged 35 seconds slower on Wickham. Throwing out anomalies and taking the middle ten, the average differential was 31 seconds slower at Wickham. I think 30 seconds is a pretty fair bet.

[skeets_800m]

I agree on the 30 sec, although it might be a little less for the front group and a little more when you get above 17:30. If it was 30 sec. Judd should be close to breaking 13:00 at Manhattan. I had always figured 13:00 at Manhattan equaled 16:00 at Wickham. (old course)

One interesting thing I noticed in both Championship races was that none of the kids moved. Front pack stayed the same, middle pack stayed the same and if you were in the back you stayed in the back. Maybe kids were a little unsure of the course.

[SHSumma]

One interesting thing I noticed in both Championship races was that none of the kids moved. Front pack stayed the same, middle pack stayed the same and if you were in the back you stayed in the back. Maybe kids were a little unsure of the course.
The Championship race tends to have smarter racers, in general. Because the Championship race is more about team than individual performance, most guys arent going to take a chance and go out too hard and die because they want their team to do well. I might be speaking for myself here, but i knew going into the race where about i would be placing because of the small size of the race. Since I knew I was going to be middle of the pack for the race, I went out conservative and basically held my position for the whole race. I would say many other people in my race had the same strategy.

[SHSumma]

On another note, I just compiled all the results for the boys races and am in the process of tallying up the scores right now.

[polyxc]

looking forward to seeing it!

[polyxc]

What does the acronym RHAM mean?

[XC2k24]

What does the acronym RHAM mean?

Regional Hebron, Andover, and Marlborough

[polyxc]

Were the Newtown girls a complete surprise?

[polyxc]

Regional Hebron, Andover, and Marlborough
thank you!

[breng77]

No I don't see the Newtown Girls as a complete surprise, they have dominated their meets so far this season, including winning the bethel invite, ahead of EO Smith. They have a very tight pack most of the time.

[AliMc929]

any word on what the story was with Morrisey from Newtown? finally back and running but in the JV race? heart condition still persisting?

I'm pretty sure that he was running JV because he hadn't been running for the past few weeks. I'm pretty sure he'll be running this week's regular season meet against New Milford and Notre Dame though.

As for the girls at Wickham Lyman Memorial and Glastonbury had some impressive showings. Opens should be interesting this year.

[breng77]

Combined Wickham through 100 scoring places
Teams
1.) Glastonbury (1,5,12,14,29) 63
2.) NFA (7,15,17,35,58) 132
3.) New Milford (6, 25, 27, 31, 57) 146
4.) Newtown (11, 18, 32, 44, 66) 171
5.) Amity (9, 20, 46, 50, 51) 176

[breng77]

1 Donn Cabral 16 Glastonbury HS 15:58 1
2 Andrew Judd 12 Conard 16:27 2
3 Zach Gordon 193 Pittsfield 16:30 3
4 Danny Pilz 180 Newington 16:30 4
5 Robbie Dugger 17 Glastonbury HS 16:35 5
6 Dan DeCrescenzo 53 New Milford 16:39 6
7 Luke Albertson 65 NFA 16:40 7
8 Jake Sullivan 111 Fitch 16:44 8
9 Wesley Halstead 4 Amity Regional 16:45 9
10 Everett Hackett 311 William Hall 16:49 10
11 Zack Schwartz 64 Newtown 16:51 11
12 Anthony Colabella 8 CheshireAcademy 16:51
13 James Llamas 20 Glastonbury HS 16:52 12
14 Rich Klauber 276 Thomaston 16:53 13
15 Chris Klobedanz 19 Glastonbury HS 16:54 14
16 Jason Wagner 71 NFA 16:56 15
17 Joe Poulsen 221 Seymour 17:00 16
18 Craig Babcock 66 NFA 17:05 17
19 Charlie Baldour 58 Newtown 17:06 18
20 Colby Welch 43 Manchester 17:08 19
21 Paul Kichar 5 Amity Regional 17:09 20
22 Mike Berkowicz 107 Woodstock Acad 17:10 21
23 Tim Rosenbaum 29 Griswold 17:10 22
24 Tim Anderson 295 Weston High 17:12 23
25 Jeremy Garavel 157 Joel Barlow 17:13 24
26 Mike Viklund 56 New Milford 17:13 25
27 Brian Krusell 177 Newington 17:13 26
28 Dan Watson 57 New Milford 17:14 27
29 MIKE KANE 114 FLD WARDE 17:14 28
30 Cody Otto 21 Glastonbury HS 17:15 29
31 Andrew Sullivan 96 Ellington 17:16 30
32 Anthony Vento 55 New Milford 17:16 31
33 Eric Macknight 60 Newtown 17:16 32
34 James Rosenberger 98 Southington 17:16 33
35 Josh Debner 93 Southington 17:17 34
36 Anthony Marceau 69 NFA 17:18 35
37 Scott Johnson 194 Lyme-Old Lyme 17:19 36
38 Mike Stedronsky 147 Litchfield 17:19 37
39 Josh Olsen 280 Thomaston 17:20 38
40 Mike Rubano 272 Old Saybrook HS 17:20 39
41 Will Edgington 37 Manchester 17:21 40
42 James Sylvestre 140 Lincoln HS 17:24 41
43 Josh Perry 47 Naugatuck 17:24 42
44 Jon Verrengia 92 Simsbury High 17:24 43
45 Kevin Hoyt 59 Newtown 17:25 44
46 Dan Gaunya 110 Woodstock Acad 17:26 45
47 Adam Trofa 7 Amity Regional 17:26 46
48 Chris Frank 120 Immaculate High 17:27
49 Bryan Crowley 88 Simsbury High 17:27 47
50 Jason Cusack 24 Griswold 17:27 48
51 Nate Kehoe 158 Mohawk Trail 17:28 49
52 Joseph Greenspun 3 Amity Regional 17:28 50
53 Mike Andrews 1 Agawam H. S. 17:28
54 Daniel Rothberg 6 Amity Regional 17:29 51
55 Will Sennett 14 Conard 17:32 52
56 Chris Abbott 78 East Hampton 17:32 53
57 matt casey 16 branford high 17:32 54

[breng77]

58 Nick Vasquenza 83 East Hampton 17:33 55
59 James Grebey 291 Westhill 17:36 56
60 Ryan Cheng 52 New Milford 17:37 57
61 Mike Miner 70 NFA 17:38 58
62 Andrew Orum 28 Griswold 17:38 59
63 Greg Baribault 288 RHAM 17:38 60
64 MATT HADARTY 326 CATHEDRAL MA 17:39 61
65 KYLE KRAMER 75 NOTRE DAME W.H. 17:39 62
66 Sam Silliman 216 Portland 17:39 63
67 John Stroud 217 Portland 17:41 64
68 Jeremy Goldenberg 11 Conard 17:42 65
69 Scott Nichols 62 Newtown 17:42 66
70 Pat Summa 99 Southington 17:42 67
71 Mike Ralabate 251 St. Joseph 17:43 68
72 Andrew Cardin 67 NFA 17:43 69
73 Dan Le 39 Cheshire HS 17:43 70
74 Brian Robbins 26 Bristol Central 17:43 71
75 Conor Wilson 15 Conard 17:44 72
76 Andrew Worth 133 Ledyard High 17:44 73
77 Aaron Hayes 105 Fermi 17:44 74
78 Erik Schilke 131 Ledyard High 17:46 75
79 Nick Aguila 309 William Hall 17:47 76
80 Kyle Bridgewater 100 Farmington 17:47 77
81 Tom Kacerick 111 Woodstock Acad 17:49 78
82 Chris Bradley 29 Canton 17:49 79
83 Alex Petersen 257 Staples 17:49 80
84 JOHN QUATROCHE 90 EAST LYME 17:50 81
85 Josh Porizky 109 Fitch 17:50 82
86 Alex Romano 28 Bristol Central 17:51 83
87 Dave Krinjak 40 Manchester 17:51 84
88 Aron Mesham 196 Lyme-Old Lyme 17:52 85
89 Tim Laverdiere 378 West Springfld. 17:53 86
90 Matt Eremita 233 South Windsor 17:53 87
91 David Billing 128 Ledyard High 17:54 88
92 Gavin Harney 441 Bolton High 17:54 89
93 Kevin Tiernan 169 Jonathan Law 17:54 90
94 STEVE BURKE 1 NORWELL MA 17:54 91
95 Tom Maybury 93 East Longmeadow 17:55 92
96 John Drago 425 Avon High schoo 17:55 93
97 Ben Heslin 432 Berlin High Sch 17:56 94
98 BRIAN MAGNA 30 Canton 17:57 95
99 Spencer Sass 146 Litchfield 17:57 96
100 Chris Rosenberg 313 William Hall 17:57 97
101 Tyler Gauruder 38 Manchester 17:59 98
102 Nick Aviles 44 Naugatuck 18:00 99
103 Alex Johnson 39 Manchester 18:00 100

[old man]

I wonder if there is a greater difference in course times from last year to this ...

I haven't taken the time to really crunch this out, but if I remember correctly, last year the invite was on a pretty wet and soggy course after a weekend of hard rain. Perhaps a better conversion would be 2004 (another decent weather day...always an oddity at Wickham) to 2006.

I imagine a good soaking would slow this course down a great deal. Any athlete without spikes should consider an investment soon. Also, I have to wonder how the course will handle a day of heavy rain and class meets. The total time could be even more influenced by course conditions than it has been in the past...this may be especially true in the girls' divisions where there is more parity between classes whan in boys where it seems all LL, a little L and then the token Griswold team.

It is nice to get off the roads.......my only dislike for the course is the running on a cross angle, but it didn't seem as bad as I first thought....if I had my druthers, I would have loved to have the course take a right hand turn out of the first woods section, straight down the long grass hill behind (?) the cabin and then a wide u-turn back up that hill...... that would have been fun (to watch a least)

Finally, I have no problem with the random distances, it just seems wrong to publicize it so inaccurately (the Courant's desription of the girls' course being 2.467 or something to that effect implied a very accurate distance which then indicates that our girls are much slower than they really are)

[sisyphus]

When I was first asked how a course can have over 100 meters added AND take away over a mile of fast asphalt and replaced with slow chips and only add 30 seconds, my response was exactly what you said, it rained last year and that made last years course a little slower. I was not comparing "best days" but the times from Invite 2006 to LL or Open last year. The problem with using 2004 is that the course was shortened by about 50 meters from 2004 to 2005 so that also skews numbers. I would guess this course might only be 20 seconds slower than 2004. I would say that a 15:40 would be on par with the Haji/Coombs times.

[longdistance55]

sisyphus,

i know you were upset about ct girls running the 4k as times are not easily comparable to those nationwide... what do you think the effect will be (if any) of running a "4k" at wickham on regional/national rankings?

[sisyphus]

As much as I hate to say it for a variety of reasons, the responsibility for teams seeking rankings is now on them to go to New York or Rhode Island in the early to mid season to establish themselves. No Connecticut team, especially girls, will achieve a ranking by racing exclusively in state. This puts a significant burden on these teams versus New York and New Jersey teams that can afford to peak for the end of the season. Saratoga boys and Roxbury girls are prime examples of this last year. It is a shame with the immense talent and dedication that these athletes have shown that the support structure is not there for them to facilitate showcasing their abilities; but it's time to stop pretending that anyone will think about these athletes except the athletes and coaches themselves.

[polyxc]

The problem here may be that the New England States don't get as much credit for their state meets and the New Englands as New York and New Jersey do.

Maybe that will change. Certainly the New Englands will have more talent, team wise, than New Jersey will this year.

And the wider use of Mr. Meylan's speed ratings may help teams not running in NY or NJ get more respect for their performances.

[sisyphus]

Combined Wickham through 100 scoring places
Teams
1.) Glastonbury (1,5,12,14,29) 63
2.) NFA (7,15,17,35,58) 132
3.) New Milford (6, 25, 27, 31, 57) 146
4.) Newtown (11, 18, 32, 44, 66) 171
5.) Amity (9, 29, 46, 50, 51) 176

I may be reading this wrong but shouldn't Amity #2 have 21 points?

[breng77]

20 acctually, I wrote it wrong the total should still be right though

[c_Renz]

times in the seeded varsity were about 45 seconds longer because the lead truck left and everyone went about 300 meters longer than they should have

[ThatRunner]

times in the seeded varsity were about 45 seconds longer because the lead truck left and everyone went about 300 meters longer than they should have

why would u be an idiot and post on the wickham invite thread from last year...honestly...

[audi]

times in the seeded varsity were about 45 seconds longer because the lead truck left and everyone went about 300 meters longer than they should have


haha you are a year out of date man. dont revive old threads and confuse people like that

[c_Renz]

oops. haha

[eaglevision666]

LOLZzzzzzzzzz

such n00bness...<3 it

[xavierbeatsyou]

No Danbury, Xavier, Darien, Guilford, Ridgefield.


Top teams on paper

1. Glastonbury
4. Newtown
5. NFA
6. Griswold
7. New Milford
8. Conard
9. Amity Regional
11 Simsbury High
13 Woodstock Acad
15 Southington


Teams Alphabetically:

Amity Regional
Conard
Glastonbury HS
Griswold
Lyman Memorial
Manchester
Naugatuck
New Milford
Newtown
NFA
NOTRE DAME W.H.
Shelton High Sc
Simsbury High
Southington
Wilcox Tech
Wilcox Tech
Woodstock Acad

o the memeries when people accualy thought G-Bury was better then D-bury and when Xavier was ranked 3rd, the memeries