South NTN Regional Team Track '07 Thread

[watchout]

Do you know of a team with several high quality (non-senior) runners? If so, share your knowledge with us! (Including class if possible)

Basically, we're looking at any team with at least 5 runners that have gone under 4:40/10:10 this year, or having run under these marks at their respective state meets this fall:


Texas State: 17:05

(Sorry, but I haven't found ways to accurately include other states yet)

or, for a team that competed at NTN last year, runners that were under 18:20.


Example: (Sorry that this is an example of the MW)

Nequa Valley IL
Chris Derrick (Jr.) 14:22 IL State, 4:19.18 1600m, 9:03.?? 3200m
Jim Riddle (Jr.) 14:45 IL State, 4:28.?? 1600m, 9:42.?? 3200m
Mike Ruff (Jr.) 15:30 IL State
Danny Pawola (So.) 15:42 IL State, 9:17.?? 3200m
Brian Morenus (So.) 15:45 IL State, 10:04.?? 3200m
Kevin Grady (Jr.) 15:59 IL State
Connor Shields (So.)- 4:29.?? 1600m, 10:00.?? 3200m
Luke Verbus (Fr.)- 10:05.?? 3200m
Bryan Winek (So.)-10:09.?? 3200m
Aaron Beatie (Fr.)- 10:09.?? 3200m



As long as there are 5 under 4:40/10:10/(the XC requirement), please share!

Thanks in advance, and please keep us up to date!

[duh...runna?]

woodlands

[watchout]

woodlands

yeah, but how about those other 25+ teams that are going to be there.

[Heracles]

Based on CROSS COUNTRY results of this year:

Guys:
1. Southlake Carroll – 5 (2nd state 06) Region 1 (1st) - Returns FL Finalist Colby Lowe (10th place) as well astalented CJ Brown
2. Mayde Creek – 7 (did not qualify for state) Region 3 (4th) – :24 seconds spread for #1-5 based on regionals results for XC;
3. The Woodlands – 3 (1st state 06) Region 2 (1st)
4. Cinco Ranch – 5 (9th state 06) Region 3 (3rd) Notable: Loses #2 (Kyle Goldsmith/7th at state)
5. Cedar Park – 5 (did not qualify for state) Region 2 (5th)
6. Georgetown – 4 (did not qualify for state) Region 2 (4th)
7. CC Carroll - 7 (did not qualify for state) Region 4 (3rd)
8. Del Rio - 4 (5th state 06) Region 4 (1st)
9. Kingwood - 2 (7th state 06) Region 3 (2nd) - http://texastrack.com/XC%202006/06xc_21-5A.htm; Returns an incredibly talented JV group


Girls
5A GIRLS
1. Keller – 7 (2nd state 06) Region 1 (1st)
2. Kingwood – 6 (3rd state 06) Region 3 (1st) Loses #7 runner
3. Southlake Carroll – 4 (1st state 06) Region 1 (2nd)
4. Cinco Ranch – 6 (5th state 06) Region 3 (2nd)
5. Plano West - 5 (4th state 06) Region 2 (1st)
6. Lamar - 7 (did not qualify for state) Region 3 (5th)

Next year looks to be very incredible for Texas.

[therunner12]

clear lake girls return 5, plus an incredibly talented 8th grader will be joining the team (i think she ran a 5:17 as a 7th grader), they got 3rd in Region 3, and i think 6th at state

Cy Fair girls return 6, they got 4th in Region 3

[watchout]

Ok, so this is what I have so far:


Woodlands
Connor Reed (10) -- 4:17.08, 9:14.65
Matt Golden (11) -- 4:33.21, 9:43.41
Layne Nixon (11) -- 4:27.67, 9:49.1

Along with what they ran in 3200m time trials:
Drew Butler (10) 9:43
Quinn Valentine (11) 9:45
Rich Spearman (10) 9:46
Layne Nixon (11) 9:47
Z. Schleyer (11) 9:50
Tim Wang (11) 9:50
Brad Folks (10) 9:51
Mitch Blakeley (11) 9:53
Bryce Young (11) 9:54
Austin Kovacjch (9) 9:54
Ian Adams (11) 9:57
Tyler Rich (10) 9:59


Any more info than that?


As far as I know, only 3 Southlake Carroll runners have gone under the 4:40/10:10/XC cut-offs.

[drew713]

Southlake has three under that cutoff, but one is graduating.(Chris Moore)

[watchout]

Southlake has three under that cutoff, but one is graduating.(Chris Moore)

So instead of having 3 guys way ahead of the rest of their guys, and being a 3-man team, they'll have 2 guys REALLY far ahead of the rest of their guys, with a 3rd in no-man's land. Sweet.

[watchout]

Anyone have any info on Jesuit (LA) ?

This is all I can find on them:
Kevin Fitzgerald 11 Jesuit LA (17:10 LA XC) 4:26.96 1600m
Graham Williams 11 Jesuit LA (17:17 LA XC) 4:38.00 1600m, 9:50.52 3200m
Cory Guidry 11 Jesuit LA (17:19 LA XC)
Chad Guidry 11 Jesuit LA (17:29 LA XC)
Cullen Doody 11 Jesuit LA 4:36.81 1600m
Peter Flores 10 Jesuit LA (17:29 LA XC) 10:00.77 3200m

a 19 second spread #1-5 or 1-6, whichever, is pretty solid... and going by track times they wouldn't be WAY back in the pack, but not all that far up there either... I don't have a good way of using Louisiana XC times yet, but I'm hoping there are more track results floating around for them out there?

[bdub525]

http://www.ohstrack.com/outdoorbestperformances6aboys07.asp

oklahoma's best performances, excluding state

[watchout]

http://www.ohstrack.com/outdoorbestperformances6aboys07.asp

oklahoma's best performances, excluding state

is that the complete list?

I see...

3 from Union
2 guys from Broken Arrow
2 from Owasso
2 from Jenks
2 from Moore
2 from Norman

but no teams with 5 or more under returning. :(

[Heracles]

Regardless, Southlake Carroll will finish in the top 8 teams (probably 6th-8th) because their such ballers.

Also, Mayde Creek will probably be the other boys team to qualify for NTN.


I do hope that South receives some bids, especially on the girls side, whom have shown constantly that they are successful and able to compete at that level of competition.

For the girls:
Keller, Kingwood, Southlake Carroll (just because they always do good every year) --- the 3 to beat.

[watchout]

Regardless, Southlake Carroll will finish in the top 8 teams (probably 6th-8th) because their such ballers.

Also, Mayde Creek will probably be the other boys team to qualify for NTN.


I do hope that South receives some bids, especially on the girls side, whom have shown constantly that they are successful and able to compete at that level of competition.

For the girls:
Keller, Kingwood, Southlake Carroll (just because they always do good every year) --- the 3 to beat.

wait wait, you think SLC is going to be top-8 at nationals or regionals? I'd guess they have a pretty good shot at top-3 at regionals, as it would be hard to unseat them with 2 guys in the top-10 there. But at nationals, I think there will simply be too many runners in the race and their #3/4/5 guys will weight them down back into about 13th or 14th. Somewhere in there.

But anyways, what do you know about Mayde Creek? Anything from track?

And The Woodlands will still be my pick for #1 out of the South. That's some crazy depth they have

[Heracles]

wait wait, you think SLC is going to be top-8 at nationals or regionals? I'd guess they have a pretty good shot at top-3 at regionals, as it would be hard to unseat them with 2 guys in the top-10 there. But at nationals, I think there will simply be too many runners in the race and their #3/4/5 guys will weight them down back into about 13th or 14th. Somewhere in there.

But anyways, what do you know about Mayde Creek? Anything from track?

And The Woodlands will still be my pick for #1 out of the South. That's some crazy depth they have

I seriously don't think SLC will place worse next year, considering they still return their #1-#2, as well as 3 other runners. Look at the girls side, projected last? place finishing, ended up third in the nation. I also doubt that some of their runners had an exceptional race at NTN.


As for Mayde Creek, I *THINK* I saw one race in which 3 of their runners dipped under 10:00, though, none of them were like a sub 9:40 however.

[other rj]

is that the complete list?

I see...

3 from Union
2 guys from Broken Arrow
2 from Owasso
2 from Jenks
2 from Moore
2 from Norman

but no teams with 5 or more under returning. :(
i go to jenks and we had 5 under 4:42, but one is graduating.

[watchout]

Based on CROSS COUNTRY results of this year:

Guys:

7. CC Carroll - 7 (did not qualify for state) Region 4 (3rd)




you sure they didn't qualify for state?

I see 7 of them in the state meet results...

[duh...runna?]

you sure they didn't qualify for state?

I see 7 of them in the state meet results...

they were 3rd at regio IV

they finished 12th (last) at state

[LakeXC]

clear lake girls return 5, plus an incredibly talented 8th grader will be joining the team (i think she ran a 5:17 as a 7th grader), they got 3rd in Region 3, and i think 6th at state

Cy Fair girls return 6, they got 4th in Region 3

Yes Cl girls have extreme depth and 5 returing. Trust me i know. They CL guys have 4 returning but also have a very talented JV group which some will move up. Region III is going to be insane next year.

[duh...runna?]

Yes Cl girls have extreme depth and 5 returing. Trust me i know. They CL guys have 4 returning but also have a very talented JV group which some will move up. Region III is going to be insane next year.

is CL coming to AISD Zilker Invite this year ... you girls did last year, right?

[LakeXC]

The guys no we will not I dont know about the girls. We dont follow the same schedule as them.

[LakeXC]

is CL coming to AISD Zilker Invite this year ... you girls did last year, right?

We might go to Mcneil.

[TxStateGuy]

Plano West boys take 6th at state and they are not even talked about ?

[duh...runna?]

Plano West boys take 6th at state and they are not even talked about ?

awesome... only 5 teams in your class beat you.

let's not forget Lockhart, Big Spring. At best, last year you guys were the 8th best team in the state.

at best PW is looking at top 20 in the NTN South rankings.... in a PERFECT situation

[NYrunner]

Based on CROSS COUNTRY results of this year:

Guys:
1. Southlake Carroll – 5 (2nd state 06) Region 1 (1st) - Returns FL Finalist Colby Lowe (10th place) as well astalented CJ Brown
2. Mayde Creek – 7 (did not qualify for state) Region 3 (4th) – :24 seconds spread for #1-5 based on regionals results for XC;
3. The Woodlands – 3 (1st state 06) Region 2 (1st)
4. Cinco Ranch – 5 (9th state 06) Region 3 (3rd) Notable: Loses #2 (Kyle Goldsmith/7th at state)
5. Cedar Park – 5 (did not qualify for state) Region 2 (5th)
6. Georgetown – 4 (did not qualify for state) Region 2 (4th)
7. CC Carroll - 7 (did not qualify for state) Region 4 (3rd)
8. Del Rio - 4 (5th state 06) Region 4 (1st)
9. Kingwood - 2 (7th state 06) Region 3 (2nd) - http://texastrack.com/XC%202006/06xc_21-5A.htm; Returns an incredibly talented JV group


Girls
5A GIRLS
1. Keller – 7 (2nd state 06) Region 1 (1st)
2. Kingwood – 6 (3rd state 06) Region 3 (1st) Loses #7 runner
3. Southlake Carroll – 4 (1st state 06) Region 1 (2nd)
4. Cinco Ranch – 6 (5th state 06) Region 3 (2nd)
5. Plano West - 5 (4th state 06) Region 2 (1st)
6. Lamar - 7 (did not qualify for state) Region 3 (5th)

Next year looks to be very incredible for Texas.

Track times for top texas girls teams?

[watchout]

Based on CROSS COUNTRY results of this year:

Guys:
1. Southlake Carroll – 5 (2nd state 06) Region 1 (1st) - Returns FL Finalist Colby Lowe (10th place) as well astalented CJ Brown
2. Mayde Creek – 7 (did not qualify for state) Region 3 (4th) – :24 seconds spread for #1-5 based on regionals results for XC;
3. The Woodlands – 3 (1st state 06) Region 2 (1st)
4. Cinco Ranch – 5 (9th state 06) Region 3 (3rd) Notable: Loses #2 (Kyle Goldsmith/7th at state)
5. Cedar Park – 5 (did not qualify for state) Region 2 (5th)
6. Georgetown – 4 (did not qualify for state) Region 2 (4th)
7. CC Carroll - 7 (did not qualify for state) Region 4 (3rd)
8. Del Rio - 4 (5th state 06) Region 4 (1st)
9. Kingwood - 2 (7th state 06) Region 3 (2nd) - http://texastrack.com/XC%202006/06xc_21-5A.htm; Returns an incredibly talented JV group

Next year looks to be very incredible for Texas.

Cinco Ranch: Was their 2nd senior Evan Godloin?

Who looks like the best 4A team? Who do they return?




And outside of Texas... anyone know who Rogers AR #5 is going to be? I couldn't find any track times for anyone beyond their returning top-4 (Roth, Hamilton, Surly, Efurd)

[trackman1989]

Rogers cant go to ntn and idk about ntn regionals because of arkansas athletic rules and on the woodlands subject it reed conner not conner reed, and it's michael golden

[Heracles]

Cinco Ranch: Was their 2nd senior Evan Godloin?

Who looks like the best 4A team? Who do they return?




And outside of Texas... anyone know who Rogers AR #5 is going to be? I couldn't find any track times for anyone beyond their returning top-4 (Roth, Hamilton, Surly, Efurd)



Cinco loses Jordan Mcgowan (Sr.). Evan Godloin is a junior I believe. As for 4A I'm not to sure :confused:.

[trackman1989]

idk if anyone already knows this or not but south lake carroll of texas is getting a new guy. He is a freshman that has ran 9:41 3200 and a 4:25 1600.

[watchout]

idk if anyone already knows this or not but south lake carroll of texas is getting a new guy. He is a freshman that has ran 9:41 3200 and a 4:25 1600.

oh really? well that would certainly help their lack of depth...

[duh...runna?]

idk if anyone already knows this or not but south lake carroll of texas is getting a new guy. He is a freshman that has ran 9:41 3200 and a 4:25 1600.

and the rich keep getting richer...

oh really? well that would certainly help their lack of depth...

yes it will.