New Hampshire Cross Country 2007

[Pheidippides]

Returning 16s
Matt Paulson 11 4:12.63
Alex McGrath 11 4:20.09
Corey Sinotte 10 4:21.02
Brown, Craig 11 4:22.19
Dylan Summers 11 4:22.36
Ben Coutu 11 4:23.21
Ricky Hoyt 10 4:24.42
Bill Godfrey 11 4:24.47ci ('06)
Brandon Roy 11 4:25.77
Ethan McBrien 10 4:30.31
Chris Pietracarlo 09 4:31.86
Alex Beaulieu 11 4:32.60ci
Zack Campbell 10 4:32.87
Dom Puleo 11 4:33.03
Hayden Mitchell 10 4:34.20
Francis Hernandez 09 4:35.46

Returning 32s
Alex McGrath 11 9:08.60
Job Christiansen 10 9:31.95
Matt Paulson 11 9:33.0h
Ricky Hoyt 10 9:34.73Ci
Zach Campbell 10 9:39.72
Eric Malnati 10 9:44.16
Craig Brown 11 9:47.88Ci ('06)
John Little 11 9:50.57Ci
Sean Colligan 11 9:53.09
Joey Jordain 09 9:53.46
Ben Coutu 11 9:53.79Ci
Chris Apkarian 11 9:55.52
Matt Travilini 11 9:55.xx
Corey Sinotte 11 9:55.xx
Francis Hernandez 09 9:56.08Ci
Dylan Summers 11 9:56.xxCi (9:15 3k)
Ryan Haggerty 10 9:57.62


Baselines 4:36, 9:58
C- 1500 or 3000 x 1.073 (x1.08/ 1.0058)
c- Mile or 2 Mile /1.0058
i- Indoors

MoC
Paulson, Matt 11 15:25
McGrath, Alex 11 15:33
Summers, Dylan 11 15:42
Hoyt, Ricky 10 15:45
Sinotte, Corey 10 15:46
Little, John 11 15:49
Puleo, Dominic 11 15:51
Campbell, Zach 10 15:52
Brown, Craig 11 15:52
Godfrey, William 11 15:58
Hernandez, Francis 09 16:02
Christiansen, Job 10 16:07 22
McBrien, Ethan 10 16:14
Colligan, Sean 11 16:14
Clark, Christian 11 16:15
Apkarian, Chris 11 16:16
Bealieau, Alex 11 16:16

Class Meets
Summers, Dylan 11 16:35
McGrath, Alex 11 16:37
Paulson, Matt 11 16:40
Campbell, Zach 10 16:43
Little, John 11 16:48
Godfrey, William 11 16:55
Stilling, Matt 11 17:00
Puleo, Dominic 11 17:02
Travalini, Matt 11 17:04
Brown, Craig 11 17:06
Bealieau, Alex 11 17:07
Hoyt, Ricky 10 17:10
Mentas, Chris 10 17:14
Clark, Christian 11 17:14
Christiansen, Job 10 17:17
Sinotte, Corey 10 17:18

There's some stuff to think about.
I thought people might not be posting becuase the thread title of the other thread was ugly. I might create some rankings later.

[RUNNAKED]

Returning 16s
Matt Paulson 11 4:12.63
Alex McGrath 11 4:20.09
Corey Sinotte 10 4:21.02
Brown, Craig 11 4:22.19
Dylan Summers 11 4:22.36
Ben Coutu 11 4:23.21
Ricky Hoyt 10 4:24.42
Bill Godfrey 11 4:24.47ci ('06)
Brandon Roy 11 4:25.77
Ethan McBrien 10 4:30.31
Chris Pietracarlo 09 4:31.86
Alex Beaulieu 11 4:32.60ci
Zack Campbell 10 4:32.87
Dom Puleo 11 4:33.03
Hayden Mitchell 10 4:34.20
Francis Hernandez 09 4:35.46

Returning 32s
Alex McGrath 11 9:08.60
Job Christiansen 10 9:31.95
Matt Paulson 11 9:33.0h
Ricky Hoyt 10 9:34.73Ci
Zach Campbell 10 9:39.72
Eric Malnati 10 9:44.16
Craig Brown 11 9:47.88Ci ('06)
John Little 11 9:50.57Ci
Sean Colligan 11 9:53.09
Joey Jordain 09 9:53.46
Ben Coutu 11 9:53.79Ci
Chris Apkarian 11 9:55.52
Matt Travilini 11 9:55.xx
Corey Sinotte 11 9:55.xx
Francis Hernandez 09 9:56.08Ci
Dylan Summers 11 9:56.xxCi (9:15 3k)
Ryan Haggerty 10 9:57.62


Baselines 4:36, 9:58
C- 1500 or 3000 x 1.073 (x1.08/ 1.0058)
c- Mile or 2 Mile /1.0058
i- Indoors

MoC
Paulson, Matt 11 15:25
McGrath, Alex 11 15:33
Summers, Dylan 11 15:42
Hoyt, Ricky 10 15:45
Sinotte, Corey 10 15:46
Little, John 11 15:49
Puleo, Dominic 11 15:51
Campbell, Zach 10 15:52
Brown, Craig 11 15:52
Godfrey, William 11 15:58
Hernandez, Francis 09 16:02
Christiansen, Job 10 16:07 22
McBrien, Ethan 10 16:14
Colligan, Sean 11 16:14
Clark, Christian 11 16:15
Apkarian, Chris 11 16:16
Bealieau, Alex 11 16:16

Class Meets
Summers, Dylan 11 16:35
McGrath, Alex 11 16:37
Paulson, Matt 11 16:40
Campbell, Zach 10 16:43
Little, John 11 16:48
Godfrey, William 11 16:55
Stilling, Matt 11 17:00
Puleo, Dominic 11 17:02
Travalini, Matt 11 17:04
Brown, Craig 11 17:06
Bealieau, Alex 11 17:07
Hoyt, Ricky 10 17:10
Mentas, Chris 10 17:14
Clark, Christian 11 17:14
Christiansen, Job 10 17:17
Sinotte, Corey 10 17:18

There's some stuff to think about.
I thought people might not be posting becuase the thread title of the other thread was ugly. I might create some rankings later.



QFE

[Pheidippides]

Completely mathematical. Ranked by the sum of each harrier's top 3 speed ratings. Speed ratings haven't been published for most New Hampshire meets. Meylan made rankings for the MoC '05 though.
http://www.tullyrunners.com/XC2006/RatingsNonNY2005.htm#Hampshire
I used these ratings and created course conversions for various big meets over the past 2 years. Meylan also made a track/ xc converter.
http://www.tullyrunners.com/Articles/TrackSpeedRateChart.htm
Basically,
190 = 4:20.4m
= 9:22.8m
= 15:12 Track
= 15:20 Road
= 15:28 MoC ’06
= 15:36 MoC ’05
= 15:51 Manch Invite ’06
= 15:59 Manch Invite ’05
= 15:59 Class Meets ’05
= 15:59 NE’s ’06
= 16:09 VCP
= 16:31 Class Meets ’06
= 16:57 NE's '05
The rules to the rankings are as follows
-All 3 speed ratings must be over 1500 meters.
-At least 2 speed ratings must be over 3000 meters.
-At least 1 spreed ratings must be from an XC race.
So take Paulson for example,
Ran 4:12.63= 200 speed rating
Ran 15:54 NE's= 192 speed rating
Ran 15:25 MoC= 191 speed rating
His sum is 583
This sum is called Pheidippides points.:)

Since a speed rating over 5k represents 3 seconds of time and I found the sums of three different races, the difference in Pheidippides points equals the difference the runners will finish in my simulated MoC power rankings.

Then I just gave a guestimate as how the winner will finish. Then added the difference people were from the front finisher to find their times. Here are the rankings.


1. Matt Paulson 200, 192, 191, 583, -, 15:00
2. Alex McGrath 198, 194, 188, 580, +:03, 15:03
3. Dylan Summers 188, 187, 185, 560, +:23, 15:23
4. Ricky Hoyt 185, 185, 185, 555, +:28, 15:28
5. Job Christiansen 185, 184, 183, 552, +:31, 15:31
6. John Little 184, 183, 183, 550, +:33, 15:33
7. Zack Campbell 186, 182, 180, 548, +:35, 15:35
7. Corey Sinotte 189, 184, 175, 548, +:35, 15:35
9. Craig Brown 187, 182, 178, 547, +:36, 15:36
9. Billy Godfrey 185, 182, 180, 547, +:36, 15:36
11. Dom Puleo 182, 179, 173, 534, +:49. 15:49
12. Alex Beaulieu 178, 174, 174, 526, +:57, 15:57
12. Ethan McBrien 177, 176, 173, 526, +:57, 15:57
14. Matt Stilling 180, 175, 170, 525, +:58, 15:58
14. Matt Travilini 178, 175, 172, 525, +:58, 15:58
16. Ben Coutu 186, 173, 163, 520, +:63, 16:03
16. Sean Colligan 175, 173, 172, 520, +:63, 16:03
16. Christian Clark 176, 175, 169, 520, +:63, 16:03
19. Francis Hernandez 178, 171, 170, 519, +:66, 16:06
19. Chris Apkarian 174, 172, 171, 517, +:66, 16:06
21. Eric Malnati 178, 169, 169, 516, +:67, 16:07
22. Chris Mentas 176, 170, 168, 514, +:69, 16:09
23. Brian Paison 174, 169, 168, 511, +:72, 16:12
23. Joey Jordain 172, 170, 169, 511, +:72, 16:12
25. Jared Garfield 173, 171, 164, 508, +:75, 16:15
25. Brendan Repack 171, 169, 168, 508, +:75, 16:15
27. Dylan Grald 174, 169, 164, 507, +:76, 16:16
27. Chris Pietracarlo 176, 168, 163, 507, +:76, 16:16
29. Dylan Fisher 170, 170, 166, 504, +:79, 16:19
30. Brandon Roy 183, 172, 158, 503, +:80, 16:20
31. Ryan Haggerty 171, 170, 163, 502, +:81, 16:21
32. Joe VanGombos 174, 163, 163, 500, +:83, 16:23

[Sandy]

um...wow (acts like he's not impressed)

[Slow Runner]

Oh crap, francis hernandez will run 4 seconds slower than he did last MOC what a slow clit

[ZackCampbell]

7. Zack Campbell 186, 182, 180, 548, +:35, 15:35
7. Corey Sinotte 189, 184, 175, 548, +:35, 15:35

:D

[ZackCampbell]

Francis is at a whole different level than I was as a soph, and I ran 15:52. He will run a good deal faster than that. 16:02 as a frosh on that course.

[RUNNAKED]

Francis is at a whole different level than I was as a soph, and I ran 15:52. He will run a good deal faster than that. 16:02 as a frosh on that course.

Completely mathematical

[ZackCampbell]

Completely mathematical

Yeah.

[Pheidippides]

Oh crap, francis hernandez will run 4 seconds slower than he did last MOC what a slow clit

Don't worry Jorge. Run a solid XC race early and you'll find yourself with more Pheidippides points.

Zack, you're only ahead of Sinotte because of my alphabetical tendencies. Unless you're happy with the time?

The improvement from freshman to sophomore year is greater than in any other year. If I had done this last year there is no way Campbell and Sinotte would be under 16.

[ahsxcrnner]

i improve by 2seconds im happy :) but i place worse so idk how to feel bout this

[RUNNAKED]

Who is going to the londonderry jamboree for their first "meet"?

Howbout the berlin invite (probably my favorite meet of all time: beautiful scenery, clean air, cool temps, hard course, COLD WATER CREEK TO SOAK IN, aaaaand best of all TONS OF FOOD!)


sry bout that...whos goin

[BABAR]

The improvement from freshman to sophomore year is greater than in any other year. If I had done this last year there is no way Campbell and Sinotte would be under 16.

Proof that this system is accurate and serves a good purpose.

[Pheidippides]

Proof that this system is accurate and serves a good purpose.

It's far from accurate. I don't know any system that could predict improvement like Campbell and Sinotte had. From what Campbell and Sinotte ran freshman year, they didn't deserve sub 16 predictions, though it was a nice surprise.

This isn't even meant to predict. Its purpose is to basically compile and compare xc and track performances from the last year. The whole year can be seen in the list. Also, it brings good conversation.

[BABAR]

It's far from accurate. I don't know any system that could predict improvement like Campbell and Sinotte had. From what Campbell and Sinotte ran freshman year, they didn't deserve sub 16 predictions, though it was a nice surprise.

This isn't even meant to predict. Its purpose is to basically compile and compare xc and track performances from the last year. The whole year can basically be seen in the list. Also, it brings good conversation.

k.

[CVXCrunnerJR]

1. Matt Paulson 200, 192, 191, 583, -, 15:00
2. Alex McGrath 198, 194, 188, 580, +:03, 15:03
3. Dylan Summers 188, 187, 185, 560, +:23, 15:23
4. Ricky Hoyt 185, 185, 185, 555, +:28, 15:28
5. Job Christiansen 185, 184, 183, 552, +:31, 15:31
6. John Little 184, 183, 183, 550, +:33, 15:33
7. Zack Campbell 186, 182, 180, 548, +:35, 15:35
7. Corey Sinotte 189, 184, 175, 548, +:35, 15:35
9. Craig Brown 187, 182, 178, 547, +:36, 15:36
9. Billy Godfrey 185, 182, 180, 547, +:36, 15:36
11. Dom Puleo 182, 179, 173, 534, +:49. 15:49
12. Alex Beaulieu 178, 174, 174, 526, +:57, 15:57
12. Ethan McBrien 177, 176, 173, 526, +:57, 15:57
14. Matt Stilling 180, 175, 170, 525, +:58, 15:58
14. Matt Travilini 178, 175, 172, 525, +:58, 15:58
16. Ben Coutu 186, 173, 163, 520, +:63, 16:03
16. Sean Colligan 175, 173, 172, 520, +:63, 16:03
16. Christian Clark 176, 175, 169, 520, +:63, 16:03
19. Francis Hernandez 178, 171, 170, 519, +:66, 16:06
19. Chris Apkarian 174, 172, 171, 517, +:66, 16:06
21. Eric Malnati 178, 169, 169, 516, +:67, 16:07
22. Chris Mentas 176, 170, 168, 514, +:69, 16:09
23. Brian Paison 174, 169, 168, 511, +:72, 16:12
23. Joey Jordain 172, 170, 169, 511, +:72, 16:12
25. Chris Pietracarlo 176, 168, 163, 507, +:76, 16:16
26. Dylan Fisher 170, 170, 166, 504, +:79, 16:19
27. Brandon Roy 183, 172, 158, 503, +:80, 16:20
28. Ryan Haggerty 171, 170, 163, 502, +:81, 16:21

Jee I'm glad Merrimack isn't bringing back 4 of the top 30...


...

[CVXCrunnerJR]

couple interesting thoughts...

2-6 are from classes I,M,S.

3 of the top 4 class L runners are from Central

4 of top 9 are going to be juniors

Merrimack has 4 runners (9,12,23,28)
Central has 3 (1,7,9)
Conval has 3 (2,12,26)
South has 2 (7,22)
Kingswood has 2 (3,19)
Mascenic has 2 (5,6)
Guertin has 2 (19,23)
Pinkerton 2 (14,25)

[ZackCampbell]

Zack, you're only ahead of Sinotte because of my alphabetical tendencies. Unless you're happy with the time?


Haha, nah I just thought it was interesting. After all the ups and downs of the last 3 seasons (we both had our share), your math says we're even. :D

[Pheidippides]

Brendan Repack 171, 169, 168, 508, +:75, 16:15
Jared Garfield 173, 171, 164, +:75, 16:15
Dylan Grald 174, 169, 164, 507, +:76, 16:16
Justin Butler 169, 168, 165, 502, +:81, 16:21
Joe VanGombos 174, 163, 163, 500, +:83, 16:23
Josh Grant 164, 163, 160, 487, +:96, 16:36

Georgia Griffin 152, 141, 139, 432, +2:31, 17:31:D

We will see 30+ kids under 17:00 at Derryfield. Gonna be a good year.

So which teams will run the Manch Elite race?

[Aerobia]

Where do you keep the Pheidippides Points?

[BABAR]

Jared Garfield 173, 171, 164, +:75, 16:15



Does he still run? How'd he do on the track this year?

[MtownMiler]

Brendan Repack 171, 169, 168, 508, +:75, 16:15
Jared Garfield 173, 171, 164, +:75, 16:15
Dylan Grald 174, 169, 164, 507, +:76, 16:16
Justin Butler 169, 168, 165, 502, +:81, 16:21
Joe VanGombos 174, 163, 163, 500, +:83, 16:23
Josh Grant 164, 163, 160, 487, +:96, 16:36

Georgia Griffin 152, 141, 139, 432, +2:31, 17:31:D

We will see 30+ kids under 17:00 at Derryfield. Gonna be a good year.

So which teams will run the Manch Elite race?

Merrimack will be in the elite race at Manchester. Also, if those are MOC times why arent the first 3 included in your first post of top 30? There are so many people around the same time it's going to be such a good race. I already tried repping, but sadly I must spread.

[Pheidippides]

Does he still run? How'd he do on the track this year?

Word is Dan Maas is holding him captive in his basement. Stuck him on a treadmill, and saudomizes him with a frisbee everytime he slides over 6 pace. So his xc season will be interesting if he isn't still held hostage. He did escape at one point in early december and ran like a 4:20 1500.

If they did last year's race on Phedippides points.
Anthony Merra 189, 189, 189, 567, +:16, 15:16
Eyob Eyualem 189, 187, 186, 562, +:21, 15:21
Craig MacPhereson 190, 186, 181, 557, +:26, 15:26
Matt Paulson 185, 184, 182, 551, +:32, 15:32
Jake Christiansen 186, 182, 179, 547, +:36, 15:36
Alex McGrath 181, 180, 180, 541, +:42, 15:42
Job Christiansen 184, 180, 177, 541, +:42, 15:42
Ian Schofield 179, 175, 175, 529, +:54, 15:54
Billy Godfrey 185, 172, 171, 528, +:55, 15:55
Craig Brown 177, 176, 172, 525, +:58, 15:58
Dom Puleo 175, 172, 172, 519, +:64, 16:04

It looks like the juniors exceeded expectations and the seniors slacked.

I edited my original rankings.

[ShuttleCock]

Brendan Repack 171, 169, 168, 508, +:75, 16:15
Jared Garfield 173, 171, 164, +:75, 16:15
Dylan Grald 174, 169, 164, 507, +:76, 16:16
Justin Butler 169, 168, 165, 502, +:81, 16:21
Joe VanGombos 174, 163, 163, 500, +:83, 16:23
Josh Grant 164, 163, 160, 487, +:96, 16:36

Georgia Griffin 152, 141, 139, 432, +2:31, 17:31:D

We will see 30+ kids under 17:00 at Derryfield. Gonna be a good year.

So which teams will run the Manch Elite race?

He'll be at Harvard next year.

[CVXCrunnerJR]

He'll be at Harvard next year.

what?

[Sandy]

what?

you heard me

[Pheidippides]

http://www.coolrunning.com/results/07/nh/Jul21_40thBi_set1.shtml

5 1/20 M1619 26:11* 5:16 Job Christiansen 16 M 319 New Ipswich NH
~(15:44 5k Purdy)
5k split had to be like 16:20s.

Job ready to rumble.

182 speed rating, so I can't award you any more Pheidippides Points, but nice work.

Apparently a gradual incline in Mile 2 but a fairly flat course otherwise.

Elsewhere,
5 2/16 M1619 16:12* 5:13 Job Christiansen 16 M 567 Newipswich NH
8 3/16 M1619 16:28* 5:18 Chris Apkarian 17 M 395 New Durham NH
12 1/17 M1315 17:06 5:31 Chris Pietrocarlo 15 M 937 Hampstead NH

1 1/6 M1619 16:39 5:22 Chris Apkarian 17 M 352 New Durham NH

[Aerobia]

I wish Job would run 3 seasons and not 4.

[ShuttleCock]

Apparently a gradual incline in Mile 2 but a fairly flat course otherwise.

.6 mile hill, not too steep, but a bit more than just a gradual incline.

[RUNNAKED]

.6 mile hill, not too steep, but a bit more than just a gradual incline.

good job geoff, you never mentioned you were doing this race but thats a nice little time you've got going there.

[Pheidippides]

http://talk.dyestat.com/showpost.php?p=1968430&postcount=112

Watchout's Rankings

Merrimack
#2 Team eligible for New England Meet
#4 New England
#8 NTN Region
#63 National

Con-Val
#4 Team eligible for New England Meet
#6 New England
#10 NTN Region
#84 National

Looking like a 2 team race.

[nien nunb]

Word is Dan Maas is holding him captive in his basement. Stuck him on a treadmill, and saudomizes him with a frisbee everytime he slides over 6 pace. So his xc season will be interesting if he isn't still held hostage. He did escape at one point in early december and ran like a 4:20 1500.




Fine I'll let him go.

[Slow Runner]

i saw him today, he told me he doesn't run anymore because of soccer. He has a beard now.

[BABAR]

i saw him today, he told me he doesn't run anymore because of soccer. He has a beard now.

Is he good at soccer?

[CVXCrunnerJR]

http://talk.dyestat.com/showpost.php?p=1968430&postcount=112

Watchout's Rankings

Merrimack
#2 Team eligible for New England Meet
#4 New England
#8 NTN Region
#63 National

Con-Val
#4 Team eligible for New England Meet
#6 New England
#10 NTN Region
#84 National

Looking like a 2 team race.

He also mentioned that if Manchester Central could find a some depth to support their top 3, they should be on the list as well.

[Slow Runner]

dunno, i've seen him run and that's all i need to know.

[Pheidippides]

I am a runner. I am a women.

[Pheidippides]

http://www.coolrunning.com/results/07/nh/Jul28_Canter_set1.shtml

16:38 Dylan McGuffin
16:53 Daniel Maas
17:35 Dylan Summers


http://www.coolrunning.com/results/07/nh/Jul28_15thAn_set1.shtml

30:18 6:06 Chris Pietrocarlo
30:18 6:06 Doug Ainslow

[ShuttleCock]

Kyle, I hope to see you again at Thunder Chicken this year.

[run2thewall]

Team predictions anyone ? Any invitationals for anyone ? What race will everyone be in at Manch Invite

[MtownMiler]

I am a runner. I am a women.

Nate Grant?...:p

[at 133]

Nate Grant?...:p

wrong.

[Slow Runner]

wrong.

I love you

[Sandy]

I love you

you whore! i thought we had something special!

[Pheidippides]

I am a runner. I am a women.

I am a runner. I am a woman.*

Nate Grant?...:p

Bad Guess.

[at 133]

I love you

i'm single now...

[RUNNAKED]

i'm single now...

I call dibbs on the primary hole

[at 133]

I call dibbs on the primary hole

which explains precisely why you ditched me and haven't called me since you've been home :(

[LongRedLine4H]

I call dibbs on the primary hole

shotgun anus!

[Sandy]

I am a runner. I am a woman.*



Bad Guess.

GRACIE!!!

[Pheidippides]

http://www.coolrunning.com/results/07/ma/Aug11_CHILMA_set1.shtml

Eyob Eyualem 18 M Vineyard Haven MA 15:35.1* 5:01

Did he always live in Mass?

[Lane of High Hopes]

http://www.coolrunning.com/results/07/ma/Aug11_CHILMA_set1.shtml

Eyob Eyualem 18 M Vineyard Haven MA 15:35.1* 5:01

Did he always live in Mass?

Spends his summers there.

[Pheidippides]

New Hampshire has 5 of the top 22 teams in the Northeast minus New York apparently. Should be exciting.

http://www.dyestat.com//?pg=us2007NTNNortheastPreSeasonRankings

[CVXCrunnerJR]

How much longer is running in lane 6 of a track as opposed to running in lane 1?

[Lane of High Hopes]

http://www.philsport.com/narf/atrack.htm

[RUNNAKED]

Jamboree is in 7 days (if it ever gets sanctioned:p )

Who is going and who do you guys think will take the imaginary win?

Edit: Winning the jamboree consists of the first team to get 5 runners with free cookies in their belly before the other team

[MtownMiler]

Jamboree is in 7 days (if it ever gets sanctioned:p )

Who is going and who do you guys think will take the imaginary win?


Merrimack goes every year.


Edit: Winning the jamboree consists of the first team to get 5 runners with free cookies in their belly before the other team

Also the first team to throw up on the cool down... FTW! Well...it's happened to me anyways.


Who else is doing the Souhegan Relays?

[DuchMan]

Jamboree is in 7 days (if it ever gets sanctioned:p )

The meet is sanctioned bro

[ahsxcrnner]

were going to the relays we should have a pretty good team where just putting our 3 best guys on one team

[ahsxcrnner]

i thought the realys where the 9th

[GBGRunner]

i thought the realys where the 9th

well technically they are on the 8th but yeah, they're that weekend. I love the relay meet but I wish we'd put our top 3 on one team. My coach likes to even out the teams though, so we never actually have a chance of winning haha

[CVXCrunnerJR]

Conval will be at the saber relays.

[flayr20]

we'll be at the relays as always.

so the first meet's in less than a week! who else is pumped for cross?

[ahsxcrnner]

would any one wanna do a two man relay with me monday at mine falls? One leg is 3miles the other 2 miles

[CVXCrunnerJR]

Hey, when does the Larry Martin newsletter come out?

[APK100]

First addition of the Larry Martin newletter should be out this week or next

[DuchMan]

http://www.dyestat.com//?pg=us2007-Foot-Locker-Favorites&PHPSESSID=093db8c58b1d33001fbe0afc0578eb7b

NH representin in honorable mentions!!

[GBGRunner]

Hey, when does the Larry Martin newsletter come out?

I just got mine in the mail today!

[run2thewall]

I just got mine in the mail today!

Well let's hear it

[GBGRunner]

Well let's hear it

According to the newsletter, class L guys should be a sweep for Merrimack, with Nashua South the favorite for second place. Central looks good and Pinkerton has potential, despite losing 6 of their top 7. Londonderry has some younger runners who are expected to step up to the plate, securing about a 5th place finish at the class meet. 6 & 7 will be up for grabs by any of the following teams: nashua north, keene, winnacunnet, and memorial.

The favorite for the individual title is the one and only Matt Paulson. Second place will be a battle between Zach Campbell, Craig Brown, Corey Sinotte, Billy Godfrey, and Dominic Puleo. Other contenders for individual honors include Matt Travalini, Matt Stilling, Francis Hernandez, and Merrimack's second guy (Alex, Brian, and Brendan?).

Class I title will go to Conval with Coe Brown finishing second. 3 potential individual winners include Alex McGrath (who is the favorite in my opinion after seeing his track season!), Dylan Summers, and Ricky Hoyt. And the Class M championship will go to either Mascenic (lost 3 of top 7) or Hopkinton, who only lost 1 of their top 7. The individual winner will be either John Little or Job Christiansen.

[CVXCrunnerJR]

According to the newsletter, class L guys should be a sweep for Merrimack, with Nashua South the favorite for second place. Central looks good and Pinkerton has potential, despite losing 6 of their top 7. Londonderry has some younger runners who are expected to step up to the plate, securing about a 5th place finish at the class meet. 6 & 7 will be up for grabs by any of the following teams: nashua north, keene, winnacunnet, and memorial.

The favorite for the individual title is the one and only Matt Paulson. Second place will be a battle between Zach Campbell, Craig Brown, Corey Sinotte, Billy Godfrey, and Dominic Puleo. Other contenders for individual honors include Matt Travalini, Matt Stilling, Francis Hernandez, and Merrimack's second guy (Alex, Brian, and Brendan?).

Class I title will go to Conval with Kingswood finishing second. 3 potential individual winners include Alex McGrath (who is the favorite in my opinion after seeing his track season!), Dylan Summers, and Ricky Hoyt. And the Class M championship will go to either Mascenic (lost 3 of top 7) or Hopkinton, who only lost 1 of their top 7. The individual winner will be either John Little or Job Christiansen.


fixed

What Larry doesn't know is that Kingswood #2, Chris Apkarian, has left Kingswood for private school. At least that's what has been going around the rumor mill. They will be very hard pressed to replace him.

[CVXCrunnerJR]

Chance of Paulson, McGrath, Godfrey battle this Saturday

[ZackCampbell]

Chance of Paulson, McGrath, Godfrey battle this Saturday

Count me in.

[ahsxcrnner]

central is goin to the relays?

[MtownMiler]

central is goin to the relays?

Yup. Going to be a sick anchor race!

[ahsxcrnner]

any one gunna be stacking a team for the relay?

[CVXCrunnerJR]

The race is 4k and each school divides into three, 3 man team.

Three man teams
1. Conval (39:34)
Ethan McBrien 13:28
Dylan Fisher 13:25
Alex McGrath 12:41

2. Manchester Central (40:28)
Corey Sinnotte 13:10
Craig Brown 13:56
Matt Paulson 13:12

3. Nashua South
edit: Jordan Choate
Chris Mentas
Zack Campbell

Team Scores... the combined score of the last runner on the 3 man teams.

1. Merrimack (6,7,8) 18
2. Nashua South 29?
3. Conval 35?

[ZackCampbell]

Jordan Choate was the first leg for Nashua South.

[RUNNAKED]

hump

[MtownMiler]

Were there any other meets today?

[ETAM]

http://www.concordmonitor.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070913/LEDGERTRANSCRIPT/709130472/1007/SPORTS

[TF1121]

Anybody pick up the latest Varsity Magazine? It was their preview issue and they had some good stuff on Cross Country...

[DuchMan]

Tell us about it then plz:)

[at 133]

Anybody pick up the latest Varsity Magazine? It was their preview issue and they had some good stuff on Cross Country...

I used to work for the publishing company that prints it, and my daddy is one of the bosses there, so if I wanted to I could have more than 100 copies for myself (they also print sweet things like the patriot yearbook and the red sox magazine.) kinda irrelevent to anything written in it, but still cool, right?

[DPxc216]

http://www.concordmonitor.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070913/LEDGERTRANSCRIPT/709130472/1007/SPORTS

Why does this article say that McGrath has state records in the 3k, 3200 and 1600 when he only has the class I record in the 3k and no record in the 32 and 16? Where did they get that info...

[MtOwNxC]

Dustin, how long is the Londonderry home course??

[DPxc216]

i cant say for sure but i believe its around 2.95 miles...

[CVXCrunnerJR]

Why does this article say that McGrath has state records in the 3k, 3200 and 1600 when he only has the class I record in the 3k and no record in the 32 and 16? Where did they get that info...

Because he confused state titles with state records. I won the 3k class I indoor, 1600 class I outdoor, and 3200 MoC outdoor.

Local reporters... what are ya gonna do?

[CVXCrunnerJR]

Tell us about it then plz:)

To get the full effect, you really need the pictures ;)

[RUNNAKED]

To get the full effect, you really need the pictures ;)

I saw the win-e-bago at derryfield last saturday

Did you like the rain?

[CVXCrunnerJR]

I saw the win-e-bago at derryfield last saturday

Did you like the rain?

The rain was awful, but it had to be there. If there is anything important going on at Derryfield, it rains at Derryfield.

[RUNNAKED]

The rain was awful, but it had to be there. If there is anything important going on at Derryfield, it rains at Derryfield.

agreed (except this years manch invite)

[CVXCrunnerJR]

Top 25 New Hampshire runners at Manch Invite

1 #2600 McGrath, Alex 12 Con-Val 5:04 15:43 1
2 #3129 Sinotte, Cory 11 Manchester Central 5:09 16:00
3 #3220 Christiansen, Job 11 Mascenic Regional 5:11 16:06 2
4 #3223 Little, John 12 Mascenic Regional 5:13 16:10 3
5 #3113 Brown, Craig 12 Manchester Central 5:14 16:14
6 #3017 Summers, Dylan 12 Kingswood 5:14 16:14 4
7 #3417 Hoyt, Ricky 11 Oyster River 5:15 16:19
8 #2739 Malnati, Eric 11 Fall Mountain 5:18 16:26 3
9 #3544 Apkarian, Chris 12 Prospect Mountain 5:20 16:34 5
10 #2419 Hernandez, Francis 10 Bishop Guertin 5:22 16:39 5
11 #3473 Pietrocarlo, Chris 10 Pinkerton 5:22 16:40 6
10 #2599 McBrien, Ethan 11 Con-Val 5:23 16:41 7
12 #3256 Repack, Brendan 12 Merrimack 5:24 16:45 8
13 #3476 Stilling, Matt 12 Pinkerton 5:25 16:49 8
14 #2584 Roy, Branden 12 Coe-Brown 5:24 16:46 6
15 #2594 Fisher, Dylan 11 Con-Val 5:26 16:50 11
16 #3240 Bealieau, Alex 12 Merrimack 5:26 16:51 12
17 #3073 Travalini, Matt 12 Londonderry 5:26 16:52 13
18 #2421 Jourdain, Joey 10 Bishop Guertin 5:26 16:52 10
19 #3248 Haggerty, Ryan 11 Merrimack 5:27 16:54 14
20 #3320 Grant, Joshua 11 Nashua North 5:27 16:54 11
21 #3346 Mentas, Chris 11 Nashua South 5:28 16:59 13
22 #2875 Whittington, Marc 11 Hanover 5:29 17:02 8
23 #3246 Godfrey, William 12 Merrimack 5:29 17:02 16
24 #3772 Cullinane, Conor 11 Winnacunnet 5:31 17:07 14
25 #3483 Chalmers, Andrew 12 Plymouth Regional 5:31 17:08 16

[CVXCrunnerJR]

I combined all the results and removed all out of staters, then added it up. The results make sense to me but I would be fooling myself if I said they were perfectly accurate. I only combined runners with a time of 18:59 or faster, so several teams (Central, Mascenic) didn't score 5, and they may actually fit in here somewhere if times over 19:00 had been included, because of their top 2.

Conval(elite) 1,12,16,31,37,116 97
Merrimack(elite) 13,17,20,24,36,64 110
Pinkerton(large) 11,14,30,40,43,54,71 138
Kingswood(elite) 6,35,39,75,92 247
Hanover(small) 23,49,56,58,68,81,83 254
Coe-Brown(small) 15,27,33,76,109,143 260
Nashua South(large) 22,38,70,78,95,117 303
Nashua North(large) 21,47,48,87,124 327
Bishop Guertin(large) 10,18,79,123,137 367
Oyster River(small) 7,29,94,126,127,141 383
Londonderry(elite) 18,63,84,115,125, 405
Hopkinton(small) 67,74,93,112,128,154,160 474

Obviously results will be very different at the end of the year, when teams are peaking, and I feel this is especially true for teams like Hopkinton and Nashua South, who traditionally run much better at the end of they year. Also, some teams were missing valuable freshmen who ran in the freshman race, such as possibly Pinkerton, South, Londonderry and Central

[polyxc]

How good would Kingswood be if they hadn't lost Chris Apkarian?

[RUNNAKED]

How good would Kingswood be if they hadn't lost Chris Apkarian?

probably would have placed about the same

[CVXCrunnerJR]

2007 1. Josh Lewis Pinkerton 11:49
2. Kevin MacPherson Pinkerton 11:50
2006 1. Chris Pietrocarlo Pinkerton 11:20
2004 1. Matt Stilling Pinkerton 11:56

That's quite impressive

[CVXCrunnerJR]

6. 16:14 Dylan Summers
9. 16:34 Chris Apkarian
35. 17:21 Brendan Stackhouse
39. 17:23 Max Thomas
75. 1752 Terry Stackhouse

164

They would have been a much closer 4th

[CVXCrunnerJR]

1 McGrath, Alex 12 Con-Val 5:04 15:43 1
2 Summers, Dylan 12 Kingswood 5:14 16:14 4
3 Hoyt, Ricky 11 Oyster River 5:15 16:19
4 Malnati, Eric 11 Fall Mountain 5:18 16:26 3
5 McBrien, Ethan 11 Con-Val 5:23 16:41 7
6 Roy, Branden 12 Coe-Brown 5:24 16:46 6
7 Fisher, Dylan 11 Con-Val 5:26 16:50 11
8 Whittington, Marc 11 Hanover 5:29 17:02 8
9 Chalmers, Andrew 12 Plymouth Regional 5:31 17:08 16
10 Burns, Michael 10 Coe-Brown 5:31 17:08 10
11 Forrest, Kyle 12 Fall Mountain 5:32 17:10 11
12 Igoe, Paul 12 Oyster River 5:32 17:11 12
13 Butler, Justin 12 Con-Val 5:32 17:12 22
14 McCann, Eric 10 Coe-Brown 5:34 17:18 14
15 Stackhouse, Brenda 10 Kingswood 5:35 17:21 28
16 Butler, Devon 12 Con-Val 5:36 17:22 30
17 Thomas, Max 11 Kingswood 5:36 17:23
18 Colt, Jeff 11 Hanover 5:38 17:28 15
19 Jenkins, Eric 10 Portsmouth 5:39 17:32 42
20 Grald, Dylan 12 Lebanon 5:39 17:33 16
21 Watanabe, Aaron 10 Hanover 5:40 17:35 17
22 Quinn, Sean 10 Hollis/Brookline 5:40 17:35 45
23 Dodds, Cooper 12 Hanover 5:40 17:36 18
24 Short, Devin 12 Fall Mountain 5:42 17:41 21
25 DeFrancis, Paco 10 Hanover 5:43 17:44 25

Conval 1,5,7,13,16,39 42
Hanover 8,18,21,23,25 70
Coe-Brown 6,10,14,27,37,52 94
Kingswood 2,15,17,26,34 94
Oyster River 3,12,35,42,43 135

Conval has 5 in top 20
Hanover has 5 in top 25
Kingswood and Coe-Brown each have 3 in top 25

Interestingly, even though Kingswood beat both Hanover and Coe-Brown at Manchester Invite, they lose their advantage in a smaller race. If Kingswood had Chris Apkarian they would be a surefire 2nd.

[ILoveKarlene]

Has anyone put together a class L list for manchester invite?

[CVXCrunnerJR]

check out the up and coming Coe-Brown Sophs

Coe-Brown and Hanover are the future of class I

(Sophomores in the top 25 of "If manchester Invite was class I")

10 Burns, Michael 10 Coe-Brown 5:31 17:08 10
14 McCann, Eric 10 Coe-Brown 5:34 17:18 14
15 Stackhouse, Brenda 10 Kingswood 5:35 17:21 28
19 Jenkins, Eric 10 Portsmouth 5:39 17:32 42
21 Watanabe, Aaron 10 Hanover 5:40 17:35 17
22 Quinn, Sean 10 Hollis/Brookline 5:40 17:35 45
25 DeFrancis, Paco 10 Hanover 5:43 17:44 25

[ahsxcrnner]

some one has had alot of free time lately

[cvxcrunner]

some one has had alot of free time lately

qft haha

[RUNNAKED]

hey alex, are you okay?

You arent acting like yourself, almost as if polyxc haxzored your account.

Get some rest.

[ZackCampbell]

Meet of Champs tomorrow at Coe-Brown.

[ZackCampbell]

If the Mascenic coach is who I think he is, he is a very nice guy.

[CVXCrunnerJR]

Boys Top 10

Alex McGrath ConVal 15:28
Job Christiansen Mascenic 15:47
John Little Mascenic 15:50
Dylan Summers Kingswood 15:57*
Francis Hernandez BG 15:58*
Craig Brown Cental 16:02*
Ricky Hoyt 16:05
Ethan McBrien ConVal 16:05
Corey Sinnote Central 16:07
Dylan Fisher ConVal 16:12

*These times might be off by a second or two

Team Placing

1.ConVal
2.Nashua South
3.Kingswood
4.Hanover
5.Coe-Brown
6.Oyster River

[GBGRunner]

Boys Top 10

Alex McGrath ConVal 15:28
Job Christiansen Mascenic 15:47
John Little Mascenic 15:50
Dylan Summers Kingswood 15:57*
Francis Hernandez BG 15:58*
Craig Brown Cental 16:02*
Ricky Hoyt 16:05
Ethan McBrien ConVal 16:05
Corey Sinnote Central 16:07
Dylan Fisher ConVal 16:12

*These times might be off by a second or two

Team Placing

1.ConVal
2.Nashua South
3.Kingswood
4.Hanover
5.Coe-Brown
6.Oyster River


Speaking of the coe brown invite... Georgia Griffin in an incredible 17:45!! :eek:

[Slow Runner]

Boys Top 10

Alex McGrath ConVal 15:28
Job Christiansen Mascenic 15:47
John Little Mascenic 15:50
Dylan Summers Kingswood 15:57*
Francis Hernandez BG 15:58*
Craig Brown Cental 16:02*
Ricky Hoyt 16:05
Ethan McBrien ConVal 16:05
Corey Sinnote Central 16:07
Dylan Fisher ConVal 16:12

*These times might be off by a second or two

Team Placing

1.ConVal
2.Nashua South
3.Kingswood
4.Hanover
5.Coe-Brown
6.Oyster River

Why would those times be off by a second or two?

[polyxc]

Merrimack won big at the Ocean State Invitational.

William Godfrey was real fast, finishing 4th. What happened to him at Manchester?


1 #666 Alex Yersak Cherokee Hig 5:12 16:09 1
2 #570 Chris Brown Chelmsford 5:13 16:12 2
3 #900 Mark Feigen East Greenwich 5:13 16:12 3
4 #1630 William Godfrey Merrimack HS 5:15 16:18
5 #3150 Timothy O'Loughlin Westerly 5:16 16:20 5
6 #917 Nick Ross East Greenwich 5:16 16:21 6
7 #1492 Jacob Shoemaker Lincoln Sudbury 5:17 16:23 7
8 #1946 Andrew Wortham Newton South 5:17 16:23 8
9 #2746 Ben Perron St. John's H 5:17 16:24 9
10 #1343 Patrick Erban La SalleAcademy B 5:17 16:24 10

[CVXCrunnerJR]

Why would those times be off by a second or two?

I was posting them on memory. I'm sure the other ones are right but I wasn't quite sure about those 3

[CVXCrunnerJR]

Merrimack won big at the Ocean State Invitational.

William Godfrey was real fast, finishing 4th. What happened to him at Manchester?


1 #666 Alex Yersak Cherokee Hig 5:12 16:09 1
2 #570 Chris Brown Chelmsford 5:13 16:12 2
3 #900 Mark Feigen East Greenwich 5:13 16:12 3
4 #1630 William Godfrey Merrimack HS 5:15 16:18
5 #3150 Timothy O'Loughlin Westerly 5:16 16:20 5
6 #917 Nick Ross East Greenwich 5:16 16:21 6
7 #1492 Jacob Shoemaker Lincoln Sudbury 5:17 16:23 7
8 #1946 Andrew Wortham Newton South 5:17 16:23 8
9 #2746 Ben Perron St. John's H 5:17 16:24 9
10 #1343 Patrick Erban La SalleAcademy B 5:17 16:24 10

At Manchester Billy Godfrey had an asthma attack, he said he couldn't breath as soon as he hit the top of the first hill.

[ahsxcrnner]

was the coe brown race a full 5k? those times where pretty fast

[Slow Runner]

Yeah, Mcgrath's 15:40 at derryfield is pretty equal to a 15:28 on a fast course.

[gln11]

Boys Top 10

Alex McGrath ConVal 15:28
Job Christiansen Mascenic 15:47
John Little Mascenic 15:50
Dylan Summers Kingswood 15:57*
Francis Hernandez BG 15:58*
Craig Brown Cental 16:02*
Ricky Hoyt 16:05
Ethan McBrien ConVal 16:05
Corey Sinnote Central 16:07
Dylan Fisher ConVal 16:12

*These times might be off by a second or two

Team Placing

1.ConVal
2.Nashua South
3.Kingswood
4.Hanover
5.Coe-Brown
6.Oyster River

Oyster River beat coe-brown at that meet. There was some confusion with the results, but OR beat them by 5 points.

[TACUSA2000]

30 seconds faster than Derryfield......I've run both 3x /with 30 seconds faster @ Coe Brown...my guess is a short 5k...Alex /GG are the cream of the crop and will break many course records..I hope they both go to FL Nationals..

[JumpinSkiing]

GG is as her name implies.

[LongRedLine4H]

30 seconds faster than Derryfield......I've run both 3x /with 30 seconds faster @ Coe Brown...my guess is a short 5k...Alex /GG are the cream of the crop and will break many course records..I hope they both go to FL Nationals..

Unfortunately, Georgia and Alex just had their season's screwed up.

As we know from last spring, anything TACUSA says = lies.

Therefore, if he says truth, then those truths become lies. For example, if TACUSA says it is very warm out, and it is in fact warm, then shortly thereafter the temperature will drop precipitously.

Alex and Georgia were, in all probability, destined to have great seasons and perhaps even make FLN.

Now that TACUSA has said they will, however, both will run at least one minute slower at the Class meet than they did at Manch Invite. Sorry, guys! :(

[Pheidippides]

Yeah, Mcgrath's 15:40 at derryfield is pretty equal to a 15:28 on a fast course.

People under 17 at Black Bear ran an average 26 seconds faster than they did at Manchester. 22 seconds faster if you take Campbell out of the equation because he skews things. I don't think teams prepped for this meet like they did at Manch, and though it was a week later in the season, I'd still say the course is about 20 seconds faster than Derryfield.

[ZackCampbell]

People under 17 at Black Bear ran an average 26 seconds faster than they did at Manchester. 22 seconds faster if you take Campbell out of the equation because he skews things. I don't think teams prepped for this meet like they did at Manch, and though it was a week later in the season, I'd still say the course is about 20 seconds faster than Derryfield.

Of all the comments I've gotten on my derryfield race (favorite of them being 'I didn't even think he ran'), this is one of the best. I ran so bad I ****ed up your calculations.

[CVXCrunnerJR]

I'm just gonna say that after manch invite I could barely walk, but after Coe-Brown I felt pretty good (as far as post race goes). Derryfield just destroys you, Coe-Brown was much friendlier to the body.

[Jcolt45]

In reference to that... I've got this strange idea that Georgia might break 18 minutes and possibly the Manch. record of 1746..., she really hasn't had that much competition this year and when she gets pushed by others or sets a goal, she gets that goal. My guess is if she goes for the record at Manch, she breaks 18...

should be a good race at Manhatten , we'll see her true potential against those Fayettville girls



Alex and Georgia were, in all probability, destined to have great seasons and perhaps even make FLN.

Now that TACUSA has said they will, however, both will run at least one minute slower at the Class meet than they did at Manch Invite. Sorry, guys!

[Jcolt45]

btw, I don't know how this site works, I look at it in awe daily and my eyes becoming mesmerized in the endless numbers. What is the website for those speed ratings?

Oh and not to talk big, but Hanover boys, just wait for it:cool:

[Slow Runner]

ffeJ

[Pheidippides]

http://www.coolrunning.com/results/07/ma/Oct6_NewEng_set7.shtml

108 78 468 Kyle Audet Quinnipiac Fr 28:34 5:48
109 79 388 Nat Nelson Middlebury Fr 28:34 5:48

20 20 138 Steve Chaloner Brown jr 25:47 5:14 jr
70 69 297 Craig MacPherson Keene State Fr 26:31 5:23 Fr

24 24 471 John Greenlaw Quinnipiac Fr 26:54 5:28
28 28 345 Sean Gelinas Mass/Lowell So 26:58 5:29
38 213 John Schroeder Dartmouth So 27:12
61 53 305 Jeff Trethewey Keene State Fr 27:40 5:37
69 55 302 Tim Pipp Keene State Fr 27:45 5:38
70 56 447 Patrick Rush Newhampshire So 27:46 5:38

[Slow Runner]

aye there johhnyy boyy

[gln11]

These were the boys results from plymoth invite.
1 Kingswood 44 2 5 10 11 16 35 42
Total Time: 1:25:27.00
Average: 17:05.40
2 Londonderry 62 3 12 13 15 19 20 24
Total Time: 1:26:48.00
Average: 17:21.60
3 Oyster River 67 1 8 14 21 23 28 53
Total Time: 1:26:28.00
Average: 17:17.60
4 Coe-Brown 93 7 9 22 26 29 34 41
Total Time: 1:27:58.00
Average: 17:35.60

[polyxc]

Way to represent at Manhattan, Merrimack!

[Jcolt45]

Georgia Griffin was 2nd in the girls eastern race at Manhattan next to Carly Seymour (ranked 10th in the 2007 footlocker preview) and she beat Hannah Davidson (ranked 20th in the 2007 footlocker preview). If NTN doesn't interfere, she has a great chance to do well at footlockers

[run2thewall]

What were the new XC newsletter rankings ?

[Jcolt45]

here are the results from CVC's

Team Scores
Rank Team name Total Time Avg. Time Score 1 2 3 4 5 6 7
1 Con-Val 31 2 3 4 5 17 35
1:24:09 16:49
2 Hanover 53 5 9 10 13 16 22
1:26:32 17:18
3 Keene 75 8 11 12 21 23 27
1:27:29 17:29
4 Brattleboro 104 14 15 20 25 30 34
1:29:21 17:52
5 Fall Mountain 119 1 19 29 31 39 41
1:31:01 18:12
6 Lebanon 132 7 24 28 36 37 39
1:32:20 18:28

Results
Place Name Year Team Time

1 Malnati, Eric JR Fall Mt. 16:21
2 Fisher, Dylan JR Con-Val 16:25
3 McBrien, Ethan JR Con-Val 16:38
4 Butler, Justin SR Con-Val 16:40
5 Whittington, MarcJR Hanover 16:49
5 Butler, Devon SR Con-Val 16:49
7 Grald, Dylan SR Lebanon 16:52
8 Hill, Corey JR Keene 16:53
9 Colt, Jeff JR Hanover 17:20
10 Watanabe, Aaron SO Hanover 17:22
11 Koutras, Chris SR Keene 17:24
12 Ager, Chris SO Keene 17:25
13 Dodds, Cooper SR Hanover 17:26
14 Jahn, Kalle SO Brattleboro 17:30
15 Elliot, Landen JR Brattleboro 17:34
16 Strenta, Alex SO Hanover 17:35
17 Glidden, Edward SO Con-Val 17:37
18 DeFrancis, Paco SO Hanover 17:41
19 Forrest, Kyle SR Fall Mt. 17:43
20 Wheeler, Jacob JR Brattleboro 17:44
21 Stanclift, Adam JR Keene 17:48
22 Amdahl, Luc SO Hanover 17:49
23 Gowen, Brian JR Keene 17:59
24 Clark, Stephen JR Lebanon 18:00
25 Kramer, Josh SR Brattleboro 18:04
26 Farias, Simon SR Keene 18:06
27 Scott, Mike SR Keene 18:08
28 Singh, Kay JR Lebanon 18:10
29 Short, Devin SR Fall Mt. 18:25
30 Snell, Zack JR Brattleboro 18:29
31 Chamberlain, Jake SRFall Mt. 18:34
32 Pennoyer, Pier JR Con-Val 18:42
33 Knickerbocker, Spencer FR Brattleboro 18:52
34 Conforti, Chris SO Brattleboro 19:16
35 Ellingwood, Dan JR Con-Val 19:24
36 Cyphers, Josh SO Lebanon 19:34
37 Giveen, Luke JR Lebanon 19:44
38 Pyer, Clay FR Lebanon 19:58
39 Tuller, Bryan FR Fall Mt. 19:58
39 Haselton, David JR Lebanon 19:58
41 Street, Andrew SR Fall Mt. 20:38
41 St Pierre, Isaiah FR Fall Mt. 20:38
43 Perryman, Christian SO Lebanon 21:08

[polyxc]

I am surprised more aren't talking about the Merrimack boys race at Manhattan. Too much homework?

[LongRedLine4H]

too much anal

[MtownMiler]

I am surprised more aren't talking about the Merrimack boys race at Manhattan. Too much homework?

Pssh..who cares. :rolleyes:

[ShuttleCock]

too much anal

definatly the main staple of the training regime.

[gln11]

Hanover and Nashua south boys did really well.

[BABAR]

Hanover and Nashua south boys did really well.

Nashua South <3<3<3<3<3<3

[nien nunb]

Nashua South <3<3<3<3<3<3

QFE

[Jcolt45]

yeah, the races were exciting today...

Nashua South did exceptional... and not to be arrogant, but I think we (hanover boys) ran great today, especially since according to pre-season rankings, we were a possible 6th for class I

[polyxc]

What happened to Godfrey?
Is he still having asthma problems?

[gln11]

Kingswood had a bad day though, their normal #3 was 35th instead of around 18th where he should have been. Ricky Hoyt from Oyster River normally would have come in second in the race, and their the rest of their top 6 were slower than they usually were, with the exception of their #2 (paul Igoe)

[ZackCampbell]

Any chance that the class meets are going to get speed ratings?

[polyxc]

I'll ask Mr. Meylan.

[polyxc]

What happened to Godfrey at the Class meet?
Is he still having asthma problems?


Where are all the NH dyestatters? :confused:

[TACUSA2000]

No question GG has a shot at going under 17:00 on MOC course, 18:00 on a wet Derryfield says it all!

[MtOwNxC]

What happened to Godfrey at the Class meet?
Is he still having asthma problems?


Where are all the NH dyestatters? :confused:

Been fighting a bronchial virus.

[run2thewall]

Been fighting a vaginal virus.

fix'd

[CVXCrunnerJR]

Did Londonderry set the team time record for Derryfield at the class L meet in 2004? their average was 16:40, was that an all-time record?

[RUNNAKED]

Did Londonderry set the team time record for Derryfield at the class L meet in 2004? their average was 16:40, was that an all-time record?

nope

[lhsxc]

nope

yes

[DPxc216]

yes

mikes right...i was on it id remember

[RUNNAKED]

i should have tagged

[polyxc]

Thanks to Mr. Meylan!


1 #1160 Griffin, Georgia 12 Hanover 18:01 1081.0 147.7 148
2 #1156 Caldwell, Heidi 10 Hanover 19:06 1146.0 126.0 126
5 #1153 Black, Bridgette 12 Hanover 19:25 1165.0 119.7 120
6 #1162 Rodriguez, Grace 11 Hanover 19:43 1183.0 113.7 114
9 #1163 Taylor, Beth 12 Hanover 19:46 1186.0 112.7 113
12 #1155 Brown, Cate 12 Hanover 19:55 1195.0 109.7 110
20 #1158 Donohue, Meg 12 Hanover 20:41 1241.0 94.3

[polyxc]

Thanks to Mr. Meylan!

#400 McGrath, Alex 12 Con-Val 15:58 958.0 185.7 186
4 #399 McBrien, Ethan 11 Con-Val 16:21 981.0 178.0 178
5 #397 Fisher, Dylan 11 Con-Val 16:24 984.0 177.0 177
9 #394 Butler, Justin 12 Con-Val 16:36 996.0 173.0 173
10 #393 Butler, Devon 12 Con-Val 16:49 1009.0 168.7 169
31 #398 Glidden, Edward 10 Con-Val 17:39 1059.0 152.0 152
65 #401 Pennoyer, Pier 11 Con-Val 18:40 1120.0 131.7 132


3 #710 Campbell, Zack 11 Nashua South 16:18 978.0 179.0 179
9 #715 Fernacz, David 10 Nashua South 16:44 1004.0 170.3 170
14 #719 Pare, Tyler 12 Nashua South 16:51 1011.0 168.0 168
15 #712 Choate, Jordan 12 Nashua South 16:51 1011.0 168.0 168
18 #716 Mentas, Chris 11 Nashua South 16:58 1018.0 165.7 166
70 #714 Dupont, Paul 12 Nashua South 18:14 1094.0 140.3 140
77 #713 Dionne, Ethan 11 Nashua South 18:24 1104.0 137.0 137


7 #659 Bealieau, Alex 12 Merrimack 16:40 1000.0 171.7 172
11 #670 Repack, Brendan 12 Merrimack 16:45 1005.0 170.0 170
21 #661 Dancy, Jake 11 Merrimack 17:06 1026.0 163.0 163
24 #663 Hafferkamp, Seth 12 Merrimack 17:07 1027.0 162.7 163
26 #668 Mulrey, Jack 12 Merrimack 17:13 1033.0 160.7 161
36 #669 Paison, Brian 12 Merrimack 17:26 1046.0 156.3 156
57 #662 Godfrey, William 12 Merrimack 17:53 1073.0 147.3 147

[polyxc]

Merrimack at Manhattan

9 William Godfrey Merrimack NH 13:15.51 173.8 174
11 Alex Beaulieu Merrimack NH 13:19.59 172.5 172
14 Brenden Repack Merrimack 13:23.28 171.2 171
20 Seth Hafferkamp Merrimack 13:31.30 168.6 169
24 Brian Paison Merrimack NH 13:39.58 165.8 166

[TACUSA2000]

That's good news for those who like to run in less than perfect conditions.

[ahsxcrnner]

only the best

[APK100]

Just noticed this update on Lancer Timing and wanted to make sure everyone saw it.

NOTE: Due to expected bad weather Saturday, the Meet of Champions has been moved to Sunday - Nov 4th.

http://www.lancertiming.com/

[TACUSA2000]

I'd rather have rain and mud, oh well life goes on!

[DuchMan]

soooo gheyyyy

[MtownMiler]

Why can't we just run in the rain?...

[CVXCrunnerJR]

Personally, I would rather not run in 40 mile an hour winds, or stronger. Maybe that's just me though.

[gln11]

We are expecting around 6 inches of rain tomorrow also. Job and Jacy Christenson probally won't run in the meet, because they never run on Sundays, which will kill Mascenic if they dont run.

[CVXCrunnerJR]

Yeah that really stinks for the Christiansens. It's unfortunate this hurricane forced the race officials to move the race. I believe this is the 3rd time the Christiansens have been unable to race either Class meet or MoC due to the race being moved to Sunday. (Indoor's 2006, Outdoors 2006, XC 2007)

[Tiny_Dancer]

Little Feature

http://www.wmur.com/video/14489310/index.html

[polyxc]

count the headlights on the highway?

[LongRedLine4H]

Back in my day, they didn't care if there was a hurricane on race day. . . they didn't even care if you had pneumonia and the weather damn near killed you!

Kids these days have it so easy. . . *shakes cane furiously*

Hmph. . .*mutters to self, takes more medication*

[ahsxcrnner]

the weather isnt even that bad

[cvxcrunner]

NH has run in worse, but early reports were forecasting some nasty stuff for this afternoon. I think it was probably the best decision to be safe and keep everybody healthy by delaying the race until tomorrow, although it's definitely not fun to be from Mascenic right now.

[gln11]

Will the times for MOC include Daylight Savings? because that ends sunday morning.

[CVXCrunnerJR]

Little Feature

http://www.wmur.com/video/14489310/index.html

ha

[polyxc]

Little Feature

http://www.wmur.com/video/14489310/index.html
It is nice to see the greastest sport get some TV time!

[ZackCampbell]

Great races today and congrats to everyone.

Con-val, you guys are unbelievable. We figured we had a shot at you guys, and we had a great day and you still blew us away. Hats off and good luck in the next few weeks.

[msweenz]

Results?

[ZackCampbell]

Results?

Lancertiming.com

[poister1236]

--

[ZackCampbell]

Zack Campbell Rules!

Thanks Chris.

[Warrior]

Great race. I heard thay weren't going to compete at NYN regionals. That's too bad. I think they'd hgave a shot at Portland.

[Jcolt45]

Well done everyone. today was painful.

This is a question, at the race they announced that Kingswood qualified for New Englands, which is great, but the lancertiming.com results say that Bishop Guertin placed 6th and therefor, they qualified... Anybody know the situation at hand?

[ZackCampbell]

Well done everyone. today was painful.

This is a question, at the race they announced that Kingswood qualified for New Englands, which is great, but the lancertiming.com results say that Bishop Guertin placed 6th and therefor, they qualified... Anybody know the situation at hand?

The results had originally left out Jeff Warren from BG. A parent noticed this and they went back to the cameras to check it out. It sucks that there was an error, though.

[ETAM]

Jeff Warren BG's #4 guy today was missed in the results. Lancertiming reviewed their cameras and found the error and the results were corrected.


66 Warren, Jeffrey 11 Bishop Guertin 5:32.4 17:12.5 48

[CVXCrunnerJR]

Great race. I heard thay weren't going to compete at NYN regionals. That's too bad. I think they'd hgave a shot at Portland.

We're beginning to rethink that. We're going to see how we match up with Danbury this Saturday and then decide.

And in all seriousness, my team mates ran phenomenally, I couldn't be happier for them.

PS. Do the dyestat people even know that MoC exists? they seem to not include it in their list of state meets.

[CVXCrunnerJR]

Jeff Warren BG's #4 guy today was missed in the results. Lancertiming reviewed their cameras and found the error and the results were corrected.


66 Warren, Jeffrey 11 Bishop Guertin 5:32.4 17:12.5 48

damn, poor Kingswood. They were so excited when their name was called.

[gln11]

Kingswood's coach told our coach after the meet that their team had already left and didn't know that they had lost. The coach said he would have to tell them all tomorrow. Sucks for them.

[Jcolt45]

That sucks so much, Bishop Guertin really stepped up then, I though Kingswood was gonna make it.

Oh, and ALex/Con- Val, lets bring the New England title to NH this year, the Butlers have improved a ton over the year, I wouldn't be surprised if you...surprised some people... yeah I said that

[Jcolt45]

Oh, and I noticed that too, I checked state meets and there was nothing on MOC, i was like wtf?

I also figured they might Georgia up on the photo reel this time since she kinda destroyed and she has been getting more national attention (ranked 9th for FL individuals).

[ahsxcrnner]

I didnt run that well but some of those times yesterday were flying. Hows the new englands course lookin?

[Warrior]

We're beginning to rethink that. We're going to see how we match up with Danbury this Saturday and then decide.

And in all seriousness, my team mates ran phenomenally, I couldn't be happier for them.

PS. Do the dyestat people even know that MoC exists? they seem to not include it in their list of state meets.

Not sure I'm glad to hear that you're rethinking it. You definitely are worthy of challenging for a Portland spot. Your team raced great on Saturday. Good luck next week at NEs.

[Jcolt45]

here is a course map- http://www.sub5.com/pvcxc/revised%20Twin_Brook%20xc%20trail%20copy.jpg

there is some other information on New Englands at these sites-

http://cnesspa.ezstream.com/index.cfm?ChnID=34&SubID=6&chncd=34,6&itemid=387&parid=-1&Org=cnesspa&CFID=358467&CFTOKEN=8201938

http://www.sub5.com/pvcxc/home.htm

[CVXCrunnerJR]

here is a course map- http://www.sub5.com/pvcxc/revised%20Twin_Brook%20xc%20trail%20copy.jpg

there is some other information on New Englands at these sites-

http://cnesspa.ezstream.com/index.cfm?ChnID=34&SubID=6&chncd=34,6&itemid=387&parid=-1&Org=cnesspa&CFID=358467&CFTOKEN=8201938

http://www.sub5.com/pvcxc/home.htm

haha good god what is this place?

[polyxc]

Not sure I'm glad to hear that you're rethinking it. You definitely are worthy of challenging for a Portland spot. Your team raced great on Saturday. Good luck next week at NEs.
QFT

[amlambert329]

Are the Hanover girls running at New Englands? Sorry if it's been answered/asked already, I'm usually just on the Maine XC thread.

[Jcolt45]

YESSS they are, 11:30 cumberland maine, be there

[Tiny_Dancer]

Jeff Warren BG's #4 guy today was missed in the results. Lancertiming reviewed their cameras and found the error and the results were corrected.


66 Warren, Jeffrey 11 Bishop Guertin 5:32.4 17:12.5 48

This is coincidental because on the results posted at the meet, Bill Godfrey was posted at 17:12.5 after not running.

[CVXCrunnerJR]

so my team (conval) and I went up to see the course today. The thing starts in a big field with rolling hills. It rained all day so the course was soggy as hell - the field was practically a giant puddle. You run for a good 600-800 on field before you enter the woods, including a really sketchy turn reminiscent of last years New Englands but not as close to the start. It was muddy and we all slipped on our warm up, so i can see it being a hazard in the race. This turn is probably 400-500 in. Then it goes up a soggy hill then enters the woods. The trails in the woods are awesome, seriously bad ass. It reminded me a little of Thetford but not as hilly. It was muddy on the first hill in the woods, which includes some sharp turns and a lot of rolling action. Not sure where the mile is, probably in this wooded loop, which is a little less than 1000 meters. You come out of the woods right next to where you went in, turn left, and go back into the woods. This next woods section is much shorter and flatter. It ducks out and then back into the woods again one last time- this section was drier than the first. Just before leaving the woods for the third time you hit what seems the be the 2 mile mark. You run in the field next to the woods for a short time then do the first woods loop backwards. Kind of a big hill here, then down the side with sharp turns and mud. Just before leaving the woods you take a sharp right and it horseshoes around to a VERY STEEP, very short hill. After you emerge from this hill, you must have less than 800 meters, all on field. You finish back by where you started, in a giant, open, grassy field. Should be fun.

[ZackCampbell]

so my team (conval) and I went up to see the course today. The thing starts in a big field with rolling hills. It rained all day so the course was soggy as hell - the field was practically a giant puddle. You run for a good 600-800 on field before you enter the woods, including a really sketchy turn reminiscent of last years New Englands but not as close to the start. It was muddy and we all slipped on our warm up, so i can see it being a hazard in the race. This turn is probably 400-500 in. Then it goes up a soggy hill then enters the woods. The trails in the woods are awesome, seriously bad ass. It reminded me a little of Thetford but not as hilly. It was muddy on the first hill in the woods, which includes some sharp turns and a lot of rolling action. Not sure where the mile is, probably in this wooded loop, which is a little less than 1000 meters. You come out of the woods right next to where you went in, turn left, and go back into the woods. This next woods section is much shorter and flatter. It ducks out and then back into the woods again one last time- this section was drier than the first. Just before leaving the woods for the third time you hit what seems the be the 2 mile mark. You run in the field next to the woods for a short time then do the first woods loop backwards. Kind of a big hill here, then down the side with sharp turns and mud. Just before leaving the woods you take a sharp right and it horseshoes around to a VERY STEEP, very short hill. After you emerge from this hill, you must have less than 800 meters, all on field. You finish back by where you started, in a giant, open, grassy field. Should be fun.

Does the start look suitable for 275 runners?

[CoachDW]

Does the start look suitable for 275 runners?

The start is much more suitable then any of the New England courses run over the last 4 years. To clarify, its just over 800 meters from the start to the first time you enter the woods. You have ample time and room to move in to a decent position before entering the trail. My guess is the sketchy right hand turn at approx 500 meters willl be worked on in the next couple of days before the race to dry that area out. If we get decent weather between now and Saturday the course should be in good shape.

[ZackCampbell]

The start is much more suitable then any of the New England courses run over the last 4 years. To clarify, its just over 800 meters from the start to the first time you enter the woods. You have ample time and room to move in to a decent position before entering the trail. My guess is the sketchy right hand turn at approx 500 meters willl be worked on in the next couple of days before the race to dry that area out. If we get decent weather between now and Saturday the course should be in good shape.

Thanks, and I hope you're right.

[Jcolt45]

Sounds like fun, see you guys tomorrow

[windsor-area-observer]

Hello everyone. Finally got the photographs from this year's New England XC Championship uploaded.

Here's the link ... http://www.flickr.com/photos/16965932@N08/

Enjoy,

Matt Jarvis
Windsor Area Observer

[Tiny_Dancer]

Joey Jordain owns the 5th returning time from Footlocker Northeast.

[CVXCrunnerJR]

I didn't watch the sophomore race... but how the hell did Jourdain run that fast?

[ZackCampbell]

I didn't watch the sophomore race... but how the hell did Jourdain run that fast?

Well, he started the race, ran for a while, then crossed the finish line 16 minutes and 16 seconds later.

[BABAR]

I didn't watch the sophomore race... but how the hell did Jourdain run that fast?

What kind of a question is that?

[RUNNAKED]

I didn't watch the sophomore race... but how the hell did Jourdain run that fast?

obviously he used steroids and cheated by running a shorter course only after having his father drive him to the first mile mark on the four wheel drive vehicle that leads the race.


...?

[Slow Runner]

I didn't watch the sophomore race... but how the hell did Jourdain run that fast?


15:54 at Meet of Champions. Joey is an incredible runner and has been overlooked for far too long. Kid's gonna tear it up.

[CVXCrunnerJR]

I'm not saying he cheated, I'm saying he ran out of his mind - I doubt anyone, even him, thought he would run that fast, beat Francis, and win the race. Good job by him.

[ZackCampbell]

obviously he used steroids and cheated by running a shorter course only after having his father drive him to the first mile mark on the four wheel drive vehicle that leads the race.


...?

His father would never drive anything but a Cadillac DeVille.

[Slow Runner]

I will say Footlockers was a ****ing wierd day, I did not run as well as I would of liked to. Joey repped NH well that day.

[ZackCampbell]

I will say Footlockers was a ****ing wierd day, I did not run as well as I would of liked to. Joey repped NH well that day.

I ran 17:08 at NTNNE.

[RUNNAKED]

I ran 17:08 at NTNNE.

I ran 19:20 at class L's

[Tiny_Dancer]

Surprised it wasn't forementioned but Hanover got an at-large bid to NTN. Hope they perform well

[Tiny_Dancer]

seschually.