NHC Championships

[Rob A]

Northern Hills Conference Championships are this Friday, the Invitational season is coming to a close and the Championship season is beginning. Should be a great race this friday at Lewis Morris. Weather forecast right now for friday is a high of 64 degrees and cloudy, perfect XC weather!

[tmfcmike]

Northern Hills Conference Championships are this Friday, the Invitational season is coming to a close and the Championship season is beginning. Should be a great race this friday at Lewis Morris. Weather forecast right now for friday is a high of 64 degrees and cloudy, perfect XC weather! So who's going?

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[Rob A]

Well good luck to everyone tomorrow. It's gonna be a muddy course, should be fun.

[SeaBlack]

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gotta spread but you should have worked in "on the clock" and some reference to his team website

[hilltopper15]

gotta spread but you should have worked in "on the clock" and some reference to his team website

lol...why do you have frosh prs in the 100 and 200 in the sig?

[SeaBlack]

if you had prs like that frosh year wouldnt you?
but seriously those were my frosh prs so i just use it as a reminder to keep working hard

[Rob A]

Just got back, raced my ass of today to get 2nd in suburban. I wanted so bad to finally get an individual XC medal that isn't bronze. I finished in 17:19, 17 sec pr for the course. And my teammate James VanderWiele won it in 17:05. We were all pretty psyched.

Edit - Results up http://mctrack.org/NorthernHills/PNorthern.html

[Grote]

Good work RobA. Tough course...I know the area well. A fine showing from Millburn again, Murphy 16:26 (close to Poland CR?) and team average 17:16. Most seem to call this course a bit harder/slower than Holmdel. Millburn is definitely an MoC contender. 5th man just over 18:00 today, if they can get that down to 17:20-30 at Holmdel, they are real close.

Grote

[njrunz]

Just got back, raced my ass of today to get 2nd in suburban. I wanted so bad to finally get an individual XC medal that isn't bronze. I finished in 17:19, 17 sec pr for the course. And my teammate James VanderWiele won it in 17:05. We were all pretty psyched.

Edit - Results up http://mctrack.org/NorthernHills/PNorthern.html
I was at the meet today, but missed your race. I wanted to see the legendary Rob A run. Good job, though. It was the first time I've been to Lewis Morris, and the course is definitely as tough as everyone says. Those hills are crazy.


However, I hear that a couple of the teams may have run a slightly shorter, yet legal version of the course. One of the coaches asked an official why only those teams knew of the alternate route, and he said it wasn't his problem and he doesn't get paid enough to deal with angry coaches. :rolleyes: Yet another example of top notch officials.

[Rob A]

I was at the meet today, but missed your race. I wanted to see the legendary Rob A run. Good job, though. It was the first time I've been to Lewis Morris, and the course is definitely as tough as everyone says. Those hills are crazy.


However, I hear that a couple of the teams may have run a slightly shorter, yet legal version of the course. One of the coaches asked an official why only those teams knew of the alternate route, and he said it wasn't his problem and he doesn't get paid enough to deal with angry coaches. :rolleyes: Yet another example of top notch officials.

Thanks and I believe I heard about that. I was watching the girls suburban race, with James and my coach, and the coach from Montville? (I think?) came up to us and told us how the girl that finished 3rd cut the course. Right after the 2 mi mark after re-entering the the area around the starting line, you go on a downhill before re-entering the woods. And there is a trail before the entrance of the woods that she said people cut down. I examined in after the race, and there is indeed a path there. And I can say that it cuts out a good amount of the course based on looking at it, 5-10 sec probably. It's a shame that officials weren't out there watching.

[JustRun07]

Thanks and I believe I heard about that. I was watching the girls suburban race, with James and my coach, and the coach from Montville? (I think?) came up to us and told us how the girl that finished 3rd cut the course. Right after the 2 mi mark after re-entering the the area around the starting line, you go on a downhill before re-entering the woods. And there is a trail before the entrance of the woods that she said people cut down. I examined in after the race, and there is indeed a path there. And I can say that it cuts out a good amount of the course based on looking at it, 5-10 sec probably. It's a shame that officials weren't out there watching.

I can't see girls doing that purposely. Guys? yes. but not girls. Was it clearly marked?

[Rob A]

I can't see girls doing that purposely. Guys? yes. but not girls. Was it clearly marked?

Yes it was clearly marked, there were gates that you have to run through and you can't miss the last one at the final turn back into the words. I'm sure some of the guys do it too.

[njrunz]

Thanks and I believe I heard about that. I was watching the girls suburban race, with James and my coach, and the coach from Montville? (I think?) came up to us and told us how the girl that finished 3rd cut the course. Right after the 2 mi mark after re-entering the the area around the starting line, you go on a downhill before re-entering the woods. And there is a trail before the entrance of the woods that she said people cut down. I examined in after the race, and there is indeed a path there. And I can say that it cuts out a good amount of the course based on looking at it, 5-10 sec probably. It's a shame that officials weren't out there watching.
Yea, it was the Montville coach.
I can't see girls doing that purposely. Guys? yes. but not girls. Was it clearly marked?
From what I heard, one team did it in a dual meet last week. Another team's coach saw this, and reported it to the officials. The officials said it was legal. So today, both the team that did it last week, and the team that saw it, ran the shortened course. And I'm not even sure if the guys did it, but I know the girls did.. I don't see why guys would be more likely to anyway :confused:

[Rob A]

How the hell is this move legal? It's cutting the course, something is wrong in the official's heads.

[tmfcmike]

Dear Njrunz,


Lol............................................... ............. No Comment. WHY WERE YOU THERE OUT OF CURIOSITY?

[JustRun07]

Dear Njrunz,


Lol............................................... ............. No Comment. WHY WERE YOU THERE OUT OF CURIOSITY?

she was trying to pick up rob a

[tmfcmike]

she was trying to pick up rob a

I TRIED PICKING YOU UP BUT THAT FAILED HORRIBLY.

[Joe Lanzalotto]

I TRIED PICKING YOU UP BUT THAT FAILED HORRIBLY.

Ooooph! I think you ahve JustRun speechless with that statement.

[njrunz]

Dear Njrunz,


Lol............................................... ............. No Comment. WHY WERE YOU THERE OUT OF CURIOSITY?
To cheer for your team. 1/2 my team went b/c they all had siblings racing, so I went along. They said it helped to have a cheering section, and little Wolfie pr'ed by about a minute to get 3rd in her race. :D

Edit: she was trying to pick up rob a
I actually contemplated yelling his name out when I saw him, but decided against it. Also, his coach said something to us b/c we were going crazy running around around the course (bad idea for me.. especially b/c I had just gotten out of a dr's appointment where I was told not to run for at least 2 more weeks) and I almost asked him what it was like to coach a legend.

[Rob A]

I actually contemplated yelling his name out when I saw him, but decided against it. Also, his coach said something to us b/c we were going crazy running around around the course (bad idea for me.. especially b/c I had just gotten out of a dr's appointment where I was told not to run for at least 2 more weeks) and I almost asked him what it was like to coach a legend.
Lol when did you see me? And what did my coach say to you?

[njrunz]

Lol when did you see me? And what did my coach say to you?
I saw your whole team walking somewhere (I think back to the bus) toward the end of the meet. He just commented about us being everywhere or something like that.

[catk123]

good job on your race, rob a.
i ran the skyline girls race with a sprained ankle...didn't do too well. =/
but i heard one of the west milford girls saying the top two girls from millburn cut the course. apparently their coach complained but the officials didn't do anything about it.
and there's also this part in the woods, where you can run either through a giant puddle, which is a couple seonds faster or go over a little bridge/board thingy. usually they rope it off but idk why they didn't yesterday.
btw, does anyone know the course record for girls?

[D_Gordon]

good job on your race, rob a.
i ran the skyline girls race with a sprained ankle...didn't do too well. =/
but i heard one of the west milford girls saying the top two girls from millburn cut the course. apparently their coach complained but the officials didn't do anything about it.
and there's also this part in the woods, where you can run either through a giant puddle, which is a couple seonds faster or go over a little bridge/board thingy. usually they rope it off but idk why they didn't yesterday.
btw, does anyone know the course record for girls?

I don't know what they do now, but they never roped that off when I used to run at Lewis Morris. One time my teammate lost a shoe in that mud puddle and ran the rest of the race with one shoe.

As a Millburn alumnus, I was really excited to see that the girls had won (along with another outstanding performance by the boys) -- it would be a real shame if they won by cheating. I hope there's no truth to that.

[Rob A]

I don't know what they do now, but they never roped that off when I used to run at Lewis Morris. One time my teammate lost a shoe in that mud puddle and ran the rest of the race with one shoe.

As a Millburn alumnus, I was really excited to see that the girls had won (along with another outstanding performance by the boys) -- it would be a real shame if they won by cheating. I hope there's no truth to that.

This is the first yr that they roped off that section of the course. Now they want you to make a right and go over a bridge instead, it adds like 3 sec probably. I actually didn't bother with it in a few of the dual meets and ran the usual course (you can easily go around the rope), but yesterday I wasn't risking getting disqualified as I wasn't sure if making the left and running the usual course was legal or not.