Crazy rule

[NWBurb]

I know that everyone is busy/excited with Footlocker and the holidays around that corner but I got this off Illinoispreptoptimes.........anyone see this new rule that the great and powerful IHSA has put into effect?


3. Item VIII-D-4: Timing Devices
Add this section under the uniform section. Watches will not be allowed to be worn during competition in track & field and cross country.

Rationale:
There used to be a 10-minute limit to get from one event to the next event in Track & Field. They allowed watches so competitors could get to their event on time. This is no longer necessary. Equally important is the technology currently available in a watch. Today’s sports watches can be used for many things including use as a pacing device. When used in this manner it is an unfair advantage that competitor would have over others in that competition.


i just don't understand their logic.....

[XC2010]

I know that everyone is busy/excited with Footlocker and the holidays around that corner but I got this off Illinoispreptoptimes.........anyone see this new rule that the great and powerful IHSA has put into effect?


3. Item VIII-D-4: Timing Devices
Add this section under the uniform section. Watches will not be allowed to be worn during competition in track & field and cross country.

Rationale:
There used to be a 10-minute limit to get from one event to the next event in Track & Field. They allowed watches so competitors could get to their event on time. This is no longer necessary. Equally important is the technology currently available in a watch. Today’s sports watches can be used for many things including use as a pacing device. When used in this manner it is an unfair advantage that competitor would have over others in that competition.


i just don't understand their logic.....

pretty sure they told us this before regionals for xc

EDIT:http://talk.dyestat.com/showthread.php?t=72443&highlight=watches

[maddash1]

That is an odd rule. In my experience the timers always shouted out 400m splits on the track. In an 800 we got 200 and 600 splits too. And in cross someone usually yelled out the slits at each mile. Are people allowed to tell the runners what their splits are now? Beacuse that information can be used as a pacing tool as well. I never raced with a watch and I knew all my splits.

[ehof]

No! The IHSA bans all pacing devices and pacing itself. They have now decreed that every competitor must sprint all out for as long as possible and then try to make it to the finish without collapsing. As many do this already, they expect the transition to go smoothly.

[XC2010]

That is an odd rule. In my experience the timers always shouted out 400m splits on the track. In an 800 we got 200 and 600 splits too. And in cross someone usually yelled out the slits at each mile. Are people allowed to tell the runners what their splits are now? Beacuse that information can be used as a pacing tool as well. I never raced with a watch and I knew all my splits.

only can you get splits at a mile mark any other place you given splits you could be DQed possibly

[ehof]

only can you get splits at a mile mark any other place you given splits you could be DQed possibly

Are you serious? Or is this a satirical joke about the IHSA?

[XC2010]

Are you serious? Or is this a satirical joke about the IHSA?

my bad forgot teh tag

[ehof]

my bad forgot teh tag
Not your fault. It's just I could believe them actually implementing that rule so no one could gain an "unfair advantage."

[XC2010]

Not your fault. It's just I could believe them actually implementing that rule so no one could gain an "unfair advantage."

what will they do next?...................try and keep the states best out of the state meet?hahahaa

[PrimalXC]

only can you get splits at a mile mark any other place you given splits you could be DQed possibly

not funny, you gotta tag this kind of stuff

someone could take this serious and pass out, hit their head, and have a concussion.

[XC2010]

not funny, you gotta tag this kind of stuff

someone could take this serious and pass out, hit their head, and have a concussion.

im srry srsly it was totally a mistake and will NEVER be repeated EVER i can afford a lawsuite. EXTRA precaution will be taken in the future

[IRunSometimes.]

what will they do next?...................try and keep the states best out of the state meet?hahahaa

Next logical step is to go by alphabetical order. The first year, the first 25 alphabetical teams go. The next year the next 25 go, etcetera. This will save teams who are not sheduled to go to state the trouble of training.
It will be glorious!

[XC2010]

Next logical step is to go by alphabetical order. The first year, the first 25 alphabetical teams go. The next year the next 25 go, etcetera. This will save teams who are not sheduled to go to state the trouble of training.
It will be glorious!


be careful Mcgraw might see that and higher you

[maddash1]

only can you get splits at a mile mark any other place you given splits you could be DQed possibly

In all seriousness isnt there a rule at track state that coaches are not allowed to be on the track or infield and also not allowed any contact with the athletes (ie no walkie takies or cellphone contact)?

My coach explained this one to me at a quad when my team mates and I were joking around with walkie talkies.

If one coach is giving 1.5mile splits to his guys (not calling out for all athletes), I could see the IHSA considering it a violation claiming an unfair advantage to that team because perhaps another team has a disabled coach who can't make it out to that part of the course to give them splits and advice.

[PrimalXC]

In all seriousness isnt there a rule at track state that coaches are not allowed to be on the track or infield and also not allowed any contact with the athletes (ie no walkie takies or cellphone contact)?

My coach explained this one to me at a quad when my team mates and I were joking around with walkie talkies.

If one coach is giving 1.5mile splits to his guys (not calling out for all athletes), I could see the IHSA considering it a violation claiming an unfair advantage to that team because perhaps another team has a disabled coach who can't make it out to that part of the course to give them splits and advice.

How bout yelling it from the stands? DQ the whole field for hearing it?

The IHSA should just hand out ear plugs and blindfolds to all runners for gods sake if they don't want any them to be aided in any way.

[Swoosh13]

be careful Mcgraw might see that and higher you

be careful McGraw might see that and declare you academically ineligible

[Swoosh13]

In all seriousness isnt there a rule at track state that coaches are not allowed to be on the track or infield and also not allowed any contact with the athletes (ie no walkie takies or cellphone contact)?

My coach explained this one to me at a quad when my team mates and I were joking around with walkie talkies.

If one coach is giving 1.5mile splits to his guys (not calling out for all athletes), I could see the IHSA considering it a violation claiming an unfair advantage to that team because perhaps another team has a disabled coach who can't make it out to that part of the course to give them splits and advice.

that is a rule for all meets that you are not allowed to have any electronic device in competition areas. And yes coaches are not allowed to give splits at state

[IllinoisPhotographer]

that is a rule for all meets that you are not allowed to have any electronic device in competition areas. And yes coaches are not allowed to give splits at state

But... you do have a giant scoreboard you can see with the time on it. Maybe the IHSA should ban that too!

[Swoosh13]

But... you do have a giant scoreboard you can see with the time on it. Maybe the IHSA should ban that too!

true, we need to take into account the stupid people who can't read the time right (lol to those who know), that is a competitive advantage.

[idontgetit14]

But... you do have a giant scoreboard you can see with the time on it. Maybe the IHSA should ban that too!


One thing with the scoreboard time though is that in quite a few meets, the time is off.

[LiL BAnderson]

finally the IHSA did something I like. Come on who needs watches for a race? Go all out and run your best you don't need a watch to tell you how you should run. Stop looking at you stupid little watch and race the competitors in the race!

[Swoosh13]

Stop looking at you stupid little watch and race the competitors in the race!

Ok Luke :rolleyes:

[ehof]

finally the IHSA did something I like. Come on who needs watches for a race? Go all out and run your best you don't need a watch to tell you how you should run. Stop looking at you stupid little watch and race the competitors in the race!
You may not think it matters to have a watch in a race, but why is a rule against it necessary? If watches are allowed you don't have to use one if you don't want to.

[XC2010]

You may not think it matters to have a watch in a race, but why is a rule against it necessary? If watches are allowed you don't have to use one if you don't want to.

really i mean if everyone is allowed to use one then it would be the same as everyone not using one. and if some people chose not to then thats thier choice

[Chikago12]

I personally can't stand wearing a watch in any facet of training, and in racing its kind of irrellevant cause don't you have the huge timer, or at least people yelling stuff out? I really don't think this'll make anyone win or lose a meet. The only way I could see this sucking would be at a dual meet when the other team sucks (NSC ftw) and you just want to do a workout or something, in that case it might be useful. But I don't think the IHSA goes around patrolling dual meets.

[ehof]

its kind of irrellevant cause don't you have the huge timer, or at least people yelling stuff out? Not everyone has that.
I don't think the IHSA goes around patrolling dual meets.They have officials.

[phrisbee]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v396/ZmRival/LukeShutUp.jpg
I bet Luke's happy.

[Brumund-Smith]

I think that is an idiotic rule, with absolutely no basis. Maybe make a rule that you can't program the watch to beep on a certain pace, etc. But to ban watches entirely? That's just idiotic. Most of the uniform rules are ridiculous though. There's no reason a kid shouldn't be able to wear a wristband in a race.

[Tri-Umph]

But... you do have a giant scoreboard you can see with the time on it. Maybe the IHSA should ban that too!

Thanks for the suggestion....they've now taken care of that.

http://www.cmsu.edu/Images/NewsAndEvents/storm_scoreboard_web.jpg

[phrisbee]

I think that is an idiotic rule, with absolutely no basis. Maybe make a rule that you can't program the watch to beep on a certain pace, etc. But to ban watches entirely? That's just idiotic. Most of the uniform rules are ridiculous though. There's no reason a kid shouldn't be able to wear a wristband in a race.
The beep rule is already in place.

Pretty bull**** rule, especially if they're going to enforce it in regular season meets where kids might want to know their splits at shorter intervals than their coach can get.

[Swoosh13]

There already was a ban on any beeping and any pacing function other than stopwatch and time

[Brumund-Smith]

There already was a ban on any beeping and any pacing function other than stopwatch and time

Alright, I didn't really know that, but I think it's a good rule. Banning watches entirely is just plain stupid.

[Alowe007]

kids might want to know their splits at shorter intervals than their coach can get.

well thats why they made the rule. So kids can't

but yes i agree its a bullsh*t rule