So, who here doesn't run anymore? [Archive]

BisonHurdler

06-12-2005, 05:02 PM

Doesn't have to mean you don't run anymore whatsoever, or never plan to again, I'm just curious as to who else in here has taken a hiatus (for however long) from running for the time being.

After a string of injuries and other various setbacks for several years, I've more or less stopped any kind of regular running for almost 10 months now, though I still lift very regularly.

I miss it quite a bit, especially the team aspect and such, but there are other times when I don't really miss certain aspects of it.

I still follow the sport about as closely as I ever have, it's just a little strange feeling more "disconnected" from it in general.

Dyenimator

06-12-2005, 07:13 PM

Me.

minibee

06-12-2005, 08:09 PM

I run in intervals. I have chronic shin splints, and it blows. I run for 6 months, get injured and bike for 6 months. It's so discouraging and so tiring. It also results in maaany wasted tears. I love to run, but often times I don't because I just don't want to do it all over again. It also means I don't improve. This year was the first year since I've started cross country that I didn't get shin splints, instead I had piriformus syndrome (which doesn't really stop me from running, but it hurts like hell). I guess I'm just injury prone. I hate it all so much, not just because of the unbearable pain, because sometimes I'll have people look at me like I'm a waste of talent, or like I'm a hypochondriac. But the thing is, I'll run until something snaps. I don't stop running, I wait until people tell me to stop. And often then, it's too late.

fentonfreshman

06-12-2005, 08:15 PM

After a long "break" I am running again. Bison, is it your ankles that are the problem? I remember you had some crazy bad luck with them.

BisonHurdler

06-12-2005, 10:18 PM

After a long "break" I am running again. Bison, is it your ankles that are the problem? I remember you had some crazy bad luck with them.

Primarily, yes.

harrier12

06-13-2005, 02:24 AM

I haven't been running consistently for more than 2 years, primarily thanks to an IT Band problem that actually extends back to junior year of high school. I've run a grand total of 71 miles in the last twelve and a half months, including a stab at Footlocker West last December.

I'm still involved with the sport, doing electronic staging and timing for the Royal Results team here in California, but it's not the same as racing with a team-school doesn't have one, too new.

Throw in a history of injuries-chronic shin splints, least a dozen sprained ankles, and a hip flexor/lower back problem-and I find myself sitting up nights trying to figure out whether I should just throw in the towel at this point. :rolleyes:

Biscuit_AQ

06-13-2005, 02:24 PM

glad to hear you're back in the game fenton.

BEER STEAK

06-13-2005, 04:25 PM

Me.

Though between NCAA's, Pre, and USATF coming up, I can feel the bug coming on again. Might be time for yet another comeback attempt.

mzungu

06-13-2005, 08:40 PM

do it, beersteak. i started a comeback last year in april after 15 years of tendonitis keeping me out and while the comeback has been really slow, i'm currently having some toe problems (suggestions, anyone?) and i haven't been able to do speed work or get the mileage above 35/week, it is totally worth it. in fact, i'm going to do my fourth race of the comeback tomorrow, although the time's going to hurt with a forecast of 95 degrees.

Jwaksman

06-13-2005, 08:43 PM

From these responses, the better question seems to be: Who here in the Legends' Lounge still does run competitively?

I, for one, have one more year. After that, I'm done racing. I'm not going to keep training to run races when I'm 40 years old. I respect those who do it, but I just can't imagine continuing to invest so much time and energy into a sport where I will probably cease to get any better. At that point, running will just be a way to keep from getting fat :D

mzungu

06-13-2005, 08:47 PM

when you've been away from it because of injury for many years, and if you lost your best years of college to injury, you'd totally understand the drive. but if you got some outstanding years at div.1, then pretty hard to maintain that kind of intensity without any international victories for the next 18 years.

Filipe

06-13-2005, 08:55 PM

From these responses, the better question seems to be: Who here in the Legends' Lounge still does run competitively?

Me! Me! Me!

I'm in my buildup for the OKC Marathon next April, and in between I'll do a 5k or two in the fall, maybe a mile or 2 mile indoor, and then the marathon in April. After the marathon, I'll do a 10k for sure, and maybe another 5k. And then I'll take a few weeks off next June, then start again for another goal.

Kalaby

06-13-2005, 09:00 PM

Hung up the spikes many many moons ago.

jersey_guy

06-14-2005, 01:36 AM

jaygray

06-14-2005, 01:44 AM

I plan on competing unattached in the coming year. I just did a beastly hill workout at altitude (I'm in the mountains) today though.

If you don't mind my asking, where did you decide to go to school, Layla?

CTsnapple

06-14-2005, 01:46 AM

I still race competitively. Even though my college doesn't have xc or track, I run road races because I'm sponsored by a local running store (Sneaker Factory) and run on their team. Which is probably better because since I have no leg speed, half marathons are a better bet for me than 5000/10,000m. Hopefully the best days are still ahead of me!

Aren't you the 2020 NJ marathon winner or something of the sorts? ;)

I'd like to be running more than I am. No good excuse why I'm not either. Pretty much sums it up.

Renbircs

06-14-2005, 02:39 AM

I think he's the 2020 Olympic Marathon champ, rather.

BisonHurdler

06-14-2005, 03:05 AM

I think he's the 2020 Olympic Marathon champ, rather.

2012.

jersey_guy

06-14-2005, 03:08 AM

2020 :) I don't think I could improve THAT much in just 7 years!

JaredR

06-14-2005, 04:35 AM

I haven't ran in 11 months. I love running with a passion but it also has caused me more physical and emotional pain than I've been able to handle. Hundreds of injuries, problems with depression, and now laziness is what keeps me from running. Well, also the fact that I'm in terrible shape and I'm heavy, to the point that my legs get really messed up if I try to run. I need to lose probably 20 pounds before it would be a good idea to be going for runs of more than five minutes. I hope I get it back and join a club in the near future.

TrackDaddy

06-14-2005, 06:48 AM

I walk unless being chased.

For cardio, I use an elliptical, bike (indoors and out) or treadmill.

MA Coach

06-14-2005, 09:49 AM

I still run competitively from time to time, but most of my energy goes into staying in shape to run with my kids(the kids I coach) in the fall and spring. I have to push myself to run harder, so that I can run push my top runners. Thus, that's why I still run, and I like to see what I can actually do in the summer. Alas, my best days are behind me, but hey, I'm in a new age group now, so you never know.

Biscuit_AQ

06-14-2005, 06:09 PM

god, I hat elliptical machines so much.

Dyenimator

06-14-2005, 08:50 PM

Sad, sad day for U of M, then.

:(

jrun

06-14-2005, 09:07 PM

Nice to have options though, eh Layla?

Good 'luck' this summer and upcoming school year though I know you won't need it. Make the LL proud!

KenA55

06-14-2005, 09:10 PM

Sounds like an astute decision for your first year, Layla, hopefully you can get the transfer you are hoping for. In any event- I have great confidence that your Universe will unfold essentially as it was meant to.

;)

Filipe

06-14-2005, 09:41 PM

I didn't care for Penn State Honors (that would be BLASPHEMY to go to PSU when I freaking got into Michigan)

I went to the Penn State Honors day, and I didn't care for it either. I didn't really care for the people on campus either--they seemed very arrogant and turned their noses up or looked at me like I had a second or third head. I'm very glad that I chose Oklahoma for my school--we have great professors in the honors program, even if it doesn't have the same academic reputation as PSU.

BisonHurdler

06-14-2005, 10:26 PM

I went to the Penn State Honors day, and I didn't care for it either. I didn't really care for the people on campus either--they seemed very arrogant and turned their noses up or looked at me like I had a second or third head.

Pssh, that's absurd you good for nothing lowlife freak!

:p

On the contrary, I've found Penn State to be a very welcome change from the stuck up, carbon copy college types at Bucknell. My transfer really had nothing to do with the student population's demographic in either school, but I certainly must say that the transferring turned out to be more than just a good decision academically.

Of course, everyone's experience is different, and that's unforutnate that your visit yielded that impression of PSU. Glad to hear you're finding success at Oklahoma.

TrackDaddy

06-15-2005, 01:41 AM

Nice to have options though, eh Layla?

Good 'luck' this summer and upcoming school year though I know you won't need it. Make the LL proud!My sentiments.

The only thing that can limit you Layla is desire.

But then people died to have a choice, so that wouldn't be all bad either. ;)

May your future educational/professional endeavors be fruitful. :)

(Why do I get the impression that not many people in the Lounge have ever drank a 40?)

KenA55

06-15-2005, 02:50 AM

Dyenimator

06-15-2005, 04:27 AM

I've drank a 40 of St. Ide's.

I felt pretty thuggish that night.

TrackDaddy

06-15-2005, 12:09 PM

Hey, TD (Mr. Recess?)- did they ever catch the guy who was hollerin' up such a storm around here the other night in HUGE CAPS?

Congrats on the stellar showing by your Lady Longhorns.

I must never have 'drank a 40,' cause I don't have a clue what that means.LOL..thanks for the congrats.

You know Ken...I was so hyped...I lost my voice typing. :o

A "40" is generally understood to mean a 40oz. bottle of malt liquor.

Now I don't drink anymore, but I do know that when it is "properly" consumed...it's straight from the bottle and often times while standing on a corner.

Dye says he drank a 40 of St. Ides. Back in my day we drank Old English 800.

Both could crank your car and hinder your short term effectiveness. If consumed with regularity...your expectations will suffer.

It doesn't appear to TrackDaddy that Layla (and the Loungers) are apt to drink 40's.

I certainly don't recommend it. :D

BEER STEAK

06-15-2005, 01:05 PM

Well, some of us Loungers drink 40's.

Especially those endorsed by Billy Dee Williams.

Filipe

06-15-2005, 01:14 PM

I didn't even bother visiting PSU. Half of my school ends up there. It's the next four years of high school.

You weren't missing a whole lot, aside from the ice cream place. Central Michigan is where just about everyone from my school ends up.

BisonHurdler

06-15-2005, 02:10 PM

I didn't even bother visiting PSU. Half of my school ends up there. It's the next four years of high school.

A few other state schools in PA ended up like that for my high school. Lucky for me, not too many people from my high school came to PSU, and I don't have to see the ones that did if I don't want to (though there are a few I don't mind catching up with once in a while).

Although, it does help that my first two years of college were at Bucknell, where no one from my school went.

mzungu

06-15-2005, 03:48 PM

layla, the one thing is that the chances of your getting into columbia as a transfer are likely reduced by going to drexel for your first year, whereas they would be increased by going to michigan, assuming that you get good grades, because michigan considers columbia a peer institution (for example, many of their graduate programs are rated roughly the same).

TrackDaddy

06-15-2005, 03:59 PM

Well, some of us Loungers drink 40's.

Especially those endorsed by Billy Dee Williams.LOL :D

TJPatriot

06-15-2005, 03:59 PM

I pretty much don't anymore, and I haven't really since I injured myself during summer training before my senior year of high school. I want to start running again, but I've never been this out of shape in my life. I ran faster in 2nd grade.

mzungu

06-15-2005, 04:06 PM

I think I'm roughly in eighth-grade shape, maybe a little better. my race yesterday was brutally slow, but it was also the hottest day of the year--95 degrees and humid--and my legs were already pretty dead from running to the track. the only positives were that it was still 23 seconds faster than my 5k last november in perfect weather and I hadn't been able to run fast at all for the past five weeks as I tried to get over a toe injury, that my kick was still there for the last 150m as always (closed in 34 for 200m but probably 15s. for the last 100m), and amazingly my toes felt healthy even after running the 2 miles back to the train. This race may indicate that if I can train well the rest of the year, I may be close to freshman year of college pace by November.

BisonHurdler

06-15-2005, 04:55 PM

This should be interesting. I haven't seriously run for about 10 months (and much of my background is not in distance running, though I have done my stints as a distance runner), and I've got to do a VO2 Max treadmill test tomorrow for my lab. This should be ugly.

Sulus

06-15-2005, 07:14 PM

Not running. Drinking 40s (although today it was just Diet Coke...but other days it's Steel Reserve, OE, you get the idea.) But as soon as this damn tendon clears up...

Kalaby

06-15-2005, 07:30 PM

Jwaksman

06-15-2005, 11:00 PM

Dyenimator

06-16-2005, 02:35 AM

40's are also supposed to be consumed out of brown paper bags, we must also note that.

jaguar

06-16-2005, 02:55 AM

Yessss, finally gained access to the prestigious Legend's Lounge!!!

I took a loooonnnnngggg 6 year sabbatical, of which I only ran for about 3 of those years because of all the injuries. I've come on like gangbusters the past year.... hittin' the roads!!!!!! It's awesome!!!!! The fire is still there and burning stronger than ever. :) jag

minibee

06-16-2005, 11:39 AM

I ran yesterday in the 95° heat. There's nothing like it. On top of that, we have no trees. We have evergreens, but they're rather compact and to make use of the shade, you kind of have to run into them. So, it was rather hot. But it felt so goooood. And then I came home and made 5 dozen cookies.

BisonHurdler

06-16-2005, 01:54 PM

Update: Did the VO2 Max test, and apparently my max is roughly in the 55-60 ml/kg/min range. As a hurdler/jumper who dabbled in distance running on occasion but hasn't run regularly in almost a year, I'll take it.

mzungu

06-16-2005, 05:36 PM

I agree with you, Layla. The thing is, Columbia does not view Michigan as a "peer" institution. It's a good school, just like Drexel is a pretty good school. And whatever advantage Michigan has is outweighed by the fact that freshman year at Michigan is a lot of [whatever] 101 classes, with 800 students and a professor who will never know your name. At Drexel, Layla will have small classes, and she will have a greater opportunity to excell at schoolwork and in research. At UMich, she wouldn't get near a real laboratory until Junior year. It's a good decision.

Michigan engineering graduate school is ranked #6 in the country by U.S. News and World Report, as against Columbia's engineering school's #23.

Undergraduate colleges: Michigan tied for #22, Columbia tied for #9.

Michigan undergraduate GPA: 3.72
Columbia undergraduate GPA: 3.78

Michigan faculty-student ratio: 15:1
Columbia faculty-student ratio: 6:1

So, they are certainly in the same peer group, except for the public-private difference (the Michigan state legislature has been shorting the University of Michigan in funding since 1980, which is why the undergraduate school isn't quite as good now). But if you need more proof, Columbia's head Lee Bollinger came straight from the University of Michigan, and Faculty meeting notes from 1999 describe a peer group meeting at Michigan.

But good to study in a summer program at Columbia.

mzungu

06-16-2005, 05:37 PM

BisonHurdler, do you have a bunch of VO2/max ratings correlated to distance results to offer us?

Jwaksman

06-16-2005, 06:49 PM

mzungu, I hope you realize that no one in the Ivy League cares about the US News and World Report. In fact, they often do things that will specifically hurt their rankings (like Princeton is building a new residential college that will greatly increase enrollment and greatly hurt their US News ranking). Also, a quick study of those rankings shows that all schools with good sports programs are ranked way higher than anyone would normally put them (like Stanford, Duke, Berkeley, and UMich), due to various problems inherent in the US News ranking formula.

Most people in administrations at Ivy schools are too arrogant to care about such a formula. It's like it would be below them to do something to help their ranking.

steeplegrlxc

06-16-2005, 07:29 PM

.

Though between NCAA's, Pre, and USATF coming up, I can feel the bug coming on again. Might be time for yet another comeback attempt.

.

I feel that...

I never STOPPED running...I have just been giving myself some time to get my priorites strightened out...

Running used to be NUMERO UNO but after a hella rough year, the first REAL debilitating injury of my life, insomnia & chronic illness...I kinda realized I need to balance things...

woo!

but I am COMING BACK!

Filipe

06-16-2005, 07:33 PM

I feel that...

I never STOPPED running...I have just been giving myself some time to get my priorites strightened out...

Running used to be NUMERO UNO but after a hella rough year, the first REAL debilitating injury of my life, insomnia & chronic illness...I kinda realized I need to balance things...

woo!

but I am COMING BACK!

Allow me to be the first to say welcome back :) It's tough sometimes, but I have no doubts that you'll be able to do it--and trust me, it'll take a little time to get used to running in the Florida heat/humidity; but you'll be alright.

Sebrle

06-16-2005, 10:37 PM

I lucked out when it comes to longevity and track, my fav/best events are the lj/disc (King Carl, Al Oerter, only athletes to win 4 Oly golds). As far as running goes outside of a runway, it rarely happens w/o a BBall.

Motivation: A recent glance of the world list I saw Paul Tergat is still running sub 60 HM's (W#1), Sandra Glover 54 flat 400h (W#2), and another guy born in the 60's ran a 1:45 800, I was also surprised to see Ivan Pedroso still jumping 27', I thought he retired.

TrackDaddy

06-17-2005, 02:22 AM

40's are also supposed to be consumed out of brown paper bags, we must also note that.I had forgotten that.

You, Dye, are a true connoisseur of fine 40's.

If you don't have your brown paper bag...people might know what you're drinking in that 40oz sized bottle. :D

There's been a lot of talk lately about Ivy League schools.

Ivy league, smivy league.

Community colleges can't get no love.

Milesofsmiles15

06-21-2005, 04:52 PM

From these responses, the better question seems to be: Who here in the Legends' Lounge still does run competitively?
well due to the fact that i'm still in highschool, me

Oh yeah!

06-22-2005, 01:03 AM

well due to the fact that i'm still in highschool, me
yep, same here

what percent of the legends lounge is actually highschoolers? were a minority here i think

Sulus

06-22-2005, 01:08 AM

Back running, at least for a bit. How did I get so fat so fast?

BisonHurdler

06-22-2005, 01:59 AM

Back running, at least for a bit. How did I get so fat so fast?

College.

Beer.

quakerxc

06-22-2005, 02:22 AM

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I feel that...

I never STOPPED running...I have just been giving myself some time to get my priorites strightened out...

Running used to be NUMERO UNO but after a hella rough year, the first REAL debilitating injury of my life, insomnia & chronic illness...I kinda realized I need to balance things...

woo!

but I am COMING BACK!
Sounds like my freshman year of college. If I can give you any advice it is simply, "hang in there." After almost a year layoff, I started building up the running again and it was almost depressing. My fastest time of the year was about a minute slower than freshman year. I was roughly in the shape I was in h.s. XC (read: not very good). But I stuck with it, ran a pr indoors that year in the 3k, then ran some half-decent 5k's that spring. That hard year of training and sticking with it really paid off as the following fall (jr. year) I got into the top-20 at conference in XC, after being about 80th the year before. Shows you what consistent training and patience can do for you, especially for someone coming back from a set-back.

Speaking of set-backs, I finished off this past spring with an injury and my first DNF ever. Didn't run for a month afterwards. Since then I've been trying to get back again and it's TOUGH cause I'm pretty darn out of shape. I'm trying to get motivated and hopefully use my 5th year (only indoors and outdoors). I'm adjusting to grad school life and setting new patterns conducive to running is proving more difficult than I imagined. Then again, my past 4 summers have consisted of working a 6am-2:30pm job, and running 90-100mpw in singles, so I shouldn't complain now, having no fixed hours.

Wolverine318

06-22-2005, 11:46 AM

My layoff started my junior year. I was too busy working for my research prof and taking 21 credits in order to graduate the following fall. By the time i got home i was exhausted and just wanted to lay down on my fouton and play x box. Then I turned 21 and i started drinking miller light and watching the simpsons after class.

now, i am back into my marathon training. I will be running my third marathon in the detroit marathon.

running high

06-22-2005, 02:41 PM

I have been out with patellar tendinitis since early November. I got it last July and the orthopedic said if I took a couple weeks off I could run with it. Well, I did that and finished the season out, and it flared back up when I went on break in November. Hasn't left since then. I'm looking to start running in a few months. Very. Slowly.