The Blacklist

[Swoosh13]

I hate private schools, I think I made that very clear on the other thread. I hate them for various reasons, but most of all for the fact that they are allowed to recruit. Now not all private schools do this, and I applaud those who deny that power that they have. However, there are many that do, this list is for those. Since not all of the private schools that recruit do so for cross country and track, make sure to specify before we demerit them. Provide rational for those schools that you put on this list. Also Trickster and you other private school guys are welcome to state your case.

1. Marion Catholic- (not to be confused with Marian Central who doesn't recruit to my knowledge) When I was driving back from school the other day I saw billboard on the side of the road with a bunch of high school football players on it and with the text "Marion Catholic Join Our Team!"

2. Loyola Academy- A state champion JH runner was supposed to come to our school, Loyola offered him a full "scholarship" to play soccer and run track there . . . hes at Loyola.

ibyork

[eber1]

[Loyola offered him a full "scholarship"

It is illegal to offer scholarship money for athletics, you can turn them in and the coach would get suspended or something. Its not like an athletic scholarship its more of financial aid thing

[Trickster0831]

[Loyola offered him a full "scholarship"

It is illegal to offer scholarship money for athletics, you can turn them in and the coach would get suspended or something. Its not like an athletic scholarship its more of financial aid thing

I've heard of some schools turning them into Academic Scholarships and stuff. Some private schools don't need to recruit though. They get good at a sport, and then kids want to go there to play. That's what happens for us and water polo.

[KCSPEED]

I hate private schools, I think I made that very clear on the other thread. I hate them for various reasons, but most of all for the fact that they are allowed to recruit. Now not all private schools do this, and I applaud those who deny that power that they have. However, there are many that do, this list is for those. Since not all of the private schools that recruit do so for cross country and track, make sure to specify before we demerit them. Provide rational for those schools that you put on this list. Also Trickster and you other private school guys are welcome to state your case.

1. Marion Catholic- (not to be confused with Marian Central who doesn't recruit to my knowledge) When I was driving back from school the other day I saw billboard on the side of the road with a bunch of high school football players on it and with the text "Marion Catholic Join Our Team!"

2. Loyola Academy- A state champion JH runner was supposed to come to our school, Loyola offered him a full "scholarship" to play soccer and run track there . . . hes at Loyola.

ibyork

Sounds like some petty whining.

Marian Catholic has 1575 students and with its penalty 1.65 multiplier for being able to recruit they move up to 2595 students which is still lower then it closest public school Bloom at 3280 students

Loyal Academy has 2091 students and with the multiplier 3450. New Trier the closest public high school to them has a 4201 enrollment.

As a public school if you can't compete with 3200 and 4200 students I can see why people would go to a private school.

[neverstoprunning]

The only private school I hate is boylan. They steal all our athletes and never let up on anyone they just want to pound everyone in to the ground. Friday night they beat our basketball 103-47. Could they have let up just a little bit maybe?.. No because they are a bunch of @$$holes!

[Alowe007]

The only private school I hate is boylan. They steal all our athletes and never let up on anyone they just want to pound everyone in to the ground. Friday night they beat our basketball 103-47. Could they have let up just a little bit maybe?.. No because they are a bunch of @$$holes!

there aren't really any private school around me that recruit but 1 guy that ran sub 15 went to marmion from my town and another guy that was sub 16:20 went to st. francis

[neverstoprunning]

there aren't really any private school around me that recruit but 1 guy that ran sub 15 went to marmion from my town and another guy that was sub 16:20 went to st. francis

Boylan isn't very good at xc though but they are good at just about every other sport. They really only have 1 good runner who ran 15:20ish as a soph. and 4:25 but im not sure where he would be zoned for if he didnt go to Boylan

[spitfire@OPRF]

I've heard of some schools turning them into Academic Scholarships and stuff. Some private schools don't need to recruit though. They get good at a sport, and then kids want to go there to play. That's what happens for us and water polo.

http://www.privacyclue.com/blog-images/bs.jpg

[IRunSometimes.]

I've heard of some schools turning them into Academic Scholarships and stuff. Some private schools don't need to recruit though. They get good at a sport, and then kids want to go there to play. That's what happens for us and water polo.

who the hell plays water polo before hs?

[Swoosh13]

The only private school I hate is boylan. They steal all our athletes and never let up on anyone they just want to pound everyone in to the ground. Friday night they beat our basketball 103-47. Could they have let up just a little bit maybe?.. No because they are a bunch of @$$holes!

Yeah! I forgot about them, they knocked our basketball team out of supersectionals a while back (the only year we were ever good)

[ehof]

who the hell plays water polo before hs?
QFE.

And even if they do, who goes to a private school just because they want to play water polo there?

[Swoosh13]

Sounds like some petty whining.

Marian Catholic has 1575 students and with its penalty 1.65 multiplier for being able to recruit they move up to 2595 students which is still lower then it closest public school Bloom at 3280 students

Loyal Academy has 2091 students and with the multiplier 3450. New Trier the closest public high school to them has a 4201 enrollment.

As a public school if you can't compete with 3200 and 4200 students I can see why people would go to a private school.

why is it relevant that those schools are close to them? With those numbers they still are in the top 2/3 of enrollment.

[Funnage]

The BLACKlist? ****ing racist.

[jenuine13]

I've heard of some schools turning them into Academic Scholarships and stuff. Some private schools don't need to recruit though. They get good at a sport, and then kids want to go there to play. That's what happens for us and water polo.
and girls bball...
The only private school I hate is boylan. They steal all our athletes and never let up on anyone they just want to pound everyone in to the ground. Friday night they beat our basketball 103-47. Could they have let up just a little bit maybe?.. No because they are a bunch of @$$holes!
We put them in place when it comes to football though :D

I went to a private grade school, and now go to a public high school. 2 different private high schools did send reps to our grade school to tell us why we should go to there school, but they never offered us money on the spot. We were told scholarships were available if necessary. I have heard that some of the guys in the football feeder programs were approached by the catholic schools, but i'm not sure who actually talked to them, whether it was a coach, parent, who knows (i didn't pay a lot of attention back in the 8th grade). I think private schools do have a bit of an advantage, but at the same time, I think public schools are competing just fine with the privates right now.

[fldwtch87]

QFE.

And even if they do, who goes to a private school just because they want to play water polo there?

Brian Boitano

What Would Brian Boitano do?

[stuntmanxc]

I've heard of some schools turning them into Academic Scholarships and stuff. Some private schools don't need to recruit though. They get good at a sport, and then kids want to go there to play. That's what happens for us and water polo.

Seriously do you ever stop, I think we have all gotten your point on how Fenwick is the greatest school ever for sports.

[Trickster0831]

who the hell plays water polo before hs?

The kids on our team.

[Trickster0831]

Seriously do you ever stop, I think we have all gotten your point on how Fenwick is the greatest school ever for sports.

Sorry for the double post. I'm not talking about how great Fenwick is stupid. I'm making an example using my school. Would you rather I use some other private school to make the same example? This has nothing to do with my school. Maybe you just didn't read how Swoosh said to make your case. I am making a point for how private schools don't always recruit to get good athletes.

To make another point. Some parents believe that if their student isn't in all honors at the public high school, they won't get a good education, so they send them to a private school. Sometimes those kids are good at sports.

[ehof]

Sorry for the double post. I'm not talking about how great Fenwick is stupid. I'm making an example using my school. Would you rather I use some other private school to make the same example? This has nothing to do with my school. Maybe you just didn't read how Swoosh said to make your case. I am making a point for how private schools don't always recruit to get good athletes.

To make another point. Some parents believe that if their student isn't in all honors at the public high school, they won't get a good education, so they send them to a private school. Sometimes those kids are good at sports.

then who is u idiot?

[Fast4]

Well this is nothing new. St. Joe's basketball team is legendary for putting a great team on the floor every year. Pingatore the head coach and 8th grade phenom William Gates were featured in Hoops Dreams. Im not sure if its wrong, so much as it should immediately require those schools who do recruit to participate/compete in the largest class of whatever sport it may be. Private schools dont offer scholarships in the same sense that a university would. But they do give "tuition breaks" to those who may qualify.

I know York was accused in the mid 90's for recruiting when Marius Bakken fell into their lap. And Kyle Erickson moved up from Carbondale.

[stuntmanxc]

Sorry for the double post. I'm not talking about how great Fenwick is stupid. I'm making an example using my school. Would you rather I use some other private school to make the same example? This has nothing to do with my school. Maybe you just didn't read how Swoosh said to make your case. I am making a point for how private schools don't always recruit to get good athletes.

To make another point. Some parents believe that if their student isn't in all honors at the public high school, they won't get a good education, so they send them to a private school. Sometimes those kids are good at sports.

Actually yes I would've loved for you to have used different private schools. And it's pretty obvious that not all school's have to recruit, personally I think it is stupid that school's are capable of this recruiting process. I only said that because after reading your claim on the "Best All-Sports School" thread, it looks fairly similar to some posts from that thread, IMO. But whatever, I'll drop it. Just curious, what are some other private schools in the North/Northwestern Suburbs.

[Trickster0831]

Actually yes I would've loved for you to have used different private schools. And it's pretty obvious that not all school's have to recruit, personally I think it is stupid that school's are capable of this recruiting process. I only said that because after reading your claim on the "Best All-Sports School" thread, it looks fairly similar to some posts from that thread, IMO. But whatever, I'll drop it. Just curious, what are some other private schools in the North/Northwestern Suburbs.

Well, what towns do you consider North/Northwest?

[fldwtch87]

Well, what towns do you consider North/Northwest?

Carmel, St. Viator are 2 I know right off the bat. As far as I know they don't recruit. They used to come to my junior high to try and recruit us, but I went to a Catholic school so it's not really wrong for them to do that and I'm pretty sure there was no recruiting for athletics. If there was they missed out on a huge cross country talent ;)

[jenuine13]

Carmel, St. Viator are 2 I know right off the bat. As far as I know they don't recruit. They used to come to my junior high to try and recruit us, but I went to a Catholic school so it's not really wrong for them to do that and I'm pretty sure there was no recruiting for athletics. If there was they missed out on a huge cross country talent ;)
Which grade school did you go to?!?! You were probably in our conference (I went to St. Francis). We had Carmel and Viator reps come to our school as well. I wish that the public schools sent reps as well though, especially since my school usually split 50/50 or 60/40 private to public.

[EternalFreshman]

The only private school I hate is boylan. They steal all our athletes and never let up on anyone they just want to pound everyone in to the ground. Friday night they beat our basketball 103-47. Could they have let up just a little bit maybe?.. No because they are a bunch of @$$holes!

Yeah! I forgot about them, they knocked our basketball team out of supersectionals a while back (the only year we were ever good)

We crushed them in the elite 8 last year in basketball :)
Up 40 at one point...shut them out in the 3rd quarter like 25-0.

[Tall-n-Thin]

i think the two primary sports the private schools "recruit" for are football and basketball. however there are other reasons why kids choose to go there other than they are getting tuition breaks. many of them feel that if they are on top end teams they will be recognized by colleges more and get better opportunities down the road.


I know York was accused in the mid 90's for recruiting when Marius Bakken fell into their lap. And Kyle Erickson moved up from Carbondale.
also the dettmans moving before their freshman year, but that issue has been beaten to death

[DiscoGary]

... penalty 1.65 multiplier for being able to recruit ....

I had no idea there was a penalty for private schools. This puts a whole new spin on the "school choice" debate. It seems like the private schools are caught in a damned-if-you-do damned-if-you-don't situation. If they recruit, then they get hated on by Swoosh an Co. If they don't then they suffer a 65% penalty for being "honest".

Can someone fill me in on the exact rules regarding recruiting in HS? Also, I need details on the Dettmans moving to York. And where do the home schoolers fit into this deal?

Good topic Swoosh. I'll irritate you later when I know enough about the topic to do it properly.

[lwcxc]

The only private school I hate is boylan. They steal all our athletes and never let up on anyone they just want to pound everyone in to the ground. Friday night they beat our basketball 103-47. Could they have let up just a little bit maybe?.. No because they are a bunch of @$$holes!


Sad to discover this is still true. As a proud alum of Auburn, I remember the thrashing our basketball team received, 115-54, at the hands of the Titans. I also remember that their starting five all lived within a 1-mile radius of Auburn.

As has been pointed out in this thread already, Boylan isn't like St. Joe or Mt. Carmel, etc. They get owned once they reach state (Lake Zurich in football playoffs, Stevenson or Rock Island in basketball).

Not that this changes anything, but the recruiting issue does create some good rivalries (Bloom vs. Marian, Providence vs. LWC/LWE, New Trier/Evanston vs. Loyola, Fenwick vs. everyone on this board, Boylan vs. everyone else in Rockford, St. Joe vs. Proviso East). It makes for some great competition, even if recruiting sometimes tips the balance in favor of the private schools.

[Ikenator]

We crushed them in the elite 8 last year in basketball :)
Up 40 at one point...shut them out in the 3rd quarter like 25-0.

then we beat you, sorry about that...

Down south we definitely have the same problem. Althoff Catholic High School constantly recruits people for football, soccer and basketball. Usually we still beat them, but more than one of our star players has transferred because of recruiting or scholarships.

I know one kid played soccer for us and medaled at state in the 800. He moved from Missouri his junior year, and immediately he started getting contacted by this school all the time. He never actually transferred, but he would get really ticked off when they wouldn't leave him alone. Sucks to be good at stuff I guess.

Edit: At the same time, its not just private schools. We have lost a lot of good sprinters whose parents got an apartment in East St. Louis or Cahokia just to be on their sprint teams. I'm sure parents move to York because they want their kids to be great runners. I don't think the problem is strictly limited to private schools

[lwcxc]

Edit: At the same time, its not just private schools. We have lost a lot of good sprinters whose parents got an apartment in East St. Louis or Cahokia just to be on their sprint teams. I'm sure parents move to York because they want their kids to be great runners. I don't think the problem is strictly limited to private schools

True. When future Northwestern QB Zak Kustok was unhappy with the offense at Lincoln-Way, his dad rented an apartment/condo in Orland Park so that he could play for Sandburg. When I coached and taught at Rich East, there were quite a few kids who "lived" with aunts and uncles and cousins in Park Forest while their parents resided elsewhere.

[fldwtch87]

Which grade school did you go to?!?! You were probably in our conference (I went to St. Francis). We had Carmel and Viator reps come to our school as well. I wish that the public schools sent reps as well though, especially since my school usually split 50/50 or 60/40 private to public.

St. Mary's. I know we played St. Francis a lot for all sports, but I don't remember if we were in the same conference...we were in 2 conferences so I guess it's possible.

[ehof]

True. When future Northwestern QB Zak Kustok was unhappy with the offense at Lincoln-Way, his dad rented an apartment/condo in Orland Park so that he could play for Sandburg. When I coached and taught at Rich East, there were quite a few kids who "lived" with aunts and uncles and cousins in Park Forest while their parents resided elsewhere.

That happens a lot with basketball-- people transferring to Thornton, Rich Central, etc.

[XCCowboy]

I had no idea there was a penalty for private schools. This puts a whole new spin on the "school choice" debate. It seems like the private schools are caught in a damned-if-you-do damned-if-you-don't situation. If they recruit, then they get hated on by Swoosh an Co. If they don't then they suffer a 65% penalty for being "honest".

Can someone fill me in on the exact rules regarding recruiting in HS? Also, I need details on the Dettmans moving to York. And where do the home schoolers fit into this deal?

Good topic Swoosh. I'll irritate you later when I know enough about the topic to do it properly.

There is not a "penalty". It is a multiplier that is applied to all "non-boundaried" schools. There are also a handfull of public high schools that are subject to a mulitplier ( Normal U-high is one of them ).

Home schoolers are allowed to participate for the public schools that they would attend ( or where they are paying taxes too ).

"Recruiting" also is not illegal per se but the offering of money ( i.e. scholarships ) is. Many of these schools then offer incentives or breaks( financial assistance ) instead of coming out with a fistfull of dollars.

And although schools will vehemently deny they do this, they do.

[Swoosh13]

We crushed them in the elite 8 last year in basketball :)
Up 40 at one point...shut them out in the 3rd quarter like 25-0.

then we beat you, sorry about that...

Down south we definitely have the same problem. Althoff Catholic High School constantly recruits people for football, soccer and basketball. Usually we still beat them, but more than one of our star players has transferred because of recruiting or scholarships.


The basketball playoffs last year where pretty much irrelevant, you were all just playing to see who got to get their ass handed to them by Derrick Rose and Co., and O'Fallon won!

[ehof]

Home schoolers are allowed to participate for the public schools that they would attend ( or where they are paying taxes too ).I know someone who was home-schooled that ran for a private school. I think he knew it was illegal though and said the principal didn't know he was on the team.

[jenuine13]

St. Mary's. I know we played St. Francis a lot for all sports, but I don't remember if we were in the same conference...we were in 2 conferences so I guess it's possible.
you guys had a really good girls bball team if i remember right. i'm pretty sure we only ever beat you once :( but the one game we won was to win conference so that was a positive!!! yeah...we didn't like you guys too much lol

Just wondering, how do the non-boundaried public schools work? Are there any in the suburbs?

[konza847]

Just wondering, how do the non-boundaried public schools work? Are there any in the suburbs?

The only non-boundaried public school in the Chicago suburbs is Illinois Math Science Academy in Aurora.

A number of the Chicago Public League schools have open enrollment- charter schools, magnet schools, and the like. If you live in the district, you can attend any of a number of high schools. They're also subject to the multiplier for IHSA classification purposes.

[Swoosh13]

I've heard that Uhigh is about the stupidest school ever, in terms of the concept of it

[XCCowboy]

Just for reference, here is the list of all non-boundaried schools. There are actually 27 public schools that are non-bondaried.

http://www.ihsa.org/school/nonbound.htm

[KCSPEED]

There is not a "penalty". It is a multiplier that is applied to all "non-boundaried" schools. There are also a handfull of public high schools that are subject to a mulitplier ( Normal U-high is one of them ).

Home schoolers are allowed to participate for the public schools that they would attend ( or where they are paying taxes too ).

"Recruiting" also is not illegal per se but the offering of money ( i.e. scholarships ) is. Many of these schools then offer incentives or breaks( financial assistance ) instead of coming out with a fistfull of dollars.

And although schools will vehemently deny they do this, they do.

The penalty I mean multiplier was put in place because of all the private/non-boundary schools (Normal U-High) were making the finals of the football championship games. The multiplier is a penalty so these schools play larger public schools so there are less private schools in the finals.

[KCSPEED]

There is not a "penalty". It is a multiplier that is applied to all "non-boundaried" schools. There are also a handfull of public high schools that are subject to a mulitplier ( Normal U-high is one of them ).

Home schoolers are allowed to participate for the public schools that they would attend ( or where they are paying taxes too ).

"Recruiting" also is not illegal per se but the offering of money ( i.e. scholarships ) is. Many of these schools then offer incentives or breaks( financial assistance ) instead of coming out with a fistfull of dollars.

And although schools will vehemently deny they do this, they do.

If they couldn't recruit there would be not point to the mulitplier. And why would a good athlete go to a school if they could get an incentive?

[KCSPEED]

I had no idea there was a penalty for private schools. This puts a whole new spin on the "school choice" debate. It seems like the private schools are caught in a damned-if-you-do damned-if-you-don't situation. If they recruit, then they get hated on by Swoosh an Co. If they don't then they suffer a 65% penalty for being "honest".

Can someone fill me in on the exact rules regarding recruiting in HS? Also, I need details on the Dettmans moving to York. And where do the home schoolers fit into this deal?

Good topic Swoosh. I'll irritate you later when I know enough about the topic to do it properly.


The Dettmans ask some private schools in the area if they could get money and were turned down from what I heard. So Newton gave them a full ride. Just Joking!

[ehof]

So Newton gave them a full ride. Just Joking!You mean like how public school is free to everyone?

[KCSPEED]

You mean like how public school is free to everyone?

Yes except for that LARGE BOOK fee

[ehof]

Yes except for that LARGE BOOK fee

You could just... not pay it.

[idontgetit14]

A couple really good examples of private schools recruiting athletes for sports would be: Mt. Carmel, St. Rita, and Driscoll (all for football).

[IAmSpartacus]

QFE.

And even if they do, who goes to a private school just because they want to play water polo there?

This may seem odd to runners, but kids who swim play water polo too. When I swam, I briefely tried water polo. Schools like Fenwick, Br. Rice, and St. Pats all attract the top water polo players in the state because of the success of the programs, not just in the state, but nationally.

Sorry for the double post. I'm not talking about how great Fenwick is stupid. I'm making an example using my school. Would you rather I use some other private school to make the same example? This has nothing to do with my school. Maybe you just didn't read how Swoosh said to make your case. I am making a point for how private schools don't always recruit to get good athletes.

To make another point. Some parents believe that if their student isn't in all honors at the public high school, they won't get a good education, so they send them to a private school. Sometimes those kids are good at sports.

You really gotta stop talking down to people like Fenwick is the greatest place on Earth. I wouldn't have gone anywhere else, but that isn't the same for everyone.

And open your eyes, all private schools recruit in some way shape or form.

Well this is nothing new. St. Joe's basketball team is legendary for putting a great team on the floor every year. Pingatore the head coach and 8th grade phenom William Gates were featured in Hoops Dreams. Im not sure if its wrong, so much as it should immediately require those schools who do recruit to participate/compete in the largest class of whatever sport it may be. Private schools dont offer scholarships in the same sense that a university would. But they do give "tuition breaks" to those who may qualify.

I know York was accused in the mid 90's for recruiting when Marius Bakken fell into their lap. And Kyle Erickson moved up from Carbondale.

Classic case, Isiah Thomas was suppose to go to Weber H.S. (no longer in existance and high school of Coach K), took the entrance exam, but Pingatore "offered" Thomas what could be called a full ride to St. Joes. Maybe if Isiah went to Weber is would still be around :rolleyes:.

The Dettmans ask some private schools in the area if they could get money and were turned down from what I heard. So Newton gave them a full ride. Just Joking!

Funny story with the Dettmans, they were supposedly very interested in Fenwick for the academics and would run xc and track. Then Newton stepped in at a grade school meet and the rest was history. That's what I've heard, so it isnt only private schools that recruit, public schools do too as some people stated.

[Chicago style]

Weren't the Dettman's going to go to Willowbrook the same time as Luciano until they moved into the YORK area? Maybe i just heard wrong, but that would have been a good team.

[ehof]

Weren't the Dettman's going to go to Willowbrook the same time as Luciano until they moved into the YORK area? Maybe i just heard wrong, but that would have been a good team.

Well, according to iamspartacus it sounds like they might've gone to Fenwick if not York.

[BigBo]

Weren't the Dettman's going to go to Willowbrook the same time as Luciano until they moved into the YORK area? Maybe i just heard wrong, but that would have been a good team.

Klatt(s) was there too.

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I was at a Basketball tournament in 8th grade at Dirscoll and not sure how this guy new me, but he approached me and was talking about how great it was to play baseball for Driscoll and was sort of a recruitment pitch. Money was brought up and the whole "academic scholarship/financial aid/we'll make it happen" thing was stated. (Which was somewhat weird considering I was at a basketball tourney)

Being in 8th grade, I thought it was the coolest thing ever. The baseball team was solid, and at that point I was terrified of going to a large public school. I ended up not wanting to leave my friends, but being recruited, how informal or formal it was, was really nice and you feel like you are actually important. For some kids, having coaches or parents talking to you because of a skill you have and 'buttering' you up could be enough to go to a private school IMO.

[jenuine13]

Klatt(s) was there too.

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I was at a Basketball tournament in 8th grade at Dirscoll and not sure how this guy new me, but he approached me and was talking about how great it was to play baseball for Driscoll and was sort of a recruitment pitch. Money was brought up and the whole "academic scholarship/financial aid/we'll make it happen" thing was stated. (Which was somewhat weird considering I was at a basketball tourney)

Being in 8th grade, I thought it was the coolest thing ever. The baseball team was solid, and at that point I was terrified of going to a large public school. I ended up not wanting to leave my friends, but being recruited, how informal or formal it was, was really nice and you feel like you are actually important. For some kids, having coaches or parents talking to you because of a skill you have and 'buttering' you up could be enough to go to a private school IMO.
I know what you mean. An 8th grader simply likes having the attention, and that can easily sway their decision.

[Trickster0831]

You really gotta stop talking down to people like Fenwick is the greatest place on Earth. I wouldn't have gone anywhere else, but that isn't the same for everyone.

And open your eyes, all private schools recruit in some way shape or form.


Yah...because I really did think that the Fab Five came to Fenwick for basketball all out of coincidence and none of it was recruitment...

[idontgetit14]

Weren't the Dettman's going to go to Willowbrook the same time as Luciano until they moved into the YORK area? Maybe i just heard wrong, but that would have been a good team.


I thought they didn't move, they just decided to pay out of district fees so they could go to York??

[Swoosh13]

Yah...because I really did think that the Fab Five came to Fenwick for basketball all out of coincidence and none of it was recruitment...

http://www.realitytvcalendar.com/shows/pics/qe.jpg

[ehof]

I thought they didn't move, they just decided to pay out of district fees so they could go to York??
You can't do that.

[Trickster0831]

You can't do that.

Yes you can...unless you mean playing on a sport team in that situation. I believe it costs 12,000 dollers a year to go to york out of district this year. One of the kids on our team lives 100 ft from the district line, but still lives in Elmhurst. They said he had to go to Willowbrook, or pay the tuition to go to York. He opted Fenwick instead. That reminds me of how many runners on our team wanted to go to York haha.

[LongRunner88]

Funny story with the Dettmans, they were supposedly very interested in Fenwick for the academics and would run xc and track. Then Newton stepped in at a grade school meet and the rest was history. That's what I've heard, so it isnt only private schools that recruit, public schools do too as some people stated.[/QUOTE]

We actually were not that interested in Fenwick. They always sent us Team Manuals, Cross Country Books, and Schedules but we never really considered it. If anything, the only Catholic Schools that we thought about going to were St. Francis and Ignatius. And actually it was not Newton who talked to us at a grade school meet but Nelson from St. Francis.

[EternalFreshman]

then we beat you, sorry about that...


Yeah....you had this really tall guy, and our team couldn't stop him seeing that our tallest starter was 6'3-6'4

The basketball playoffs last year where pretty much irrelevant, you were all just playing to see who got to get their ass handed to them by Derrick Rose and Co., and O'Fallon won!

true, but it would've been cool to get our asses handed to us by him. The best part about that 2nd day of the tournament was that Ollie and I went and ran at Detweiller after the 1st game.



btw, I love all the speculation on this thread. I'm glad that one of the Dettmen finally straightened their part out.

[maverick]

http://www.realitytvcalendar.com/shows/pics/qe.jpg

this is the real fab 5

http://umtailgate.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/02/fab%20five.jpg

i would bet money that we never again see a class make the NCAA championship with all freshman starters one year, and then follow it up and do the same thing the next year.

[IAmSpartacus]

this is the real fab 5

[/img]http://umtailgate.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/02/fab%20five.jpg[/img]

i would bet money that we never again see a class make the NCAA championship with all freshman starters one year, and then follow it up and do the same thing the next year.

of course not, they would all go pro :p.

[maverick]

of course not, they would all go pro :p.

exactly!!

[Swoosh13]

i would bet money that we never again see a class make the NCAA championship with all freshman starters one year, and then follow it up and do the same thing the next year.

QFIrony

[maverick]

QFIrony

how so, michigan didnt get busted for gambling. They got busted for boosters giving illegal benefits.

[still a runner]

Um, our[marian] football team sucks. do you really think a sign saying"join our team" would make kids change their entire school choice to go here because of that? no. the only sport people will actually go here for is girl's basketball, or band, but that isnt a sport.

band kids. ew