View Full Version : York Kcocked Out
KCSPEED
12-02-2006, 03:34 PM
It looked like York got knocked down at the first turn. Three of them picking themselves up in the replay.
urinXcountrynow!
12-02-2006, 03:35 PM
im kinda lost.. exactly what place did they get?
PreLikedBeer
12-02-2006, 03:42 PM
Well if them getting knocked down seriously affected them, then I guess I dont feel as bad they did terrible, but still its pretty dissapointing on York's part, but I didnt expect anything from them this year. It didnt feel them same as last year...I dont see york ever repeating for a long time, especially since newton is gettin older and it seems like york is gettin less prestigious There was no buzz around them this year and nobody seemed to excited for them at NTN.
IAmSpartacus
12-02-2006, 03:47 PM
im kinda lost.. exactly what place did they get?
They finished in 8th
1. Bridgetown 109
2. Simi Valley 132
3. Mead 156
4. Academy 173
5. Clifton Park 174
6. Spokane 181
7. Hills 183
8. Elmhurst 188
9. Southlake Carroll 231
10. Carmichael 250
11. Woodlands 270
12. Los Alamos 289
13. Willmarr 322
Jack McPhereson
12-02-2006, 03:50 PM
one positive york still beat the other midwest teams
wiurecrunner
12-02-2006, 03:50 PM
8th is pretty disappointing, but when we find out more information about who fell and see official results, 8th after having 2-4 of your top guys fall down is pretty good
IAmSpartacus
12-02-2006, 03:53 PM
one positive york still beat the other midwest teams
Two Ohio teams in the bottom 7 with the team from Wyoming, maybe Wyoming beat one of them?
urinXcountrynow!
12-02-2006, 03:53 PM
not a good post xc season for IL at all =[
oh well, theres still track
EternalFreshman
12-02-2006, 03:54 PM
the "IL guys better not use the fall as an excuse for York" posts have begun....joy
WOOLYRUNS
12-02-2006, 03:58 PM
the "IL guys better not use the fall as an excuse for York" posts have begun....joy
yeah. it's bound to be annoying
LiL BAnderson
12-02-2006, 04:00 PM
Damn. Illinois hasn't had some good post season races. Footlocer midwest and now this. We place all of our hope into you dan
EternalFreshman
12-02-2006, 04:05 PM
yeah. it's bound to be annoying
just realized I love your location thing..it made me chuckle
Jack McPhereson
12-02-2006, 04:30 PM
i think we should take from this that we are not invincible and to quote forrest gump, "**** happens"
KCSPEED
12-02-2006, 04:31 PM
Looks like York was 10th.
2006 Nike Team Nationals - Championship Boys
Dec. 9, 2006 Portland OR
Live Webcast - results
official team scores-
1. Bridgetown 126
2. Simi Valley 148
3. Spokane 162
4. Carmichael 169
5. Mead 187
6. Clifton 190
7. Academy 190
8. Potosi 191
9. Hills 203
10. Elmhurst 209
top ten individual results - Clifton's Steve Murdock, Ben Johnson from Academy, Mike Cybulski 3rd from Simi Valley, Southlake Carroll's Colby Lowe 4th, and Cameron Quackenbush from Spokane, 6th Carmichael's Evan Watchempinu 16:45. 7th Midlothian's Jason Witt 16:52, Bridgetown's Kyle Dawson 16:53, Mead's Kelly Lynch 16:55, Potosi's Joshua Mathis, 16:55
4th interval - Bridgetown moves to the lead 130, Simi 141, SPokane 162, Academy 173, CLifton 175, Hills 191, Potosi 193, and Mead 195
Clifton's Steve Murdock in the lead
interval 3 - gonna be a barnburner! so close Simi first 132, Spokane 133, Bridgetown 144, Clifton Park 162, Potosi 185, Hills 187, Academy 191
Second interval - Bridgetown 119, Spokane 125, Simi 149, Hills 149, Clifton 155
Top ten individuals are right together
interval one - Spokane 99, Carmichael 105, Hills 123, Clifton Park 127, Bridgetown 136, the Woodlands 145, Simi West 188, Mead 200
12. Los Alamos 289
They have weapons of mass destruction.
spitfire@OPRF
12-02-2006, 07:26 PM
Sequence of the fall here, at the bottom:
http://trackandfieldphoto.com/MeetMatrix.php?Meet=2006%20Nike%20Team%20Cross%20C ountry%20National%20Championships&Day=1&Page=1
runner52
12-02-2006, 07:55 PM
what a mess!
http://trackandfieldphoto.com/DisplayNextJpg.php?061202_1958_2400_RLM
borgy
12-02-2006, 07:57 PM
how many york runners were in that mess?
i know 5 Willmar runners were involved with it...I know York had at least 3 in there...
watchout
12-02-2006, 08:01 PM
how many york runners were in that mess?
i know 5 Willmar runners were involved with it...I know York had at least 3 in there...
Mead had 3...
PreLikedBeer
12-02-2006, 09:32 PM
So did York do bad becuz they fell, or becuz they just didnt run well? Both?
jenuine13
12-02-2006, 09:35 PM
So did York do bad becuz they fell, or becuz they just didnt run well? Both?
It appears both...apparently they were in 19th place after the 1k...which can be attributed to the pileup. I didn't watch the race though, so I don't know how long it took the pileup to clear up, or how bad it really was.
Doc Awesome
12-02-2006, 11:23 PM
Its a shame that there was such a huge pile up in the race because York really had to fight back just to get 10th. That in itself was a huge feat for them. Also it seemed like smulkin and Fry ran pretty well to get 33 and 36 after being in the middle of the pile. Also Alan (the schnoz) Dambrogrio ran an amazing to be Yorks #5 man and get 55 place which was the 2nd best 5th man today! Im not saying York definately would have won because Bridgetwon ran great today but, it woudl it would be pretty close.
Also does anyone know how many Bridgetown runners if any were involved in the pile up? By looking at the results it doesnt seem like any of them were though.
KCSPEED
12-02-2006, 11:38 PM
From the film it looked like York had 3 runners get back up in last place. As a team they didn't move outside at the start like they usually do. Very bunched up at the first turn with a pole in the way also. And I thought the sectional courses were tight at the start.
The Pope
12-03-2006, 12:12 AM
All of Yorks runners were involved
Doc Awesome has some very good points
bojackson
12-03-2006, 01:14 AM
york's place is probably a factor of both the pileup and not running well. other teams had runners in the pileup too, and i'm guessing some teams that beat york were affected too.
fldwtch87
12-03-2006, 02:11 AM
I'm actually going to say it's just because of the pileup...not that I am making excuses, because these types of things happen, but the fact that they were able to move up after falling like that is impressive. I fell down in 2 races last year and my momentum and energy was just totally wasted that I couldn't speed up (1 of the times happened in the beginning like this one). I don't think they would have necessarily won, but judging from their spread and how their 5th guy was the number 2 fifth guy...they probably could have been top 3
daman
12-03-2006, 10:51 AM
They were nearly dead last and had to try and make up the time lost over the remaining 4000 meters against the best teams in the nation. You get in a race at this level and something like this is pretty much fatal to your chances.
It's obvious that Fry and Achtien were the ones really hurt by the pileup, they were projected to be nearer the front, so they had to make up even more time against the best runners from each team. The fact that Achtien was York's 4th runner shows how much it affected their race.
Had they finished around 15th and 20th, which would be a reasonable placing, I figure York would've finished anywhere from 2nd to 4th. As it was, they were only 22 points out of 5th even with the scrum.
ditka3001
12-03-2006, 06:00 PM
At least Nike was able to provide the conditions to get an accurate look at who the best team in the nation is.
PreLikedBeer
12-03-2006, 06:38 PM
At least Nike was able to provide the conditions to get an accurate look at who the best team in the nation is.
qfe
maddash1
12-03-2006, 07:49 PM
It was messy last year too. Perhaps they should move it.... I know their going for the spectator friendly cousre, but I'm actually pretty disapoined that the best course nike can find in all of oregon for an XC national race is a horse track.
Boddah
12-03-2006, 10:20 PM
32 Pannulla, Tom 07 Bridgetown XC Club 5:37.2 17:27.6 32
He went down twice.
PreLikedBeer
12-03-2006, 10:35 PM
32 Pannulla, Tom 07 Bridgetown XC Club 5:37.2 17:27.6 32
He went down twice.
good for him
Boddah
12-03-2006, 10:45 PM
Also does anyone know how many Bridgetown runners if any were involved in the pile up? By looking at the results it doesnt seem like any of them were though.
Should have quoted this post but I assumed people would be intelligent enough to realize why I posted that.
rennur
12-03-2006, 11:05 PM
32 Pannulla, Tom 07 Bridgetown XC Club 5:37.2 17:27.6 32
He went down twice.
Completly different situation. When you fall twice over two haybales somewhere around 2 or 3k, if I remember correctly, is much different than falling down in the first 300 meters when the whole pack is still together. There wasn't a mob around him pushing him around. He was basically by himself, implying no one was around him who caused the fall, and just clipped the haybales.
maddash1
12-03-2006, 11:09 PM
Should have quoted this post but I assumed people would be intelligent enough to realize why I posted that.
I know what your getting at. Dont discredit Bridgeton's win just cuz york was caught in a pile up. I didnt see the race but running smart and avoiding (if possible) situations that could result in pile ups such as not getting stuck in a pack are parts of being a good cross country team. York deserve to be taken out, but all the runners not caught up should probably be credited with running smart.
Also, next week, I'm hoping no one makes the, "ya he won FL but evan would have beat him" post.
Swoosh13
12-03-2006, 11:11 PM
I know what your getting at. Dont discredit Bridgeton's win just cuz york was caught in a pile up. I didnt see the race but running smart and avoiding (if possible) situations that could result in pile ups such as not getting stuck in a pack are parts of being a good cross country team. York deserve to be taken out, but all the runners not caught up should probably be credited with running smart.
Also, next week, I'm hoping no one makes the, "ya he won FL but evan would have beat him" post.
hell ill make the post right now:
Whoever wins next week would have been beat by Evan Jager, however that doesn't matter cuz Jager choked and whoever wins next week is the legitamate national champion
hell ill make the post right now:
Whoever wins next week would have been beat by Evan Jager, however that doesn't matter cuz Jager choked and whoever wins next week is the legitamate national champion
Then don't bother saying that because there are no guarantees that jager would have won.. just like their are no guarantees that he would qualify.
MikeGamms
12-04-2006, 12:58 AM
One Race to rule them all, One Race to find them, One Race to bring them all and in the darkness bind them.
qf THATS RACIST
Leftfielder
12-04-2006, 11:52 AM
http://trackandfieldphoto.com/Jpg.php?Prefix=061202_1958_2475_RLM&Cert=$1$vaulPnfx$1ZNqDknUkLSLHUJWMIatk1
Ouch. From the link up higher in the thread.
runson
12-04-2006, 12:17 PM
Is the spectator part the whole reason??? Where in Oregon would most CC runners choose??? Could they have it on a college course???
watchout
12-04-2006, 03:15 PM
Is the spectator part the whole reason??? Where in Oregon would most CC runners choose??? Could they have it on a college course???
They have two other real choices...
One is the site of the Nike Jim Danner meet, which is an extremely fast course. (Colleges have a meet on it, I'm pretty sure)
The other is the Fort Vancouver site, where they held USATF Championships a couple years ago.
illinirun
12-06-2006, 06:17 PM
this doesnt really relate to the topic, but about york- is chris hinchley still there and did he run cross country? i remember him putting up some good times last year in track
rennur
12-06-2006, 10:47 PM
this doesnt really relate to the topic, but about york- is chris hinchley still there and did he run cross country? i remember him putting up some good times last year in track
He plays soccer in the fall.
you spelled knocked wrong.
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