Section 8 Spring Track

[IveGotTheRuns]

It's here, how do you feel about that?

[ontherun2534]

I feel great thats its finally here. I've had enough of indoor meets and running in the cold. Mitchel field is way better than Nassau CC.

[PeterQuince]

I miss (and heart) Mitchel Field. Long live Section VIII!

[The X-Factor]

o its here alright. Who's attending the relays tomorrow for boys/what events are you running? Also anyone think we'll finally get numbers tomorrow? I want some damn results and rankings on the sectiob 8 website already.

[outwork->outrun]

does anyone know if there will be a steeple at section 8 relays this year?

[palimmer]

]does anyone know if there will be a steeple at section 8 relays this year??
since the meet is today and as of yesterday the new barriers had not arrived it is unlikely there will be a steeple.. but that's Nassau County government for you since the equipment was ordered last MAY!!

[The X-Factor]

daaaaaaaaamn it was cold. congrats to all that beat me :p

[palimmer]

I feel great thats its finally here. I've had enough of indoor meets and running in the cold. Mitchel field is way better than Nassau CC.
It certainly wasn't better today and tonight!! That was not fun to say the least... Mitchel Field is a wind tunnel and close to the Arctic Circle!

[IveGotTheRuns]

Did the steeple pan out? Any good results?

[The X-Factor]

unless i fell asleep there was no steeple to my knowledge.
and for impressive results i guess id say the calhoun 4xmile. didnt get there time but i think it was close to 19 flat, as they won easy.

[outwork->outrun]

does anyone remember the name Scott Yerys from massapequa?
he's my physical therapist and said he ran for them back in the 70?s
he said his 4x8 team placed third at states some year but i don't think he gave an exact date
i just wanted to know if he ran 9:20-9:30 in the deuce cause he said he did and i don't believe him haha (he also said he never broke 5 in an open mile and i thought that was hard to believe if he could run 9:20)
i know he was good in the 800 (1:56) but 9:20 seemed a little out there

[The X-Factor]

im from pequa and as far as i know the 2 mile record is 9:42 held by bryan mcelroy, set some time in the late 1960s. He was 19 when he set i think. So, unless this yearys character ran the 9:20 after high school or for some other school i doubt he did, cuz hes on none of our records.

[outwork->outrun]

oh alright haha...maybe he meant 10:20-30 cause i thought that sounded wayy too fast - thanks

[ontherun2534]

Ive never heard of Scott Yerys but he certainly never ran a 9:20 3200 because there's no record of him at Massapequa. Brain McElroy holds the school record in that event and also the section VIII record of 1:49.2 in the 800 from 1969.

[ontherun2534]

I heard that the Derrick Adkins meet at Mitchel Field next monday is cancelled because of Passover. Can anyone confirm this?

[palimmer]

<<Scott Yerys from massapequa?
he's my physical therapist and said he ran for them back in the 70?s
he said his 4x8 team placed third at states some year but i don't think he gave an exact date
i just wanted to know if he ran 9:20-9:30 in the deuce cause he said he did and i don't believe him haha >>
You have good reason not to believe him... I don't believe it happened.. by the way, I'm fairly certain that Al Peterson from Massapequa ran faster than the 9:42 supposed school record of Brian McElroy....

[Needforspeed3]

Scott is a very smart guy, i think he ment 10:20 not 9:20. i do beleive he was a pretty good soccer play?

[outwork->outrun]

Scott is a very smart guy, i think he ment 10:20 not 9:20. i do beleive he was a pretty good soccer play?

yup he played in college i think...he's a cool guy - i guess he just didn't quite remember some of his track times, which is understandable because he was a soccer player first and then a runner

[mjtrack]

Valley Stream CHSD or Bellmore-Merrick CHSD? boys predictions? girls predictions?

[The X-Factor]

knight time invitational anyone? im running the deuce

[Mike]

knight time invitational anyone? im running the deuce

ditto

[PeterQuince]

Is Knight-Time running any faster than it did the first year they held it? That was 2003 with many delays. Fun meet, though.

It would have been a much cooler play on words if it had been at knight under the lights, though.

[The X-Factor]

Is Knight-Time running any faster than it did the first year they held it? That was 2003 with many delays. Fun meet, though.

It would have been a much cooler play on words if it had been at knight under the lights, though.


^^^lol, i always thought the same thing. But alas, we must wake at 6:45 for this crazy saturday meet to start my vacation :mad:

[Brook XC02]

I remember two years ago we had down pours during the whole meet. Yet again, this saturday they are calling for rain. No chance its going to be cancelled is there?

[PeterQuince]

Two years ago? No...2003 it was bright and sunny (and by the time my race rolled around I thought it had gotten hot). Perhaps 2004 it rained?

The rainy 2003 meet was Nassau Coaches Invitational the very next weekend--it rained sideways and the track didn't drain well (or at least not fast enough as the first lane was flooded).

[The X-Factor]

ughh what a disaster saturday. I know one thing for sure, my team is never going to the knighttime invitational again, ever. I think when our team left the meet was 4 hours behind and over half the original teams were gone. On a positive note: great race to the guys from lynbrook in the deuce.

[outwork->outrun]

yeah that meet was ridiculous..the 2mile was fun though - a nice lynbrook/massapequa showdown lol

[PeterQuince]

Showdown?

Times and places??

[Armstrong23]

Truitt - 9:37.3
Artuso - 9:41.7
Grunert - 9:41.9
Lynch - 9:44.1

<-Nope

[palimmer]

Truitt - 9:37.3
Artuso - 9:41.7
Grunert - 9:41.9
Lynch - 9:44.1

<-Nope
are you serious?? if so, that's amazing! did they count laps?

[PeterQuince]

Haha, if that's true I want to look back and say "man, I remember beating Truitt once by accident and once when I was 'good' for me and he was 'slow' compared to now," and realize how strong a time that is for today's conditions in mid/late April.

Well, if those times are all legit, since all of you guys troll/post here, congratulations. That's amazing.

If those times are fabricated, I'll be quite mad at you, Armstrong23, because I was truly excited and shocked reading this post.

[The X-Factor]

Times=fake
lol. I ran the race and truitt was the only one that may have gone under 10. He won easy and was somewhere around 10 or below.

[Mike]

Times=fake
lol. I ran the race and truitt was the only one that may have gone under 10. He won easy and was somewhere around 10 or below.

You're supposed to play along.... :(

[ontherun2534]

Where did those times come from? I wish those were the real results. I think the times for Lynbrook and Massapequa were spread out between 10:00 and 10:30.

[outwork->outrun]

yeah i wish we ran those times but we didnt...they were about:

truitt 10:03
artuso 10:14
massapequa(not grunert) 10:20
lynch 10:24

the steeple was a good 2-man race
squire dropped d.tully with about 600 to go
i think he ran about 9:56 and tully was around 10:05

[The X-Factor]

yeah i wish we ran those times but we didnt...they were about:

truitt 10:03
artuso 10:14
massapequa(not grunert) 10:20
lynch 10:24

the steeple was a good 2-man race
squire dropped d.tully with about 600 to go
i think he ran about 9:56 and tully was around 10:05

yea but who watches steeple to see who wins anyways? We all just wanna see people get wet and fall completely under the water and do cannonballs. :D J/k, great job to those 2.

[Needforspeed3]

Plimmer you coached some of the best runners that county has have. how would you rate the the runners that have come out of the freeport program. they have had runners like odis sanders who i think ran 4:13 for the mile and low 9 for 2 miles. they seemed to have been a pretty good distance power in the past. and what do you think of thier program now.

[Armstrong23]

Sorry to burst everybody's bubble, but my original post was a joke. I thought you guys would have realized that wtih the "Nope" at the bottem of the post. If you believed those times, well, that's pretty funny for this early in the season.

[PeterQuince]

Ah well, I fell for that one. Too bad--I'd gotten excited.

[palimmer]

<<they seemed to have been a pretty good distance power in the past. and what do you think of their program now?>
Their current coach, although very good, seems to concentrate on events 800m and below.. many things run in cycles... I wouldn't count Freeport out as a distance power some day... Odis Sanders was one of the all time greats in LI distance running... can't recall the year exactly, but once in XC in a dual meet at Eisenhower Park, Freeport took 1-2 with Sanders and Don McFarlin ( sub 4:20 also) while we took the next 23 places... back then there was no limit to how many you could run in a varsity race.. we held no JV races in duals.. That year we put our top 7 in the first 16 in the SQ... think we ended up 3rd in the States.

[RushyT]

Results from Adkins?

[The X-Factor]

whats up with section 8 never updating there website? we havent gotten like any results up on there and the rankings are based off of one meet that went down about a month ago. Someones slacking :mad:

[PeterQuince]

As I recall it's updated from a school computer and schools are in recess this week. Or that's the way it was a few years ago. Or I completely made that up as a justification a few years ago and haven't had it disproven.

[sirtrackalot]

Bob Beer is retired and updates from home. hopefully they will be updated soon !!!!!!!!!!!

[palimmer]

Bob Beer is retired and updates from home. hopefully they will be updated soon !!!!!!!!!!!


Bob Beer was in the hospital for quite some time.. got out on Wednesday..

[PeterQuince]

Best well wishes to Mr. Beer.

[The X-Factor]

Another saturday disaster weather-wise for section viii at nassau coaches. Seemed like the meet deflated once relays came around.

[xorunner287ox]

does anyone know if they are having open steeplechase at the frosh/soph meet...last i heard mitchel didn't have steeple barriers is that true?

[Mike]

results from division meets, besides 1a, anyone?

[sirtrackalot]

jfk girls came in THIRD ???? and the boys dead last

[The X-Factor]

Lets bump this back to the top were it belongs. State quals heat sheets are up. Not surprised seeing syosset in any individual events, but im shocked to see white making an attempt for the triple. It wont be easy for him, but he definately has a shot. Btw, how is qualifying working again? Im a little confused, heard multiple standards, like top one in each class, top 2 overall, top 3 overall. Which is it?

[Mike]

http://img209.echo.cx/img209/6306/480831584ae1020001804gu.th.jpg (http://img209.echo.cx/my.php?image=480831584ae1020001804gu.jpg)

You will let me go to states.....

[MJR]

Remember to get your entries in for the LI Champs / Empire State Games Trials, which are 6/11-12 at Farmingdale HS.

Entry forms are online at www.litf.org and must be received by June 1st, if you wish to compete.

[xorunner287ox]

There are 2 automatic qualifiers: top in each A school and top in each B school; a 3rd person can make states if the standard is met (these can be found in the section 8 spring handbook)

[PeterQuince]

im shocked to see white making an attempt for the triple. It wont be easy for him, but he definately has a shot.

He also may be sizing up his options. It's possible his coach entered him in all three races to just get him in there, compare the competition, and then scratch. I think he may run all three races but I doubt he will compete in more than one at the state meet itself. Jim Butcher ran the 800m last year before qualifying in the 1600m--and I think it was evident that Butcher wouldn't qualify in the 8, WOULD qualify in the 16, and used the 8 for training purposes. As White is Butcher's former teammate and under the same coach, I would not be surprised to see a similar plan employed.

Btw, how is qualifying working again? Im a little confused, heard multiple standards, like top one in each class, top 2 overall, top 3 overall. Which is it?
a 3rd person can make states if the standard is met (these can be found in the section 8 spring handbook)

The third qualifier (or the fastest non-winner) has this year, unlike prior years, a longer window during which s/he must hit the qualifying standard. The last meet to obtain this mark is the state qualifier. Even though an athlete's qualification may be ensured by an earlier meet's performance and a fastest-non-qualifier position at the SQ meet, all athletes will be seeded for the state meet using only their best performance at the class sectional meet and the state qualifier.

[RushyT]

Rushyxctf is not Theresa Rush everyone hahaha... someone is using my screen name for dyestat... (rushyxctf is my aim)

[adidas400]

yeah elvis lewis wins the 400

[Mike]

yeah elvis lewis wins the 400

yeah agreed...'Just Elvis' wins that

[adidas400]

some of the kids seeded into the 400 for the state qualifier are rediculous

[The X-Factor]

miserable day, but some great races. In the deuce from what i heard kosta had a brilliant kick and crushed everyone in 9:42 (i was too busy lagging behind in the same race). And then the 4x400 was probably the second best race ive seen in my life. West hempstead, syosset, and elmont all tied going into the final 100. liverpool opened up a lead and then lewis just charged back and barely won. Other than that, the meet just plain sucked lol. no offense to any other events.

[adidas400]

what meet are you talking about??? and what school do u run for?

[The X-Factor]

errr, the only meet in section 8 today. the state qualifier? and considering i live in pequa id say its safe to say i run for pequa.

[PeterQuince]

Mr. X-Factor,

Any other places in the 3200? Did MacArthur, Moriarty, or Truitt run?

Elvis Lewis is the man.

[The X-Factor]

no doubt elvis is the man. Um macarthur scratched and looked like he ran some sick split in the 4x400. Moriarty ran about 9:55 :confused: . I saw him lying on the ground after the race, think he had some asthma attack but he was fine after he got his inhaler. Sciolto of calhoun was second in 9:50, moriarity third. Papain 4th in 10:05. Truitt 5th in 10:17ish i think. And yea i suck, id rather not say my time. Pretty good race, according to the seeds kosta pr'd by over 20 seconds, i tip my hat.

[palimmer]

. <<And then the 4x400 was probably the second best race ive seen in my life. West hempstead, syosset, and elmont all tied going into the final 100.>>

The 4x400 was a semi .. the real fireworks are tomorrow... Syosset did not run their 'A' team.... they had a 54.5 leg on today's qualifier.. I'm sure there will be a faster leg tomorrow.... weatherwise it was a horrid night for track.

[barefeet]

any results from the girls the 3000 or predictions for the girls 1500?

[Mike]

What was the best race you've ever seen then?

[RushyT]

Dawn Leavy skilled the 3000 the last 200 or so opening up a nice gap on Bari Melker...they both ran PRs, I believe. Dawn ran 10:30.

The weather was kinda fun.

[The X-Factor]

What was the best race you've ever seen then?
hmm well i havent ever seen any big meets in person (never been to states or anything like that) so this is going to sound crappy. But it was this year at the armory i think at the new balance games? Im not poisitve but it one of the big ones. And in the 2 mile these two kids were battling back and forth and the kid from farrel took a big lead on the last lap and then kid in second on brooklyn tech (girma signi i believe) charged back and barely caught him at the wire. I think it was about 1-2 tenths of a second differential. And after the race they had the two kids jog a lap together and the kid from brooklyn tech was waving to the crowd and got a standing ovation. Not amazing times (somewhere around 9:40s 930s) but thats the closest and best race ive ever seen i guess. And yea i didnt realize till after the race that it was only a semi and was kinda disappointed cuz i prob wont be at the meet tomorrow, but still a fantastic race nonetheless.

[PeterQuince]

Not trying to nit-pick, but Girma Signi is from Brooklyn International, which is not quite as big as Brooklyn Tech (with over 4000 students). It was probably Bishop Loughlin or Hispanic Games. NB only had a two-mile when Rupp and McDougal squared off last year. The Armory is always host to some fantastic races--sounds like this year was no different.

Regardless of your time, making it to the state qualifier is a big deal in a runner's development--be proud that you made it even if you weren't barnstorming.

[outwork->outrun]

congratulations to tony kosta - first place in 9:42 for the 2mile, closing in 2:12!! on one of the crappiest days i can remember...i was impressed

[palimmer]

<<congratulations to tony kosta - first place in 9:42 for the 2mile, closing in 2:12!! on one of the crappiest days i can remember...>>

I must agree... that was a terrific performance on a less than pleasant day ( today could be worse )... what was Kosta's PR? The girls 3000m was also a terrific race, albeit a two person race from the beginning.. Melker's mid race surges took guts but in the final analysis really hurt her... 10:30 is also a huge PR on a miserable day...

[The X-Factor]

not sure what his pr was but his seed time was 10:03, so im guessing that was his best time this year outdoors. 2:12 closing, thats just nasty

[xorunner287ox]

i dunno about anybody else but the weather yesterday was amazing...haha i love the rain :D
yea so the section 8 site says farmingdale has no lights tomorrow? does that mean when i'm racing the 4x8 at 7pm it's gonna be pitch black?

[PeterQuince]

i dunno about anybody else but the weather yesterday was amazing...haha i love the rain :D
yea so the section 8 site says farmingdale has no lights tomorrow? does that mean when i'm racing the 4x8 at 7pm it's gonna be pitch black?

7 PM still sees a lot of light this time of year and I don't recall the state qualifier ever going into the dark when I was in high school (we raced at Farmingdale without lights) and I believe we started at 4:30 or 5 PM, too (on account of how far away in the corner of the county Farmingdale is). Maybe the meet is running slower than in previous years, but I am fairly confident you will have daylight (if indeed you have good weather) all the way through and past the 4x800 relay. Best of luck.

[barefeet]

Yesterday the state qualifier ended by 8:00 even with the rain it was still light out. Sunset isnt until like 8:15, lets hope for better conditions tomorrow.

[adidas400]

elvis lewis won the 400 in 47.6....god damn :eek:

[RushyT]

2:12 closing, thats just nasty

Tony's on FIRE. And he is pretty nasty, too. (JAYYY KAYYY Bob and ed for life)

[runnerkid140]

yo he ran really good at state q's but hes a very unclutch runner. When his team needed him at the county champioship he wasnt able to run well enough to make his team win, to be a great runner you must do that.

[runurassoff]

I have to say the most amazing race from yesterday would be the 4x400. Elvis Lewis ran down ELmont's Atiba who had almost 20m lead... both incredible 400 runners too. Did anyone get a split time for Lewis in that race..

[outwork->outrun]

yo he ran really good at state q's but hes a very unclutch runner. When his team needed him at the county champioship he wasnt able to run well enough to make his team win, to be a great runner you must do that.

what county championship are you talking about? spring? cause he won the steeple so that doesn't make any sense to say he didn't help his team

i had lewis at 47.5 for the 4x4 yesterday...that was a beastly leg - catching liverpool at all is quick but when he has a 2-second lead is insane

[OwlsRunner13]

yo he ran really good at state q's but hes a very unclutch runner. When his team needed him at the county champioship he wasnt able to run well enough to make his team win, to be a great runner you must do that.

How is Kosta not a clutch runner? He won the steeple this spring and in XC this past fall he recieved All-County Honors then went on to run amazing at the state meet. South Side was just deeper and better team then GNS and everyone else in the County AA meet. Charles White ran amazing at counties (won mile and 2 mile and is the best freshman in the country) but his team didn't win the meet, so does that make him not a great runner?

[barefeet]

An unclutch runner?! Kosta ran 17:02 in XC, a 10:12 indoors, and won steeplechase at counties. So what if hes not perfectly consistent at every meet (who is?) he broke his own pr and peaked at just the right time. One person shouldnt be expected to score a majority of the points for any team.

[runnerkid140]

waittttt i didnt say anything about his steeple did I. I was commenting on his 2mile run at counties. He ran what a blazing 10:03 to take 5th place. If he runs that 9 42 at counties he would have a shot at taking first. meaning instead of being awarded 2 points for 5th he would gain 10 points for 1st and taking points away for opposing teams. And his leg in the 4 by 8 must have been blazing cause his team ran 8 56 finishing deaddddddddd last.

[cwhite]

Saying Kosta is unclutch is just pure madness. He comes up at the right times and i can name many examples of this one of which was xc. He was ALL-STATE and ran way better then any one thought he would ,states btw was probley the most important race for him because his team really didnt have a chance to win counties aganist lynbrook. Now during spring track kosta bested his two mile time at the two most important races of the year counties and state q's. Tony is not unclutch he just comes up at the right time and when it counts and peaks extermly well as we saw in both xc and now in spring track.BTW the other reason that qualifing for states this spring was such a big deal for tony is that he was hurt most of indoor track and was hurt in the beggining of spring which really put back his training.

[OwlsRunner13]

waittttt i didnt say anything about his steeple did I. I was commenting on his 2mile run at counties. He ran what a blazing 10:03 to take 5th place. If he runs that 9 42 at counties he would have a shot at taking first. meaning instead of being awarded 2 points for 5th he would gain 10 points for 1st and taking points away for opposing teams. And his leg in the 4 by 8 must have been blazing cause his team ran 8 56 finishing deaddddddddd last.

Stop bashing Kosta, because he is a great runner and has proven that time and time again. Dont bash his 10:03 2 mile, i dont know who you are but i doubt you can run that fast, its a great time and it was a PR for him at the moment I believe. And I don't know much about his teammates or his time in the 4x800 (it wouldnt be a PR for him he ran the steeple earlier that day and the 2 mile the day before) but that is not a one man race so even if he ran under 2 his team defenitely couldnt beat South Side, who ran 8:13 or the other top teams in that race.

[The X-Factor]

Saying Kosta is unclutch is just pure madness. He comes up at the right times and i can name many examples of this one of which was xc. He was ALL-STATE and ran way better then any one thought he would ,states btw was probley the most important race for him because his team really didnt have a chance to win counties aganist lynbrook. Now during spring track kosta bested his two mile time at the two most important races of the year counties and state q's. Tony is not unclutch he just comes up at the right time and when it counts and peaks extermly well as we saw in both xc and now in spring track.BTW the other reason that qualifing for states this spring was such a big deal for tony is that he was hurt most of indoor track and was hurt in the beggining of spring which really put back his training.

no doubt hes a good runner, but judged from this site i dont think he was all-state. http://www.tullyrunners.com/XC2004/BoysAllStateXC04.htm
Unless that list isnt official, he isnt on there so i dont think he was all state.

[PeterQuince]

"The NYS Cross-Country All-State teams were determined by analyzing the results of the entire season with emphasis on the Championship season: Federation Meet, CHSAA Championship, PSAL Championship, NYSPHSAA Championship and the AIS Championship; the FLNE Regionals and the Footlocker National Championship. The Sectional meets are also considered. Then a look at the major Invitationals: Great American, Manhattan College, Mc Quaid, Brown and St. Anthony’s fall into this category. All meets “count” but the better the competition the greater the weight of consideration."

Hope this should clear a few things up. This is according to the New York Sportswriters Association.

Kosta ran exceptionally well (when I checked the results from my dorm at the end of that weekend I did a complete and total double-take) at the NYSPHSAA championship meet. But regardless of how many different meets these folks consider, these results are heavily slanted toward Feds. Kevin Tschirhart was the only runner who didn't race Feds who made the First Team list, and he's also two-time Footlocker qualifier. Brian Schmidt was the only top-10 runner at Feds who didn't make the First-Team cut. Burdick and Kimple were the first two F-M runners at NYSPHSAAs, soundly beating both McCann and Gruenwald (and both wallopped McCann at Manhattan), but they made the Second-Team behind McCann and Gruenwald because of their Fed performances (and subsequent Footlocker appearances). So, like all-whatever honors in football or lacrosse, this too is not a perfect round-up or ranking. Kosta didn't even run Feds, which put him at a serious disadvantage in this (at times flawed) consideration.

However, I do believe Kosta received at medal at the NYSPHSAA meet (correct me if I'm mistaken) and strangely enough in cross-country receiving medals and earning "all-fillintheblank" distinctions don't always go together as neatly as they ought to. A medal is still pretty damn good and he beat a lot of fast people that day.

Whoever mentioned helping his team win, sorry, GNS simply doesn't have the front depth to run a 4x800 that could beat South Side, regardless of Kosta's 800 ability, and there is no way they could have challenege South Side for the team win--even if Kosta and MacArthur had won everything in which they entered. For a school that finished 11th--yes, 11th--at counties two years ago, I'd say they have come a long way and Kosta deserves some credit in that.

Last year GNS finished fourth at AA counties. Two years ago GNS finished 11th. Three years ago (with unequal A-B-C classifications) GNS finished 8th in A (large schools but fewer heavy hitters) with 28 points, more than half of those from Robbie Freeman (16) who was one of the best runners in the state that year. This year GNS had four different athletes scoring significant point totals in what looks like the development of a well-balanced (albeit small) team with a jumper/sprinter, another sprinter, and two distance runners. It looks to me like Kosta did exactly what he was supposed to in order to help his team. Not many schools can successfully beat Westbury outdoors (where their jumpers can score points). That makes South Side exceptional, not GNS bad for being unable to top them.

[Final edit: sorry for the long post. I don't really know what an "unclutch" runner is, but the phrase sounds ridiculous. It looks more like he was improving rather than being inconsistent. I can give you "uncluctch" examples if you want to see what those look like, but from Kosta's senior year it doesn't sound like he fits that description. "Unclutch" is finishing two seconds behind Truitt at the Brown meet and then failing to qualify for states or a team running all-out to beat Syosset in a league meet and then finishing horribly at conferences five days later in x-c].

[Kirpar123]

I do believe that top 20 from each class receive All-State Honors in xc ,and if i am right then Kosta was all-state for xc... 17 897 Tony Kosta-12 Great Neck South 17:01.3
http://www.tullyrunners.com/XC2004/NYS_Boys.htm#Boys_Class_A

[The X-Factor]

^^^^ummm then how come hes not on that all-state list in the link that i posted? im confused on how it works, indoor and outdoor are so much simpler with the top 3 at states deal and not this voting nonsense. btw, just out of curiosity is footlocker regionals open to everyone or do you need a certain place/time at feds in xc?

[RushyT]

All-federation in the winter is top 6, including CHSAA finishers, all-state is top 6 excluding CHSAA finishers, and in spring there's the whole separation of Division 1 and 2 athletes, but yeah, it's a lot more simple than XC.

And to run in the footlocker regionals you don't have to get a certain place at feds. Some of the runners who do FL don't even run for their school; therefore, they can't run in their state/fed meet (i.e. Chantelle Dron and Josh MacDougal who were home-schooled and Lindsey Scherf who competed for a track club, I believe...etc.). I think you just have to have times from certain meets to submit. I've never run it though so I'm not completely sure what races you can use or how exactly you enter.

[The X-Factor]

yea im totally confused, but whatever i prolly wont have to worry about that stuff. good luck to all section 8ers at states!

[runurassoff]

Section VIII at statess?

Best races....

[fireblasttrackster]

Looking at the results i think section 8 did well at states but could have done better especially in the sprints.

Here are my top 10 moments of sec 8 at states


1.Syosset winning the 4x8 in 7:44.21
2.Elvis Lewis winning federations in the 400 in 48.16
3.Charles White,a freshman,coming third in the 1600m with a time of 4:16.17
4.Hempsted coming second in the 4x400m with a time of 3:53
5.Ashely Hendrix,a freshman,coming second in the 100mH with a time of 14.46
6.Uniondale coming second in the 4x2 with a time of 47.35
7.Kinjal Parikh coming in fourth in the steeple with a time of 6:53.21
8..Elmont coming 4th in the 4x4 with a time of 3:22.32
9..Theresa Rush coming in 5th in the 1500m with a time of 4:33.64
10.Maegan Krifchin coming in 4th in the 800 with a time of 2:12.73
11.Brianna Welch, a seventh grader and the youngest person at the state meet, doubling in the 1500 and the 800 with times of 2:17 and 4:50.
12.Sayako Daley coming in 5th in the 400m with a time of 57.31
13.Sabrina Budai coming in 5th for the 200m with a time of 25.36

[TrackPro519]

what does federation champ mean? i know Elvis got it in the 400 meter dash but what does it mean does it just mean state champion?

[PeterQuince]

An NYSPHSAA champ is the D-1 or D-2 winner among the 11 sections of (mostly) public schools. A Federation champ is the winner among all NYSPHSAA, CHSAA, PSAL, and AIS athletes. It's confusing, because NYSPHSAA and NYSFSSAA (try pronouncing that one) championships are run together.

[TrackPro519]

Ok Thanks if you become a federation champion is their anymore track meets for you to compete in?

[The X-Factor]

easterns? nike outdoor nationals? the possibilities are endless :)

[PeterQuince]

Ok Thanks if you become a federation champion is their anymore track meets for you to compete in?

Absolutely, as The X-Factor pointed out (although for boys the NYS meet is generally stronger than easterns), but there is no meet to which Federation champs advance because of their win. All of the other post-season meets are invitationals and entry is based on time--so you could be the Nisky 4x8 team from Section II that couldn't advance to the state meet (because Bethlehem and Shaker were faster) but still qualify to run at NON. You could also pull out an amazing long jump victory into the wind and beat all of your competitors but still not have a good enough mark for the national-type meets.

[TrackPro519]

Elvis ran the 400 in 48.16 and that is his federation championship time is it possible that his time will allow him to run in anymore track meets?

[xorunner287ox]

Looking at the results i think section 8 did well at states but could have done better especially in the sprints.

Here are my top 10 moments of sec 8 at states


1.Syosset winning the 4x8 in 7:44.21
2.Elvis Lewis winning federations in the 400 in 48.16
3.Charles White,a freshman,coming third in the 1600m with a time of 4:16.17
4.Hempsted coming second in the 4x400m with a time of 3:53
5.Ashely Hendrix,a freshman,coming second in the 100mH with a time of 14.46
6.Uniondale coming second in the 4x2 with a time of 47.35
7.Kinjal Parikh coming in fourth in the steeple with a time of 6:53.21
8..Elmont coming 4th in the 4x4 with a time of 3:22.32
9..Theresa Rush coming in 5th in the 1500m with a time of 4:33.64
10.Maegan Krifchin coming in 4th in the 800 with a time of 2:12.73
11.Brianna Welch, a seventh grader and the youngest person at the state meet, doubling in the 1500 and the 800 with times of 2:17 and 4:50.
12.Sayako Daley coming in 5th in the 400m with a time of 57.31
13.Sabrina Budai coming in 5th for the 200m with a time of 25.36

Did you forget to mention the East Meadow 4x800...All-State/All-Fed with a PR of 9:21...that's impressive; and Shannon Rogers 5th in high jump with 5'4"

[PeterQuince]

Elvis ran the 400 in 48.16 and that is his federation championship time is it possible that his time will allow him to run in anymore track meets?

Haha, yes indeed (I believe). I don't know what the qualifying standards for the National Junior meet are (someone here probably does, though), but if I'm reading the Nike Outdoor Nationals standards properly his 400 time qualifies.

48.0/48.23 is the standard, and I believe the first mark is hand-timed and the second is FAT. The state meet uses FAT, right? If those assertions are correct, Elvis' 48.16 just slides under the 48.23 qualifying mark.

http://nikeoutdoor.nationalscholastic.org/guidelines.php

As the NSSF states, "These marks are guidelines. Exceptions may be made."

Best of luck!

[Armstrong23]

Elvis also ran a 47.9 hand time at the Green and Gold Invitational. So he's in.

[TrackPro519]

At state qualifeir Elvis ran a 47.6 to so he should be in no matter what

[palimmer]

At state qualifeir Elvis ran a 47.6 to so he should be in no matter what>>

As of yesterday, Elvis Lewis had not been entered in the NIKE Outdoor Nationals... I'd hope he'll be entered... it would be a shame that any athlete qualified to run in the National Championships was not given that chance... if I were the kid or his parents I might be upset.....