A Couple Of Questions...

[Wubbels7]

Okay I just have a couple of questions that need clarification. 1) Is stationary running with dumbells good for you, and if it is, how so? And 2) Do ice baths really help, and if so, how do they help? Helps re-build tissue faster or what? Thanks!

[DCtrack]

1) I laughed when I read that.

2) The jury is still out on this one. Many people can offer anecdotal evidence of their legs feeling better the next day if they do the ice bath. It is supposed to reduce any iflammation, help minimize micro-tears and start the healing process sooner, and help with the removal of lactate from your muscles. Some believe that ice baths stop the micro-tears from getting which worse which doesn't allow as much adaptation to occur b/c the micro-tears are intensified even hours after the workout is over. However, most of the micro-tearing occurs during and immediately after the workout. Anyway, some claim that impedes long-term progress, but it makes your legs feel better in the short term. There is a lot more to it than that, but to answer your question, yes, I think they are good.

[Wubbels7]

Ah I see, so lets say I am sore the night before a meet, it should help somewhat and not be just a waste of time?

Whats so funny about the stationary running question! It is serious! Lol...

[runningmazungo]

Whats so funny about the stationary running question! It is serious! Lol...


yikes...

[Beanfontaine]

Okay I just have a couple of questions that need clarification. 1) Is stationary running with dumbells good for you, and if it is, how so? And 2) Do ice baths really help, and if so, how do they help? Helps re-build tissue faster or what? Thanks!

1) Neither - not good for you but not bad for you.

2) They may help you FEEL better but there not going to make you faster.

[luv2run]

It seems to me that icing would do the same thing that happens when you ice an injury -- reduce swelling and lessen bloodflow to the area.

But isn't bloodflow to your legs good in bringing in nutients and rebuilding your muscles?
If so, a hot bath would probably help more.

Stationary running with dumbells -- what's the point? Sounds like a waste of time to me ... I've never heard of anyone trying this.

[j567p]

It seems to me that icing would do the same thing that happens when you ice an injury -- reduce swelling and lessen bloodflow to the area.

But isn't bloodflow to your legs good in bringing in nutients and rebuilding your muscles?
If so, a hot bath would probably help more.

Stationary running with dumbells -- what's the point? Sounds like a waste of time to me ... I've never heard of anyone trying this.

talked to a lot of people and they said it helps because my reducing inflammation caused by intense training, you'll increase bloodflow. first, when they are colder than the body, more blood will go to ur cold legs to warm them up. also it will reduce the swelling thus reducing the contriction of blood vessels, flushing lactic acid out and in the end making your legs feel fresher.

[luv2run]

talked to a lot of people and they said it helps because my reducing inflammation caused by intense training, you'll increase bloodflow. first, when they are colder than the body, more blood will go to ur cold legs to warm them up. also it will reduce the swelling thus reducing the contriction of blood vessels, flushing lactic acid out and in the end making your legs feel fresher.Ahh, I get it. Less swelling but more bloodflow.

[wsgeneral]

On the ice bath, the minimization of blood flow to the muscle while in the water allows microtears to begin regeneration. The true clearing of the muscle (which is very little, if any lactate) occurs when you get out and blood begins to circulate faster.

[AirblasterIsHip]

Anyway, some claim that impedes long-term progress, but it makes your legs feel better in the short term. There is a lot more to it than that, but to answer your question, yes, I think they are good.

How exactly do they impede long term progress? Does anyone know, because I have tried this a couple of times and would like to know if I may be causing damage.

[Wubbels7]

Stationary running with dumbells -- what's the point? Sounds like a waste of time to me ... I've never heard of anyone trying this.

From what I understand, and I read this in one of those high school runner magazines, is that stationary running w/ dumbells helps you keep good form when you are fatigued when you are in a race situation, so even though you might think is a waste of time I was just wondering if anyone had any experience with this.

[cmartin2k5]

yeah, I'm also not sure about the first one...certainly couldn't hurt, but then again, I think standard weight trainging might be a more conventional way to go about it--you don't exactly see elite runners walking around with dumbbells on a regular basis.

As for the ice bath, the benefits you get from it are going to be related to how intense your training is. If you're doing doubles on a regular basis or really tough speed workouts, you're going to get a lot of inflammation all over--muscles, joints, etc. What j567p said is pretty much on the money: once the inflammation goes down (from the ice), more blood flow is going to be able to get to the muscles, therefore helping with recovery. I personally started doing an ice whirlpool after intense workouts this year, and it's definitely helped me in recovery to be ready for another speed workout or an upcoming race. I'm not going to say it's a miracle cure by any stretch, but it has definitely helped me in upping my mileage, so I say go for it...if you don't think it's helping any, you can always stop.

[luv2run]

From what I understand, and I read this in one of those high school runner magazines, is that stationary running w/ dumbells helps you keep good form when you are fatigued when you are in a race situation, so even though you might think is a waste of time I was just wondering if anyone had any experience with this.If you do decide to do it, I'd suggest running on a treadmill or something and not stationary.

Personally, I just lift weights to try to prevent arm faigue. Just my input though ... if you think it will help go for it.

[wate]

I've talked to one of the most successful high school coaches of all time, he recommended standing in place and going through the arm motions of swinging your arms with, say, 5 lb'ers in each hand, i've been doing it and i RECOMMEND it. Great for form and strength.

[wsgeneral]

I've talked to one of the most successful high school coaches of all time, he recommended standing in place and going through the arm motions of swinging your arms with, say, 5 lb'ers in each hand, i've been doing it and i RECOMMEND it. Great for form and strength.

It could alter your mechanics leaving you prone to injury/weaker. So weigh the benefits with the harms, sure it might be okay, but I wouldnt do it as a soul means of strength.

[wate]

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