Section IX

[boon322]

Any guys from Section IX on these new boards yet... the New York forum is kinda dead for anywhere asside from sections I and VIII...

[dking323]

i am and i completely agree, the new york board blows

[webbinn352]

Where's all the section 9 guys going to school next year?

I'm headin to Ithaca to be a BOMBER

[candersonxc]

im back and i agree new york is a dull board

no college for me

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What are some of the top section 9 times in the distance events to date?
Have Raucci or Busby, or anyone else posted any fast times?

[candersonxc]

busby ahd a dual with onteora and he ran a 428 1600 and a low 940s 3200

matt kaiser of onteora was in both of those races and ran 429 and 952 theres some fast times for ya

[boon322]

Who is leading the section is sprints? like 100/200 and such..?
and anderson how's your season going so far?

[ToBeContinued]

Section 9
Kyle Obrien (MW)- somewhere around 15:54 for the 5k at red raider
Mike Mark(W)-422 1600
Mike Segal(W)-9:40 3200
Greenlaw(W)-9:45
Prial(W)-9:47

Section 9 is really impoving as a whole

[dking323]

improving yes, mostly because indoors was very slow

[candersonxc]

obrien raan 1552 and jose ran 1606 in the 5k

i ran a 1608 and tom casey ran 1612

id say thats a good showing for us in the 5k it was mad fun to run it in the dark

[GoldbacksXCTF]

What are some of the top section 9 times in the distance events to date?
Have Raucci or Busby, or anyone else posted any fast times?

Jason Lakritz (NFA) ran 4:28.7 at Red Raider in the open 1600 (Jamieson -NR, Bean - Somers took it out in a slow 69). Jason went 2:15 / 2:13 but got third. He anchored our winning 10:36.08 DMR in 4:22 and SMR in 2:01. Jason also ran 4:26.8 and 1:59.1 against Pine Bush.

[king zora]

T wolfe of trivalley is running fast as well in section 9, aside from his 612 steeple performance he popped a 941 this weekend in a 3200m. I say the 3200m in the county meet this year will be an intense one.

[Slowpoke]

What going on with the Newburgh sprinters ??? I see that they ran 3:25 (what the heck is that...They ran 3:17 indoor) in the 4x400 and didn't make the finals in the 4x100. Also that Stubbs guy failed to make the finals in the 400 after running 48.22 indoor. What's going on in Newburgh?

[GoldbacksXCTF]

What going on with the Newburgh sprinters ??? I see that they ran 3:25 (what the heck is that...They ran 3:17 indoor) in the 4x400 and didn't make the finals in the 4x100. Also that Stubbs guy failed to make the finals in the 400 after running 48.22 indoor. What's going on in Newburgh?

Ease up Slowpoke.....our sprinters are fine. The Red Raider Relays were a combination of open and relay events. We can't win everything with top of the leaderboard times. We won the 4x2 (but we got DQ'ed for passing before the zone!), the 4x4, the sprint medley and distance medley. All of these races were nearly back to back. We had to choose some places to focus with our top athletes and we did just fine.

Stubbs and Bowden went 1-2 in the 200, Jackson ran 50.11 and Stubbs was on pace to run in the 48's in the trials and eased up a bit too much the last 50m and missed the finals by .01 seconds.

Not one of our relays (except for maybe the DMR) was run with our "A" team and yet we topped 38 other schools. It's only mid April 'Poke...States are in June. I'm glad you are concerned about us but we will be on top of our game when it counts.

[Slowpoke]

You guys have been on top for the last 3 years, I guess since Coleman is gone so is the donimation of Newburgh sprints.

Other than Jason and that fluke 3.17 indoor Newburgh is done!!

No disrespect, just telling it like it is.

[GoldbacksXCTF]

You guys have been on top for the last 3 years, I guess since Coleman is gone so is the donimation of Newburgh sprints.

Other than Jason and that fluke 3.17 indoor Newburgh is done!!

No disrespect, just telling it like it is.

Wow, what a critic! Missing the 4x400 New York State Record by .08 was hardly a fluke. You obviously don't see us run that often if you are inclined to make a statement like that.

Run fast enough to get to States and you'll get to see the NFA sprint team in action there.

Enough already!

[MonWoodrunner]

Anyone notice that Mike Mark ran a 4:23....last i checked that's not too bad

[backtoback]

Yeah, solid time by Mark who also split 49.1 and a 49.3 on the relays thus far...Some other great times at Red Raider for Section 9.

Side Note to SlowPoke: Don't worry about Newburgh it's early season and they always have their act together in the end. To do what they have done this year without Elzie Coleman is just incredible and a tribute to the dedication of their athletes and coaching staff. Keep up the great work NFA..

Anyone noticing how good Kingston has become all around?

[GoldbacksXCTF]

They looked really good at Red Raider and should make a lot of noise in the County and Section meets. Great job by their athletes and coaches.

BTW - Mark has been very impressive thus far. As a whole, Section 9 is getting stronger and much more balanced.

[Slowpoke]

I know that sectiom IX should be represented well at the Penn Relays in the distance.Dont know about the sprints.
The city teams are going to do their thing.. Let's go Dewitt !!!! :p

I seen Newburgh in action and they don't impress me at all.. don't forget this is a new year.. Who know you guy's might win the 4x100 this year at states or even the 4x400 :p ... will you guys run at Penns ?

[Trackstar2001]

I went to High School over at Valley Central and Graduated in 2001. When i heard Newburgh was on the move with Elzie Coleman, i went there to see him run. Enough to say very impressive. Then the following year, after he was gone, Newburgh was STILL in the 4x200 and 4x400 basically just dominating section 9 and everyone else they faced. The Goldbacks yet again this year have an outstanding team. I think there more balanced this year now that they have a decent distance team. It was NO FLUKE they ran a 3:17 4x400 in the indoor season this past year and it won't be a fluke when they break the NYS record and hopefully beat Poly Beach CA to win the National Title in either the 4x200 or 4x400. Do not underestimate this team, they are going to shock people this year. On a side note i would just like to say congrats to the Newburgh coaches for developing such a great team.
LONG LIVE SECTION 9 TRACK.
GO V.C!! Good Luck Coach Introini

[MonWoodrunner]

I have a question for Slowpoke: Where did you see the NFA sprinters because often their top 4 or 5 guys don't go with the rest of the team to certain meets. You were probably watching their "B" or "C" team and didn't know it, because their sprinters are very good and will be in serious contention for a state and national title in both 4x2 and 4x4.

[AnchorMan]

Why are people even questioning if Newburgh is going to do good outdoors? Of course they will continue to do good, why wouldn't they? they hav same top people coming back from indoor

BTW- To Slowpoke, Newburgh usally only stacks their relays in big meets... that 325 u were talking about was probly with a B' or C' team, which is still really good for a 2nd string team

[It can be done]

No disrespect Slowpoke but, I think that your threat name speaks for its self...Beleive me, Newburgh sprinters will be there when it count. I heard that they are using this Saturday's Pearl River meet as a tune up for Penn Relays.
so do not be so slow to check out the post meet write up. Oh by the way, I also heard that they have three (3) jumpers over 42' 5'' in the triple jump. Do your home work and tell me how far their top jumpers jumped the other day
in both jumps.


What going on with the Newburgh sprinters ??? I see that they ran 3:25 (what the heck is that...They ran 3:17 indoor) in the 4x400 and didn't make the finals in the 4x100. Also that Stubbs guy failed to make the finals in the 400 after running 48.22 indoor. What's going on in Newburgh?

[Slowpoke]

Ok Newburgh's top jumper went over 45 ft in the triple...Where did they get this guy(thy must recruit)? during the indoor season he was no where on the scene.
Let me tell you guys this, Im no hating on Newburgh or anything like that it just that it's always something with that team.Do they still have that sprint coach Burks (the guy with the funny hat) it must be GoldbacksXCTF. Get it together coach. A decent distance team !! I beg the differ Jason hasnt broke 2:00 in the 800m. The only team that is making a little noice in section IX is Warwick and I guess the hurdler from Middletown.
No matter what!! you guys will never be as good as the PSAL or not even Section I . :D


Newburgh is in trouble in the 4x400 Semi's

Event 218
A Wolmer's Boys' JA
B Long Beach Poly CA
C Camperdown JA
D Deep Creek VA
E Cornwall College JA
F Newburgh Free Academy NY
G Herbert Morrison JA
H Glen Mills PA
I Bridgeport Comprehensive JA
J Cumberland Valley PA
K Gaithersburg MD
L Old Bridge NJ

[AnchorMan]

Ok Newburgh's top jumper went over 45 ft in the triple...Where did they get this guy(thy must recruit)? during the indoor season he was no where on the scene.
Let me tell you guys this, Im no hating on Newburgh or anything like that it just that it's always something with that team.Do they still have that sprint coach Burks (the guy with the funny hat) it must be GoldbacksXCTF. Get it together coach. A decent distance team !! I beg the differ Jason hasnt broke 2:00 in the 800m. The only team that is making a little noice in section IX is Warwick and I guess the hurdler from Middletown.
No matter what!! you guys will never be as good as the PSAL or not even Section I . :D


Newburgh is in trouble in the 4x400 Semi's

Event 218
A Wolmer's Boys' JA
B Long Beach Poly CA
C Camperdown JA
D Deep Creek VA
E Cornwall College JA
F Newburgh Free Academy NY
G Herbert Morrison JA
H Glen Mills PA
I Bridgeport Comprehensive JA
J Cumberland Valley PA
K Gaithersburg MD
L Old Bridge NJ





-Jason has definetly broken 2 in the 800m. At OCLS and Section 9 Champs his 800m split enroute to the 1000m was 202ish and he runs a low 420 mile so don't say he hasn't and can't break 2 in the 800m he has,can, and will break 2min in the 800

-Also don't hate Section 9 they have plenty of talent.....Busby in XC, Warwick 4x8 3rd @ States 6th NSIC, Newburgh 4x4 1st @ States and 3:17.x faster then any PSAL team also 2nd at NSIC, Alex Reid National hurdle Champ, Lakritz 4th at Indoor States in the 1600, Mike Mark sub 1:55 800m, Sam Stubbs 47.x 400m, and BTW Aislinn Ryan National Footlocker Champ, Milrose Mile winner, and many more state and national titles for her alone

[boon322]

Slowpoke, please do the boards a favor and remove your lack of intelegence from our pleasent conversations... newburghs slowest guy can probably beat you at any distance... if you don't think that newburgh has a solid team and don't think that section IX is at least a respectable area for track and field then I want to know your times, teams acheivments, and when you're going to get woken up from this wet dream of yours.... yeah thats right, your not awesome, quit dissing people and quit creaming yourself over your lack of greatness

[GoldbacksXCTF]

[QUOTE=Slowpoke]Ok Newburgh's top jumper went over 45 ft in the triple...Where did they get this guy(thy must recruit)? during the indoor season he was no where on the scene.
Let me tell you guys this, Im no hating on Newburgh or anything like that it just that it's always something with that team.Do they still have that sprint coach Burks (the guy with the funny hat) it must be GoldbacksXCTF. Get it together coach. A decent distance team !! I beg the differ Jason hasnt broke 2:00 in the 800m. The only team that is making a little noice in section IX is Warwick and I guess the hurdler from Middletown.
No matter what!! you guys will never be as good as the PSAL or not even Section I . :D


Let's set the record straight...

1) Our 45 footer did not compete for us indoors this year (he did last year)...he was a starter on our basketball team.

2) Coach Burks is still our sprint coach and continues to do an excellent job.

3) Burks is not GoldbacksXCTF... I am, and I am the head coach. I also have been involved in track and field for 36 years and coached on the college level for 22 years prior to taking over at NFA. With this in mind and the fact that I see our athletes in practice every day, I am probably in a much better position to evaluate our team's talent and pass judgement than you are. Still, you are entitled to your opinion.

4) We are the third largest HS in the state...we only need to recruit from the 2700 tenth, eleventh, and twelfth graders at our school.

5) We are always in the spotlight because our athletes continue to excel on the track and in the field. We also make news because we always DISCIPLINE our athletes when they break rules or cut classes. This generally becomes a matter of public record because of our high profile. We are willing as a team and school to take the good with the bad.

6) As far as our distance program is concerned, check the indoor results to see who the only team to defeat nationally ranked Warwick was this indoor season in the 4x8 (OCIAA's). We also ran 10:36.08 in the DMR last week and missed by one spot qualifying for the Championship of America race at Penn. The 4x8 cruised to an 8:19.9 against Monroe Woodbury on Tuesday. NFA's distance team doesn't have a lot of depth but has made our team considerably stronger this year.

7) Talk all the trash you want Slopoke because, as I said before, you are entitled to your opinion. But it doesn't take a brain surgeon to see that a lot of non NFA people disagree with you. What about returning this post to what it was intended to be? Let's focus on the great things happening at Kingston, Warwick, Middletown, and other schools in Section 9 and let the State meet and Outdoor Nationals sort out who the best athletes and teams are.

[Trackstar2001]

Ok first off, i have just become even dumber after reading your garbage Slow Poke. Newburgh is good, along with Warwick Valley, Washingtonville, Pine Bush and Valley Central, who by the way was running a 3:25 i believe 4x400 and under a 8 minute 4x800 last outdoor season. There team this year should be very competitive yet again. Now there are plenty more teams i can go on about from SECTION 9 who are good but to cut a long story short, Section 9 can hack whatever PSAL or section 1 can dish out. Two.....If you actually paid a visit to NFA, thats Newburgh Free Academy for your dumb butt, you would see that that high school is full of talent. That jumper is prolly just a tip of the iceburg. No one recruits, that school is just full of talent. Believe me i know, I went to Valley Central which is like 25 minutes away...Not even. So you can throw out your dumb idea about the school recruiting. Third of all, coach burk i believe is still with the team and he is the reason why there doing so well so really, you shouldn't insult a guy that turned a track program from a nothing into a state and national reckonized school. And last but not least, Newburgh only has to worry about two teams on the field in that semi-final, Poly Ca and Deep Creek VA. The rest are very good but shouldn't give Newburgh any serious problems.
So slowpoke do yourself a favor and be quite about things you don't know. Section 9 is just as good as any other team in PSAL.

[Trackstar2001]

[QUOTE=Slowpoke]Ok Newburgh's top jumper went over 45 ft in the triple...Where did they get this guy(thy must recruit)? during the indoor season he was no where on the scene.
Let me tell you guys this, Im no hating on Newburgh or anything like that it just that it's always something with that team.Do they still have that sprint coach Burks (the guy with the funny hat) it must be GoldbacksXCTF. Get it together coach. A decent distance team !! I beg the differ Jason hasnt broke 2:00 in the 800m. The only team that is making a little noice in section IX is Warwick and I guess the hurdler from Middletown.
No matter what!! you guys will never be as good as the PSAL or not even Section I . :D


Let's set the record straight...

1) Our 45 footer did not compete for us indoors this year (he did last year)...he was a starter on our basketball team.

2) Coach Burks is still our sprint coach and continues to do an excellent job.

3) Burks is not GoldbacksXCTF... I am, and I am the head coach. I also have been involved in track and field for 36 years and coached on the college level for 22 years prior to taking over at NFA. With this in mind and the fact that I see our athletes in practice every day, I am probably in a much better position to evaluated our team's talent and pass judgement than you are. Still, you are entitled to your opinion.

4) We are the third largest HS in the state...we only need to recruit from the 2700 tenth, eleventh, and twelfth graders at our school.

5) We are always in the spotlight because our athletes continue to excel on the track and in the field. We also make news because we always DISCIPLINE our athletes when they break rules or cut classes. This generally becomes a matter of public record because of our high profile. We are willing as a team and school to take the good with the bad.

6) As far as our distance program is concerned, check the indoor results to see who the only team to defeat nationally ranked Warwick was this indoor season in the 4x8 (OCIAA's). We also ran 10:36.08 in the DMR last week and missed by one spot qualifying for the Championship of America race at Penn. The 4x8 cruised to an 8:19.9 against Monroe Woodbury on Tuesday. NFA's distance team doesn't have a lot of depth but has made our team considerably stronger this year.

7) Talk all the trash you want Slopoke because, as I said before, you are entitled to your opinion. But it doesn't take a brain surgeon to see that a lot of non NFA people disagree with you. What about returning this post to what it was intended to be? Let's focus on the great things happening at Kingston, Warwick, Middletown, and other schools in Section 9 and let the State meet and Outdoor Nationals sort out who the best athletes and teams are.
I agree with you coach 110 percent. I now live in Westchester County so i have trouble keeping tabs on whats going on exactly in section 9. However i did hear that Kingston is on the move this year and as usual so is Warwick. As i stated before, i believe Valley Central should be pretty decent yet again as well. Coach Introini usually puts together a really good 4x400 team that can run 3:25 or so. You and Coach Burks deserve alot of credit for what you have turned that team into. Congrats to you guys and your runners. Good Luck this season.

[king zora]

) As far as our distance program is concerned, check the indoor results to see who the only team to defeat nationally ranked Warwick was this indoor season in the 4x8 (OCIAA's). We also ran 10:36.08 in the DMR last week and missed by one spot qualifying for the Championship of America race at Penn. The 4x8 cruised to an 8:19.9 against Monroe Woodbury on Tuesday. NFA's distance team doesn't have a lot of depth but has made our team considerably stronger this year.

GoldbacksXCTF, you beat the nationally ranked warwick only because warwick ran their "b" team and only one of their top legs.

[GoldbacksXCTF]

GoldbacksXCTF, you beat the nationally ranked warwick only because warwick ran their "b" team and only one of their top legs.[/QUOTE]

You are correct. We are not in the same league with Warwick's "A" team. Their underestimation of our 4x8 however, allowed us to win that race at OCIAA's and ultimately secured our team victory. Their coaches are smart though and ran the "A" team at the section 9 Class A Meet and State Quals and nobody came close to them.

My point wasn't that we have a better 4x8....it was just that we were one of the better Section 9 teams in that event and the only one to beat any version of Warwick's 4x8.

[backtoback]

I don't think it was a matter of underestimating NFA in the 4x8 but a matter of using Warwick's top atheltes in other events for points. Warwick has never underestimated anybody. And correction of king zora, if you look at the results Warwick ran Jardine, Gallagher, Ackerman, and Kolesar, and not 1 of those is Warwick's top legs.
Why doesn't every one stop bashing on NFA, I believe we understood what Coach Mager's point was on the 4x8 and I believe slowpoke has some issues far beyond anybody's control. NFA is doing a great job both Coach Mager (Head Coach) and Coach Burks (sprints).
As far as Valley Central is concerned yes they ran 7:57 last year and 3:23.ish and Coach Intro lives for those relays but as far as a TEAM (jumps,throws,hurdles,sprints,distance)they don't really have it yet, as shown by their loss to Washingtonville this week.
Good luck to all.

[pelican]

actually, section 1 > section 9.

[andrew880y]

i agree with him except for him saying how they beat warwick at OCIAAs. Yes they did beat them, but that was warwicks B or C 4x8 team and a very slow time, 8:20s i think. Everything else i agree with. Slowpoke, if you are going to bash jason for "not breaking 2" then why dont we get to hear what times you run. He did place 4th at the nys indoor state meet in the mile. What do you have to say for yourself? What have you won or where have you placed highly? I bet you are one of those kids who hasnt even broke 4:40 in a mile and you just like to talk poorly about a program since they are good. I might be wrong, who knows, you might be a 4:15 miler but i doubt it.

[king zora]

Gezic, shut your yap and get off these boards. :rolleyes:

[Slowpoke]

I see that Newburgh has gotten better over the weekend the 3:23 isn't bad but you guys gotta get better than that if you want to compete with us. Whats this talk about a "B"team ? Newburgh ran it's A team in the 4x100 and only ran 43.6 not bad for a section IX team..
As far as my team and times thats none of your business..but I will tell you this we beat Newburgh many times.They Lost the states last year and they are gonna lose again. As far as the best section you guys IX is always on the bottom. Yea you may have a couple of guy (1 or 2 ) a year that stand out but that's it.


6) As far as our distance program is concerned, check the indoor results to see who the only team to defeat nationally ranked Warwick was this indoor season in the 4x8 (OCIAA's). We also ran 10:36.08 in the DMR last week and missed by one spot qualifying for the Championship of America race at Penn. The 4x8 cruised to an 8:19.9 against Monroe Woodbury on Tuesday. NFA's distance team doesn't have a lot of depth but has made our team considerably stronger this year.

I cant believe that your proud of your "A" team beating Warwick "D" team
Come on I know you can do better than that !!!! That 8:19.9.. I hope you were cruising (I doubt it) That time wouldn't win in the state of Alaska.
But if that the best... Congrats on a great time. See you guys at PENNS :p

[Slowpoke]

I see that Newburgh has gotten better over the weekend the 3:23 isn't bad but you guys gotta get better than that if you want to compete with us. Whats this talk about a "B"team ? Newburgh ran it's A team in the 4x100 and only ran 43.6 not bad for a section IX team..
As far as my team and times thats none of your business..but I will tell you this we beat Newburgh many times.They Lost the states last year and they are gonna lose again. As far as the best section you guys IX is always on the bottom. Yea you may have a couple of guy (1 or 2 ) a year that stand out but that's it.

1 Newburgh Free Academy 43.6 James Johnson John Bowden Ed Jackson SamStubbs
2 Ramapo 44.3
3 Nyack 44.8
3 Albertus Magnus 45.2
5 Spring Valley 45.4



6) As far as our distance program is concerned, check the indoor results to see who the only team to defeat nationally ranked Warwick was this indoor season in the 4x8 (OCIAA's). We also ran 10:36.08 in the DMR last week and missed by one spot qualifying for the Championship of America race at Penn. The 4x8 cruised to an 8:19.9 against Monroe Woodbury on Tuesday. NFA's distance team doesn't have a lot of depth but has made our team considerably stronger this year.

I cant believe that your proud of your "A" team beating Warwick "D" team
Come on I know you can do better than that !!!! That 8:19.9.. I hope you were cruising (I doubt it) That time wouldn't win in the state of Alaska.
But if that the best... Congrats on a great time. See you guys at PENNS :p

[sprinter200]

slowpoke, whats your problem with newburgh and section IX

[AnchorMan]

3:23.72 DeWitt Clinton (PSAL)(Outdoors) NY Relays and placed 7th at NSIC

thats a good time SlowPoke.....


But Newburgh 3:17(Indoors) and NYS champions.....it speaks for itself

Also which one are you Charles Phipps or Lowery Rhoden? ;) because you were talking abput NYS Champs last year when DeWitt Clinton edged Newburgh and those are the only two returning guys from that relay team so my guess you are one those people

[GoldbacksXCTF]

3:23.72 DeWitt Clinton (PSAL)(Outdoors) NY Relays and placed 7th at NSIC

thats a good time SlowPoke.....


But Newburgh 3:17(Indoors) and NSIC champions.....it speaks for itself

Also which one are you Charles Phipps or Lowery Rhoden? ;)

AnchorMan....

We appreciate your support but I must correct your post. We ran 3:17.57 indoors in the trials at NSIC but finished second in the finals. We did repeat as the NY state champs in the 4x4 however and won the 4x200 at States and NSIC in '03

[Slowpoke]

This is what it's all about !! These teams a great and will show it at penn's
3:25 wont cut it. I do hope to see some NY teams in the championship 4X4 even if it's Newbugh. ;)



So much for a quiet competition.

There were still seven days before Thursday's official start of the 111th Penn Relays, but two high school 4x400-meter relay teams on opposite sides of the Ben Franklin Bridge were throwing verbal jabs last week.

The last Public School boys' team to win the Championship of America 4x400-meter relay was West Philadelphia, back in 1983.

Simon Gratz is out to change that.

"It won't be disappointing [if we fail] because we accomplished so much in the past," said James Farrall, one of the Gratz speedsters. "I'm just glad that we participated. But I doubt that we lose."

Hear that, Camden?

"It's our year. Point blank," said Carl Smith, one of the Camden foursome. "I mean, Simon Gratz has a good team. They've got a young team, and I have nothing but respect for them. . . . But it's our year. And that's all I got to say."

Actually, that wasn't all. The senior added that Camden hadn't had the opportunity to race Gratz this season.

"If we would have had the chance, it never would have been close," Smith said. "You can put that on the record. It would not have been close!"

Stay tuned. That race is scheduled for Saturday at 5:05 p.m.

While time will tell if Smith can back up his words, the senior has reason to be confident. Unlike Gratz or any other area team, Camden has made five Championship of America appearances in the last seven years.

The Panthers won the race in 2001 and finished third last season. Camden was also the 2004 Championship of America runner-up in the 4x100.

This year's 4x400 team features Smith and Kevin Payton, both of whom are capable of running 46-second splits.

Smith ran a 47.3 third leg, and Payton posted a 47.1 time as the anchor as Camden was third in 3 minutes, 13.58 seconds at last season's Adidas national meet.

The Panthers finished second in 3:23.02 at the Nike Indoor Nationals in March without Payton, who also plays basketball. But Camden coach Martin Booker said his quartet of Devon Burroughs, Sherman Goree, Smith and Payton can run a 3:12 at the Penn Relays.

However, Khaliff Featherstone, Gratz's standout freshman who has run a 47.5 anchor split, said the Bulldogs can run faster than that.

"I want to go 3:10," he said.

If Gratz does run that fast, it will be the first high school team to run a sub-3:11 at the Penn Relays since Northwestern (Md.) ran a 3:10.35 to win the Championship of America in 1999.

The Bulldogs' quartet of Featherstone, Farrall and twin brothers Kevin and Kenneth Talley ran a 3:20.4 in their first outdoor race. But Gratz had the nation's fifth-fastest indoor time, 3:19.49.


Courtesy of phila inquierer

[webbinn352]

Slowpoke, seriously what are you talking about.

Section 9 sucks? Section 9 is at the bottom? Have you looked at the state leaderboards? If you haven't here is the link moron.
http://www.armorytrack.com/out05/nysb.htm

Section 9 is top 5 in the state in EVERY event except the 800. We OWN the distance events.

1600: 1,2,3,7
3200: 2,3,4,5,8,10
2k steeple: 2,4

If you want to talk about 4x4's we're solid in them too. Newburgh ran 3:23.94 FAT without their complete "A" squad and Kingston ran 3:25 sloppily.

What about indoor? Section 9 took claim to 3 National Titles, how many did you take?


I'm not hiding my identity Slowpoke. I'm Chris Winn from Kingston.

[AnchorMan]

SlowPoke i know you are either Charles Phipps or Lowery Rhoden from DeWitt Clinton...so which one are you?

[boon322]

Slowpoke... when i read your posts all i can see is a kid about 5'2" and white tugging on his shirt screaming "I'm the man!!!" and then brushing off his shoulders... :rolleyes:


your posting privlages have henceforth been revoked until you 1)man up, 2)tell us who you are, 3)respect newburgh for their accomplishments, 4)respect section 9 for the quality of athletes produced here, and 5) stop hiding behind a screen because im 100% positive that if you were FACE TO FACE with newburghs headcoach you wouldn't have to testicular fortitude to tell him that his team sucks and his section is a joke...

[VCkid]

Wow, i really don't like the kid because ive been told that he's an idiot but how bout Andy Klyne(sophomore) holding it down in the mile against Warwick running a 4:28.

[MonWoodrunner]

yeah good job andy...which makes me think, counties will be fun

Jason Lakritz 4:22
Mike Mark 4:22
Dan Busby 4:23
Dave Raucci 4:27
Andy Clyne 4:28
Travis Wolfe 4:30
Matt Kaiser 4:30
Mike Blake 4:30
Frank Pfaffenberger 4:34
Kyle O'Brien 4:35
(times based on Tullyrunners)

And i'm probablly leaving a few people out...
Obviously not everyone listed will be in the 1600 nor hitting those times (fatigue from other races) but that's a pretty good race 1st-6th

[AnchorMan]

yeah good job andy...which makes me think, counties will be fun

Jason Lakritz 4:22
Mike Mark 4:22
Dan Busby 4:23
Dave Raucci 4:27
Andy Clyne 4:28
Travis Wolfe 4:30
Matt Kaiser 4:30
Mike Blake 4:30
Frank Pfaffenberger 4:34
Kyle O'Brien 4:35
(times based on Tullyrunners)

And i'm probablly leaving a few people out...
Obviously not everyone listed will be in the 1600 nor hitting those times (fatigue from other races) but that's a pretty good race 1st-6th



also mike segal 429 and terrence fox 430

[Slowpoke]

Ok I'm back. I will try not to bash section IX anymore.But man was I hurt at Penns !! I took your words about Newburgh and you guys let me down.What happend were you guys missing someone ??? I knew I was right!! I told you guys that those times wouldn't cut it. Better look next time :(

[AnchorMan]

Ok I'm back. I will try not to bash section IX anymore.But man was I hurt at Penns !! I took your words about Newburgh and you guys let me down.What happend were you guys missing someone ??? I knew I was right!! I told you guys that those times wouldn't cut it. Better look next time :(

How did your team do at Penn? also "luck" is not spelled"l-o-o-k"

[king zora]

3200 at counties should be even more fun if everyone good runs it....

[MonWoodrunner]

all in favor of slowpoke not posting on this thread anymore so we can talk about something that doesn't include correcting him?


back to the last post..yeah the whole meet should be exciting... but that 1600 has 12 ppl within 13 seconds of each other and with about 8 ppl within 3 seconds going for 4th-6th place...i think it has great potential

[Trackstar2001]

Ok slowpoke, you really need to get your head out of your ass and go find a different board to post on because your really starting to tick off alot of people. Instead of bashing section 9 teams, especially newburgh, why not enjoy the sport for what it really is? The BOTTOM line is this. In every section, there are its power houses. Section 9 has Newburgh and Warwick with alot of other young teams out there showing alot of promise for the future. (Washingtonville, Valley Central, Wallkill, Etc) In PSAL, you have alot of great teams, no doubt about that but don't be sitting over there talking **** about section 9. Instead of talking crap, let your running do the talking!! And judgeing by your name, i don't think your all that good. So do us all a favor. Stop bashing section 9, stop wasteing board space and post something good for a change.

[Slowpoke]

Ok slowpoke, you really need to get your head out of your ass and go find a different board to post on because your really starting to tick off alot of people. Instead of bashing section 9 teams, especially newburgh, why not enjoy the sport for what it really is? The BOTTOM line is this. In every section, there are its power houses. Section 9 has Newburgh and Warwick with alot of other young teams out there showing alot of promise for the future. (Washingtonville, Valley Central, Wallkill, Etc) In PSAL, you have alot of great teams, no doubt about that but don't be sitting over there talking **** about section 9. Instead of talking crap, let your running do the talking!! And judgeing by your name, i don't think your all that good. So do us all a favor. Stop bashing section 9, stop wasteing board space and post something good for a change.


What the heck is wasteing ???
is that kinda like look.

[VCkid]

Just leave slowpoke your not wanted hear

[webbinn352]

Crusaders tomorrow anyone?

[VCkid]

YES cant wait

[king zora]

tonight at warwick's friendship games there were some fast times run....

segal won 3k steeple in 940 with campione at 1010



greenlaw and prial went 1-2 in 3200 at 942 for greenlaw and 946 for prial


mark cruised a 426 followed closely by rock fox and ackerman

[backtoback]

also a 49.8 open 400m by adam lloyd (warwick) and 4x4 warwick A 3:26.x without Lloyd and 3:30.x for B team, and james fitzgerald warwick ran 1:59.6 open 800 and is now the 6th guy to break 2flat for team this outdoor. 4 others at 2:00-2:02.8

[Old School Moses]

tonight at warwick's friendship games there were some fast times run....
greenlaw and prial went 1-2 in 3200 at 942 for greenlaw and 946 for prial




greenlaw is seriously developing into a force to be reckoned with.

[Slowpoke]

WARWICK 20 year winning streak continues 145 stright dual meet ;)


PURPLE WAVE


I guess so !! Only in Section IX :cool:

I should move to that area and just completly dominate.

[backtoback]

you have to be kidding me

[Slowpoke]

you have to be kidding me


Thats the same thing I say..It's about time someone see things the way I do.

[GoldbacksXCTF]

WARWICK 20 year winning streak continues 145 stright dual meet ;)


PURPLE WAVE

Congratulations Warwick!! You guys have a great tradition of track and field excellence. Don't you have a 20 year or so winning streak in the Section IX Class A Meet too?

Also congratulations to Kingston for their dual meet championship in Section 9 Division I.

BTW Slowpoke.... It truly is time for you to step up and identify yourself if you wish to continue all of the trash talking. The only thing that you dominate in is proving to everyone your ignorance.

I'm sure Warwick, Kingston, Monroe-Woodbury, or NFA (et. al.) would give any NY team a good battle in a dual meet. Maybe it's time for us to also compare your performances head to head against athletes from these teams.

Are you willing to back up all the talk????

[king zora]

Slowpoke is just some noob who sucks and talks **** all day behind his keyboard and wont come out and say who he is.

[sprinter200]

slowpoke shut the f*** up, stop knockin other peopel accomplishments pu$$y

[backtoback]

Goldbacks XCTF said: Congratulations Warwick!! You guys have a great tradition of track and field excellence. Don't you have a 20 year or so winning streak in the Section IX Class A Meet too?

Warwick has not been in Class A in track for more than 5 years. I believe 2000 was there 1st year competing with the A schools, give or take a year.

[boon322]

slowpoke... in any section a 20 year winning streak is impressive... warwick is a very talented team with an incredible coach...

just to give you an idea-- one of the local newspapers wrote an article a while about the (50?) most powerful men in orange county... the vast majority of them were policemen, judges, politicians, etc. but amongs the ranks of these men was warwicks coach Mr. Tim St. Lawrence...
If you even so much as got to exchange words with this man for 5 or 10 minutes you wouldn't be talking about section IX and newburgh/warwick like this at all, you would be much more humble and much more respectful...

If you want anybody here to respect you even the slightest bit, post your name, school you represent, times you've run, and then be a little more supportive...

The reason people like track and field is because its you against the clock, not you against "that kid from _______"... regardless of who you're racing against track is all about personal acheivement which makes your team, section, state, and country look good... there's no "lets go kill them and score every point we can against them" mentality in track... theres no rivalrys that tear people apart and make them hate each others guts because theyre on different teams... a rivalry in track is two teams with similar abilities who try to have more guts and more ability than their oponants...

its scum like you that bring the outside trash into the great world of track and field with your "oh you guys suck, i can smoke you, but u dunno who i am!" crap... its scum like you who take the sport out of athletics...

so for now, just end your crap, try to gain some respect from people as opposed to pissing them off...

[Old School Moses]

can't all of us Section 9 track junkies simply get along? :o

[VCkid]

Slowpoke 3 national champs in 2 years is no joke for a section.. thats a pretty good accomplishment

[VCkid]

backtoback who are the 4 other guys from 2 to 2:02 in warwick and rock, loyd, mark, campione, fitgerald and who was the other guy to break 2?

[backtoback]

Fox is the other guy under 2:00
Ackerman (frosh)has run 2:02 high, jardine (soph) 2:01.low, kolesar (soph) 2:02.high (now injured), segal at 2:03.1 and patzelt ran 2:03.8 this year....

[Slowpoke]

Slowpoke 3 national champs in 2 years is no joke for a section.. thats a pretty good accomplishment

What three National Champions? You gotta be talking indoors.

[Slowpoke]

Slowpoke 3 national champs in 2 years is no joke for a section.. thats a pretty good accomplishment

What three National Champions? Heck there is a school that has that in one year ! Please I hope you can do better than that :mad:
Not only that, but you gotta be talking indoors.

[andrew880y]

What three National Champions? Heck there is a school that has that in one year ! Please I hope you can do better than that :mad:
Not only that, but you gotta be talking indoors.

Is that school your school? How many national championships have you or your school won? Why cant you own up and say who you are and what school you go to? Are you scared that then we would be able to make fun of you? If you can criticize others so much you should at least be able to tell us your real name. Since i would bet you are a soph who runs a 26 in the 200. I would love to see ANY team run against warwick in a dual meet in XC. You seem to forget that is factored into the winning streak. They always have great depth which is why they win so many dual meets. Also in track they always have top level runners/jumpers/throwers in every single event. Their top guys do what they need to for the team to win. Look at baxter for example, his senior year at the county meet he trippled in the 800, 1600 and 3200 and won them all. They have a great tradition that most other schools dont have. They have a steady flow of talent. You cannot aruge that. Now tell us who you are or what school you go to or some times you have ran. Pu$$y.

[Slowpoke]

I just about had enough of all this name calling. I might stop all Section IX from posting...You guys seem better at running your mouths on this forum than running your butts on the track.
Also who I am and what school is none of your business...Just know that I'm not part of your sad section. As far as Warwick, I think it a great accomplishment.It's just that if they were in section I or PSAL it would be a different story. I mean come on...look who they are competing against...
Mr. Tim St. Lawrence keep up the good work and I hope the rest of the section follow.
By the way my name is "SLOWPOKE" :p

[andrew880y]

I just about had enough of all this name calling. I might stop all Section IX from posting...You guys seem better at running your mouths on this forum than running your butts on the track.

Who is the one on here all the time "running their mouth" but you cant even let your running on the track talk for you at all. Way to contradict yourself. I want to hear what your personal running says on the track. Then that can speak for itself. Are you too ashamed of your times to back up the trash you speak?

[Slowpoke]

Ok this is what I will do for you guy's. When the state meet comes and as I sprint pass any guy from section IX, I'm going to call them a slowpoke, smile :D and keep on moving. So if you are running anything from the 100-400m or any relay up to the 4x400 when it's said and done you will know who I am. Then you can shake my hand, ask for my autograph, and I might just take a picture with you so you can show all your friends and then tell me I'm the greatest !!!

[sprinter200]

this is slowpoke on dyestat running his mouth about how he pwns section 9

[AnchorMan]

SlowPoke is on DeWitt Clinton just to let everyone know....

[boon322]

This text has been edited because of extensive vulgarity.

This text has been edited because of extensive vulgarity.

[FroshSprinter]

wow slowpoke it says here tht u have bronx borough championships at ur home track today.... if u are actually still on ur track team... meaning tht u havent been cut yet....let us see the results.... so maybe for once u can man up to ur times, or tell us who u r.... so we can let u no how many section IX kids own ur times(im guessing alot).

[Old School Moses]

Ok this is what I will do for you guy's. When the state meet comes and as I sprint pass any guy from section IX, I'm going to call them a slowpoke, smile :D and keep on moving. So if you are running anything from the 100-400m or any relay up to the 4x400 when it's said and done you will know who I am. Then you can shake my hand, ask for my autograph, and I might just take a picture with you so you can show all your friends and then tell me I'm the greatest !!!


You're assuming too much, you actually have to make the state meet first. And I'd hate to break it to ya, but your probable 26 in the 200 and a 56 in the 400 isn't going to cut it.

[boon322]

by the way slowpoke... i was taking a quick glance at the state rankings and umm.. warwick valley has 7 individual athletes ranked (not counting duplicates because we have a few ranked in two events) and two relays..., newburgh has 6 indivuduals and 4 relays ranked... your school only has 2 individuals and one relay on there... so why do you think you can own us again..? just refresh my memory :p

[Trackstar2001]

I just wanted to wish everyone who's competing in the upcoming championships good luck. Also i was thinking about this tonight when looking at some stats. When i was in 8th grade running Modified Track for Valley Central, we beat warwick 87 to 50 something? It was a duel meet and it was the last year (1997) they kept score for middle school track. That impressive duel meet record Warwick has, is that just for Varsity duel meets or overall?? Im just woundering. :confused: Also who looks good to win states for the relays and some sprints? I think that kid from Kingston Mike D (can't spell his last name) is looking good for the 100m. What do you guys think?

[backtoback]

varsity

[Slowpoke]

Sorry you guys for talking bad about SlowPoke he is a nice guy . He invited me over so I could learn a thing or two about track.Boy did I realize that I knew nothing about running at all... I fell like I can take on the whole section IX by myself....Come on think about it you guys we are nothing compared to them to be honest I know I'm not :(
Sorry Mr. POKE :( P.S. Can I please still come over today?


Sure son you can come over dont forget to bring your flats :)
By the way we will work on droping that 800m time from 2:13 to 2:05 that might get you to the state meet in your section.

[VCkid]

Elzie Coleman, Aislinn Ryan, and Alex Reid.... Coleman and Reid are indoor champs but thats still quite an accomplishment.

[sprinter200]

Sure son you can come over dont forget to bring your flats :)
By the way we will work on droping that 800m time from 2:13 to 2:05 that might get you to the state meet in your section.

slowpoke 2 05 cant get u into states, 2 05 can bearly get u onto Warwick's 4x8 "B" team......god..... ur so dumb

[backtoback]

barely? you mean can't...only good for "C" team

[king zora]

Slowpoke, please just get off the boards and head on back to your dewitt clinton friends , becaues your basically owned by all

[boon322]

barely? you mean can't...only good for "C" team

If that...

under 2:00
Mark, Rock, Lloyd, Fox, Fitzgerald,
2:04 or better...
Jardine, Ackerman, Patzelt, Kolesar, Campione, Pfaffenberger, Segal

thats 12 guys there... good for an A, B, and C team... so 2:05 would be a D team guy...

and slowpoke, im sorry to decline the invite to your place but im planning on sticking with the 110HH and 400IH for now... i don't wanna go from being a good hurdler (15.5 and 58.5 as a sophmore...) to a mediocore 800 runner with the help of a cocky PSAL kid... oh and im sorry about my 400h time... i hate to break your heart by telling you that its faster than your open 400... :(


edit::
i forgot to add that i bet if the rest of your teammates read through this and saw the crap you talk they would be ashamed of you... thats just some food for thought tho... :p

[VCkid]

Boon do u know who warwicks gonna run at fast times for there 4X8 "B" team and there times???

[bogota4]

If that...

under 2:00
Mark, Rock, Lloyd, Fox, Fitzgerald,
2:04 or better...
Jardine, Ackerman, Patzelt, Kolesar, Campione, Pfaffenberger, Segal

thats 12 guys there... good for an A, B, and C team... so 2:05 would be a D team guy...

and slowpoke, im sorry to decline the invite to your place but im planning on sticking with the 110HH and 400IH for now... i don't wanna go from being a good hurdler (15.5 and 58.5 as a sophmore...) to a mediocore 800 runner with the help of a cocky PSAL kid... oh and im sorry about my 400h time... i hate to break your heart by telling you that its faster than your open 400... :(


edit::
i forgot to add that i bet if the rest of your teammates read through this and saw the crap you talk they would be ashamed of you... thats just some food for thought tho... :p

reveal yourself, boon322...warwick runner?

[backtoback]

b team look for:
fitz/fox 1:59
Campione 1:59
Jardine 2:01
Segal 2:03 or Ackerman 2:02
---------------
8:02/8:01

[boon322]

reveal yourself, boon322...warwick runner?

you might not know me but my names jesse fuca, im a sophmore- hurdler

15.5 for 110h and 57.8 for 400h.... and yeah i run for warwick

how about yourself?

edit::

being that counties is coming up friday/saturday anyone have predictions? im sure there will be plenty of surprises especially in the exciting and stacked races like 800/1600/3200...

i think the paper predicted newburgh to win it but it should be a very close and exciting meet...

[MonWoodrunner]

NFA is a great team but they have NO chance against warwick it'll be
1 warwick
2 NFA
3 ???

[backtoback]

I wouldn't say no chance. Indoors NFA cleaned up on Warwick at that County meet. Anything can happen and it will be prob a 4 team battle for the title.
Good luck to all.

[Slowpoke]

Great match up at the SEC Championship, Coleman Section IX vs Hinnant Section XI. I think Coleman won the last match up....




Heat 4 Prelims
3 Shumaker, Demondrick SR Mississippi 48.00
4 Dardar, Reginald FR LSU 46.52
5 Coleman, Elzie FR Mississippi St. NT
6 Benton, Austin SO LSU 47.26
7 Barry, Damion SR Auburn 45.61
8 Hinnant, Keith FR South Carolina 46.60

[AnchorMan]

Great match up at the SEC Championship, Coleman Section IX vs Hinnant Section XI. I think Coleman won the last match up....




Heat 4 Prelims
3 Shumaker, Demondrick SR Mississippi 48.00
4 Dardar, Reginald FR LSU 46.52
5 Coleman, Elzie FR Mississippi St. NT
6 Benton, Austin SO LSU 47.26
7 Barry, Damion SR Auburn 45.61
8 Hinnant, Keith FR South Carolina 46.60



Elzie all the way....

[First To The Finish]

NFA is a great team but they have NO chance against warwick it'll be
1 warwick
2 NFA
3 ???

I wouldn't say NFA has no chance but they do have quite a few people hurt. I don't think Jason has run for two weeks and they haven't had all their sprinters running yet.

Warwick 104
NFA 77
Kingston 65
Monroe Woodbury 58
Washingtonville 49

PS - Hey Slowpoke! What do you say we score the OCIAA meet against your PSAL borough meet? You can even throw in another borough of your choice to make it even. The OCIAA's have about 24 teams. What about the OCIAA's against the PSAL Championships (5/29)?

Section 9/OCIAA.....do you think you can take this mouth down once and for all???

[backtoback]

washingtonville i feel is much stronger than monroe right now

[candersonxc]

how about cory reed in the 3200 today 941 for second

[backtoback]

nice race for corey r on a hot and windy day. race did not move too much until last 800-1100meters...overall 2milers did well with the heat

[First To The Finish]

I wouldn't say NFA has no chance but they do have quite a few people hurt. I don't think Jason has run for two weeks and they haven't had all their sprinters running yet.

Projected
Warwick 104
NFA 77
Kingston 65
Monroe Woodbury 58
Washingtonville 49

[/B]

Actual
BOYS
Team standings: 1. Warwick 110 points; 2. (tie) Kingston and Newburgh Free Academy, 88; 4. Washingtonville 62; 5. Pine Bush 43; 6. Middletown 33; 7. Monroe-Woodbury 29; 8. Tri-Valley 24; 9. Eldred 21; 10. (tie) Cornwall and Valley Central, 18; 12. James I. O'Neill 14; 13. Goshen 11; 14. John S. Burke Catholic 9; 15. (tie) Liberty and Monticello, 6; 17. Sullivan West 3; 18. (tie) Fallsburg, Minisink Valley and Chester, 2; 21. Chapel Field, Ellenville, Livingston Manor and Port Jervis, 0.


Results Link @ Times Herald Record
http://www.recordonline.com/archive/2005/05/15/locltrac.htm

Nice job by Warwick. Kingston had a great meet too. NFA scored well but was really hurt without Lakritz who probably would have easily taken the mile, placed in the 800, and anchored their 4x8. Looks like they lost about 18 points with him being out. Also where were their 400 runners Jackson and Little? TH-R lists Jackson in the relays but not in the open 400. Little was second or third in the 400 last year.

Still, injuries are a part of the game. Congrats to Coach St. Lawrence and his Warwick boys!!!!!!

[VCkid]

Clyne would of def taken Lakritz in the mile, he ran a 426 and was 5 seconds ahead of Mark. He ran that race alone

[First To The Finish]

Clyne would of def taken Lakritz in the mile, he ran a 426 and was 5 seconds ahead of Mark. He ran that race alone

If Lakritz had stayed healthy, he would have run sub 4:20. He ran 4:22 for a mile indoors.

[VCkid]

idk it would be close but like i said b4 he ran a 426 alone i think with competition hes pushin AROUND 420

[First To The Finish]

idk it would be close but like i said b4 he ran a 426 alone i think with competition hes pushin AROUND 420

Maybe we'll get to see them in a showdown at State Quals. Anybody know if Jason is running in the Class A meet on Friday??? What is wrong with him anyway????

[GoldbacksXCTF]

Maybe we'll get to see them in a showdown at State Quals. Anybody know if Jason is running in the Class A meet on Friday??? What is wrong with him anyway????

I'm willing to bet we haven't seen the last of Lakritz. We've just been very conservative during the recovery process. The last thing I want to do is jeopardize his running career at Florida State by running him too soon.

[andrew880y]

I think you will see a showdown between them at states. I am sure one of them will go after the standard this friday at the sectional meet. I think washingtonville wants to make a run at making states in 4x8. They ran 8:07 in the first meet of the year at cornwall when all their guys were fresh.

[VCkid]

What was washingtonvilles splits and who ran those splits

[andrew880y]

http://www.armorytrack.com/in05/cornwall.htm
1. Washingtonville (Matt Weinberger, Mike Palange, Andy Clyne, Sean Connors) 8:07.8

that was on 4/9 so i'm sure they can take 5 seconds off of that. They have 3 sophs on that team and another soph who has run 2:03.

[VCkid]

Yo i think VC could take 20 secs of by state quals and edge out Washingtonville once again....that was one of our "B" team runners at counties when we took third and its about peaking time for us.

[andrew880y]

It was also their entire team doubling except for one person. So that was why they ran a little slow. What do you think your VC team can run? 8:00?

[First To The Finish]

Yo i think VC could take 20 secs of by state quals and edge out Washingtonville once again....that was one of our "B" team runners at counties when we took third and its about peaking time for us.

Wake up VC! Don't you think everyone else is peaking too??? Besides Warwick, I think Washingtonville, Kingston, and maybe even Newburgh should run near the state quals time of 8:03.

It will be the fastest overall 4x8 race in Section 9 in a long time.

[backtoback]

First to Finish:
Last year when Sec 9 put 3 teams under 8:00 was a dream. That will not happen again. 1 maybe 2 at most. 2 is pushing it

[First To The Finish]

First to Finish:
Last year when Sec 9 put 3 teams under 8:00 was a dream. That will not happen again. 1 maybe 2 at most. 2 is pushing it

I agree, but I meant that we have 6 or more quality teams that makes for an overall great race.

[backtoback]

I will disagree only because of the fact that most teams will not want to race against Warwick in the 4x8 and will go in open events. Although Warwick is already under the standard and doesn't even have to win. They just need to run and make sure no other team hits the standard and take 10th place, or they need to take 2nd if another team hits the standard. Dont' take that the wrong way, I just mean that they seem to have a lead on the other teams that would possibly make some schools go open on top of the relays to get some qualifiers. For example,I would imagine Chris Winn from Kingston going open 800. I would also expect Clyne to run the mile just in case Washingtonville does not get in, they can still qualify somebody. Lakritz is awesome and he will not be denied the opportunity to run an open event. You know Warwick will be fresh in the 4x8. Washingtonville may try it but I wouldnt' count on it, and VC I would imagine going fresh only b/c they have a slim chance of qualifying anybody else in the individual events.

[First To The Finish]

I will disagree only because of the fact that most teams will not want to race against Warwick in the 4x8 and will go in open events. Although Warwick is already under the standard and doesn't even have to win. They just need to run and make sure no other team hits the standard and take 10th place, or they need to take 2nd if another team hits the standard. Dont' take that the wrong way, I just mean that they seem to have a lead on the other teams that would possibly make some schools go open on top of the relays to get some qualifiers. For example,I would imagine Chris Winn from Kingston going open 800. I would also expect Clyne to run the mile just in case Washingtonville does not get in, they can still qualify somebody. Lakritz is awesome and he will not be denied the opportunity to run an open event. You know Warwick will be fresh in the 4x8. Washingtonville may try it but I wouldnt' count on it, and VC I would imagine going fresh only b/c they have a slim chance of qualifying anybody else in the individual events.

Good point but I believe you are wrong on the state qualifying rules. The winner goes automatically even if they don't make the standard. Warwick needs to win or finish the race and have no other team make the standard.

Example:
If warwick finishes third, Valley Central runs 8:02.8 for first and washingtonville runs 8:02.9 for second....Warwick stays home.

[GoldbacksXCTF]

First To The Finish is right!

From the 2005 Section 9 Handbook:

New York State Meet Qualifiers: First Place automatically from each division from the state qualifying meet. Division I (600 and up) and Division II (599 and under) winner plus the next best finisher who meets the standard.

It used to be that you went to states if you were the only one (team) to meet the standard and then lost to someone at the quals who had not met the standard.

[andrew880y]

How does getting the standard work now a days? I know a few years ago it could only be hit in the county meet, sectional meet or state quals. No other races counted. So if the rule is still that warwick does not have the standard since then ran 8:11? at the county meet.

[GoldbacksXCTF]

The qualification procedure was changed slightly this year. You can achieve the state qual mark in any meet (invitational) beginning with meets the weekend of 4/30. This year (and in all future years I hope), Penn Relay marks can be used.

For seeding purposes at the states however, only marks from state quals will count for the "extra qualifiers".

There is still some confusion amongst us coaches but this is what I was told several times by our Section 9 track officials. I am open to correction if this info is somehow incorrectly stated.

[backtoback]

first to the finish: so if you read what i wrote i was right. warwick does not have to win, they don't even have to get 2nd. if the winning time is 8:03.1 or up warwick goes no matter what as long as they finish (even if 10th) sorry if you misunderstood me. warwick only has to get 2nd if the 3rd place team is also under the standard....

[First To The Finish]

first to the finish: so if you read what i wrote i was right. warwick does not have to win, they don't even have to get 2nd. if the winning time is 8:03.1 or up warwick goes no matter what as long as they finish (even if 10th) sorry if you misunderstood me. warwick only has to get 2nd if the 3rd place team is also under the standard....

Sorry BacktoBack!! I re-read your post and did misunderstand what you wrote. The newburgh coach is also correct about the qualifying method.

[backtoback]

Indeed he is, as he is on top of his game!

[VCkid]

What is everyones predictions tommorow in the open 8, 4, mile, and relays

[GoldbacksXCTF]

Indeed he is, as he is on top of his game!

Thanks!

I found more info on qualifying...I wasn't quite right about the seeding info.

Qualifying Standards for the third individual (or relay team) to qualify for the NY Outdoor State Track & Field Championship Meet

... The winner of each event in both Division I (schools greater than 600 sports enrollment) and Division II (less the 600 enrollment) from each section's State Qualifying Meet automatically qualify for States ... a third individual (or team) can also qualify for States from each section if they meet the State Qualifying Standard as listed below.

Update ... NYSPHSAA Meet Entry Marks ... Exact wording from state meeting minutes regarding the extra state meet qualifier:

"A proposal to change the time frame for meeting the extra entry qualifying standard was made. It was proposed that any performance made from the last weekend in April on would be accepted for entry into the meet. Only invitational meet performances will be accepted, no dual meets. For seeding purposes only performances from the last two weeks will be used. The proposal was overwhelmingly accepted."

So effectively, this means all seed marks used at the State Meet must come from sectional championship meets and State Qualifying Meets ... The "at-large" (3rd person) can hit the State Qualifying standard below before those meets, but the "at-large" will seeded at the State Meet with a mark from the sectional championship meet and State Qualifying Meet.

[VCkid]

It was also their entire team doubling except for one person. So that was why they ran a little slow. What do you think your VC team can run? 8:00?

Wat R u talkin about doubling up????

[MonWoodrunner]

Does anyone know if Lakritz is running today?

[andrew880y]

Wat R u talkin about doubling up????

its a common phrase used in track...running more then event. Normally when you double up or even tripple up, thats run 3 events, your legs are more tired and you dont run as fast as you would if that was the only event you were running and you were fresh.

[Kirschanka]

What events will you be running at state quals? Here are my predictions...(not in placing order)

800m-Mark-?-? this is a tough one

1600m-Clyne-Raucci-Busby

3200m-Greenlaw-Prial-Raucci

Steeple-Wolfe-O'Brien-Segal

4x8-Warwick-Washingtonville-Valley Central

Yeah...I'm not even sure if 3 teams go in a relay...feel free to criticize my preDICKtions8=========D~~( * Y * )

[sub5miler]

i dont think raucci is runnin the 2mile at quals but i could be wrong. but from what i hear he is savin it for the mile.

[backtoback]

no mark in the 800

[webbinn352]

warwick stackin 4x8 again?

[backtoback]

options to leave mark and lloyd off to go fresh for 4x4 to attempt standard. gotta see what happens monday night at fast times meet in warwick

but Kinston ran extremely fast 4x4 @ Sections so that changes things

[Kaiser2006]

i dont think raucci is runnin the 2mile at quals but i could be wrong. but from what i hear he is savin it for the mile.


raucci is not doin the 2 mile

[It can be done]

Who are your boys picks for the relays at State Quals?
These are mine:



4x800m relay: Warwick "Without a doudt"

4x400m relay: Kingston, Newburgh, and Warwick "This race seems to be up for grabs"

4x100m relay: Newburgh "They are the only team which made the stander"

[king zora]

Who are your boys picks for the relays at State Quals?
These are mine:



4x800m relay: Warwick "Without a doudt"

4x400m relay: Kingston, Newburgh, and Warwick "This race seems to be up for grabs"

4x100m relay: Newburgh "They are the only team which made the stander"





in the 4x8 , i think washville and vc got a shot at the standard....and from what i heard around, they will be goin for the standard....

[VCkid]

Wash might get it today because everyone is going out fresh idk if were gonna get it... 2 of our guys have got to go under 2 and idk if thats gonna happen with the weather.

[king zora]

Wash might get it today because everyone is going out fresh idk if were gonna get it... 2 of our guys have got to go under 2 and idk if thats gonna happen with the weather.

the weather might not be to great, but two years ago baxter split a 152. in the pouring rain, ancoring warwick to a 749 .

we shall see tonight what goes down...
good luck to all..

[VCkid]

wow watch out washingtonville 806 for VC @ fasttimes with 3 guys going @ 2 flat and they are all capable of going under

[It can be done]

Did anyone see how the 4x400m is shaping up. Last night Newburgh entered an "A" team which went 3:17.2 and a "B" which went 3:24.1 and they were both running one and two until the anchor leg from Warwick split them up. Now you have three 4x400m relays in section 9 who have met the state standards (Kingston, Warwick, and Newburgh). And with the new rule only two will go from the large school. This should be a hot race tomorrow at State Quals. Three teams who have ran under 3:21. in section 9, before the state meet, who would have guest. Way to go section 9, keep up the good work.

[Kaiser2006]

how did the 3200 go today???

[Kaiser2006]

congrats to busby, reed, and greenlaw...sick times

[king zora]

congrats to busby, reed, and greenlaw...sick times


busby = 911, all alone.......
wow

[teamhair]

wow watch out washingtonville 806 for VC @ fasttimes with 3 guys going @ 2 flat and they are all capable of going under
hahahaha

[andrew880y]

wow watch out washingtonville 806 for VC @ fasttimes with 3 guys going @ 2 flat and they are all capable of going under

Oh well, how many of those kids are coming back?

[MonWoodrunner]

Busby...wow...Raucci i thought he was gonna make it...

Washingtonville so close.. Clyne seemed tired from the 1600 and Conners didn't look his best...but good race it would be nice to see another section 9 team other than just warwick go to states.

[teamhair]

Oh well, how many of those kids are coming back?
all four judging by their grades...

[Slowpoke]

time For The States ....it's Time To Put Up Or Shut Up !!!!!!

[boon322]

whats with the enlarged font and multitude of exclamation points? was it really needed?

but being that you brought it up, what are you running?

[webbinn352]

i'm predicting section 9 nastiness, nothing less. You know who you are, you know you'll fu3k sh1it up

[andrew880y]

time For The States ....it's Time To Put Up Or Shut Up !!!!!!


Finals
1 Newburgh Free-I 3:17.78 2
1) Jarrell Warren 11 2) James Johnson 12
3) Ed Jackson 12 4) Sam Stubbs 12
2 East NY Transit Tech-I 3:18.09 2
1) Keichen Smith 12 2) Clemore Henry 12
3) Matthew Armstrong 11 4) Stephen McLean
3 Sheepshead Bay-I 3:20.99 2
1) Brian Furr 10 2) Andre Pinnock 12
3) Eric Rugel 12 4) Kabari Earle 11
4 Elmont-I 3:23.09 1
1) Atiba Liverpool 12 2) Jonathan Williams 12
3) Julian Crosswell 11 4) Daine Watson 10
5 New Rochelle-I 3:24.28 1
1) Jerome Jeffrey 11 2) Richard Jackson 11
3) Dwayne Martin 12 4) Rahim Bradshaw 12





NFA wins with a good time. Lets see what happens in feds tomorrow.

[VCkid]

time For The States ....it's Time To Put Up Or Shut Up !!!!!!

OWNED IN THE 4X1... LOL

1 Rome Free Academy-I 41.43 2
1) Joe Reed 12 2) Robert Register 12
3) Seth Gordon 12 4) Durell Cull 12
2 Newburgh Free-I 42.27 2
1) Ed Jackson 12 2) Sam Stubbs 12
3) John Bowden 12 4) Terrius McMillan 11
3 DeWitt Clinton-I 42.49 2
1) Bryan Cappers 12 2) Brian McManious 11
3) Mark Theham 12 4) Joseph Papino-Wood 12

[andrew880y]

You guys have been on top for the last 3 years, I guess since Coleman is gone so is the donimation of Newburgh sprints.

Other than Jason and that fluke 3.17 indoor Newburgh is done!!

No disrespect, just telling it like it is.



Alright, first off yes i am brining up something you said in the past. Fluke 3:17 indoors. This past weekend they ran 3:17 and 3:16. So i suppose fluke wasnt the correct word.


Ok this is what I will do for you guy's. When the state meet comes and as I sprint pass any guy from section IX, I'm going to call them a slowpoke, smile :D and keep on moving. So if you are running anything from the 100-400m or any relay up to the 4x400 when it's said and done you will know who I am. Then you can shake my hand, ask for my autograph, and I might just take a picture with you so you can show all your friends and then tell me I'm the greatest !!!


Sorry but i'm pretty sure it didnt happen much

Finals
1 Newburgh Free-I 3:17.78 2
1) Jarrell Warren 11 2) James Johnson 12
3) Ed Jackson 12 4) Sam Stubbs 12
2 East NY Transit Tech-I 3:18.09 2
1) Keichen Smith 12 2) Clemore Henry 12
3) Matthew Armstrong 11 4) Stephen McLean
3 Sheepshead Bay-I 3:20.99 2
1) Brian Furr 10 2) Andre Pinnock 12
3) Eric Rugel 12 4) Kabari Earle 11
4 Elmont-I 3:23.09 1
1) Atiba Liverpool 12 2) Jonathan Williams 12
3) Julian Crosswell 11 4) Daine Watson 10
5 New Rochelle-I 3:24.28 1
1) Jerome Jeffrey 11 2) Richard Jackson 11
3) Dwayne Martin 12 4) Rahim Bradshaw 12


Finals
1 Rome Free Academy-I 41.43 2
1) Joe Reed 12 2) Robert Register 12
3) Seth Gordon 12 4) Durell Cull 12
2 Newburgh Free-I 42.27 2
1) Ed Jackson 12 2) Sam Stubbs 12
3) John Bowden 12 4) Terrius McMillan 11
3 DeWitt Clinton-I 42.49 2
1) Bryan Cappers 12 2) Brian McManious 11
3) Mark Theham 12 4) Joseph Papino-Wood 12
4 Roosevelt-8-I 42.69 2
1) Marquise Herron 12 2) Daryll McClenic 12
3) Terance Morgan 12 4) Chai-Sen Pettus 12
5 East-I 42.89 1
1) Vinson Hendrix 11 2) Brent McGill 11
3) Sydale Dukes 12 4) Ezekiel Porter 11



Finals
1 Sean Cuevo 12 Yorktown-I 10.94 0.9
2 Durell Cull 12 Rome Free Academy-I 10.95 0.9
3 Mike Devereaux 12 Kingston-I 11.07 0.9
4 Terrius McMillan 11 Newburgh Free-I 11.12 0.9
5 James Massar 12 Johnson City-I 11.16 0.9
6 Rainer Fiala 12 Rye-II 11.25 0.9
7 Rex Hollenbeck 10 Dryden-II 11.29 0.9
8 Dan Schichtel 11 Eden-II 11.41 0.9




And you said our section talks a ton of trash and doesnt put up on the track. What have you done? We spoke on the track. Where were you? Now if you would so kindly tell us who you are, unless you are too ashamed of your performance at the state meet.

[boon322]

Does anybody know why Alex Ried got DQ'ed in the 110HH... and why James Johnson got DQ'ed in the 400IH?

by the way-- 54.2x from reid in the 400IH... thats incredible...

[GoldbacksXCTF]

Does anybody know why Alex Ried got DQ'ed in the 110HH... and why James Johnson got DQ'ed in the 400IH?

by the way-- 54.2x from reid in the 400IH... thats incredible...

James false started in the 400 IH

[Kirschanka]

Let's Get This Thread Started Again

[daydream_believer]

alright :)
i'm from section 9

[boon322]

yeah but 1st we need slowpoke to tell us all about how hes awesome at the 5k also... and he can beat all our sections top guys cuz were crap :rolleyes:

[sub5miler]

Let's Get This Thread Started Again i think this thread might be a bit to long we should prolly start a new one about xc maybe. speaking of xc hows everyones season going thus far?

[Kaiser2006]

gettin back into it...i lost 2 weeks of trainign bein sick

[daydream_believer]

hows everyones season going thus far?

mmmm its ok, I've been setting some new pr's, but I dont think I'm where I could be. and an old injury just started acting up again, which is not good. but we'll see how things go.

how about yours?

[the answer]

how bout we all tell who we are

colin anderson- cornwall

[sub5miler]

i thinkk we all know who i am but if u dont im cory reed from o'neill

[Slowpoke]

I'm only concerned about the sprints. Do you guys have anything this year ?
I know Newburgh is done, they will be lucky if they go 3:30 this indoor season.I know they graduated all of their sprinters except one.

[Kaiser2006]

matt kaiser from onteora

[sub5miler]

I'm only concerned about the sprints. Do you guys have anything this year ?
I know Newburgh is done, they will be lucky if they go 3:30 this indoor season.I know they graduated all of their sprinters except one.lets not get everyone all wild over that again and get this thread up to 50 pages.

[Slowpoke]

Tell that to Boon, I was quiet all season. So let's not wake the sleeping giant.
I still have about 1 1/2 months to sleep. :mad:

[SylvanRunner]

i'm dave raucci

[sub5miler]

Tell that to Boon, I was quiet all season. So let's not wake the sleeping giant.
I still have about 1 1/2 months to sleep. :mad:haha tru

[sub5miler]

i'm dave rauccihey dave hows ur season going? i heard u had a great race at the iona meet.

[Chuck Norris]

slowpoke your ugly. :)

[WallofCorn XC]

Cornwall is having a pretty good season, its going to be a good race for section 9 class A

[the answer]

Cornwall is having a pretty good season, its going to be a good race for section 9 class A


werd

[daydream_believer]

jessica lynch from o'neill

[Kirschanka]

My name is Johnny Knoxville

[Kirschanka]

Welcome to Jackass

[rhdistance]

dave raucci is my hero.

[sub5miler]

I cant wait for counties should be some very fast times this year based on what kids have been running so far this season?

[rhdistance]

I cant wait for counties should be some very fast times this year based on what kids have been running so far this season?

are u gonna be in prime shape for them?

[sub5miler]

are u gonna be in prime shape for them?idk i would really like to be but i havent been having the best season so far so i would say that i am just looking to be in prime shape for states and after but nothing else.