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g2g4gold
12-25-2007, 10:36 PM
tonight at 7:30pm my friend and I were at MY high school track about to run. We finished warming up and everything and were on the line about to start. All of a sudden we saw sirens, but not the regular kind. it was a security guard AKA rent-a-cop. he told us we had to get off the track and we were not allowed on it. I was WTF!?!??! he was like, yah no one is allowed on the track after 7. so I said, "are you serious? I go to this school, my family pays taxes and they helped build this track. I have been running on this track for 5 years and I am the captain of THIS schools track team the last two years. I have basically every track record. Are we really not allowed on it?" He is just like "yah, get off now or I will take down your license plate and report you" we were baffled. everyone else walkign on the track in shell shock. I have been on this track plenty of times at night and at times much later then 7:30. I had no idea they could do this. we ended up going to a private school's track right by our school that is actually nicer and mondo but still...I cant believe it happened. I am telling my coach tomorrow.

Mileman
12-25-2007, 10:50 PM
Oh man, that blows i'd be pissed if i was kicked off of my track.

i hate "fake" cops or any cop that just wants to nit-pick the littlest crime they see shouldn't they be out fighting the real crime i meen if you were too thugs, then i could see him yelling at you, but were you in your running gear? i meen thats just pointless.....


he was prolly sick and tired of whacking off in his rent-a-cop car and saw an opportunity to prove that he's tough.... what a jerk.

/rant

(i've been abused by my school cop, for stupid reasons, and im a good student, one of those "wrong place wrong time" type of things.....)

(after reading the rest of the arguements on the thread, realized how stupid comment really was)

NJ5k
12-25-2007, 11:07 PM
It's his job to keep the grounds clear after a certain time. It's simple enough: he is paid to make sure people, whether they are kids running or kids dealing drugs or adults doing who knows what, stay off the track. Unless your coach or someone has a special arrangement with the board of ed. or other administrators, your being a captain has no bearing on whether you're allowed on the track. And just because you pay taxes doesn't mean you can do whatever you want with whatever it is they bought with your money. For instance, I can't just roll up to my local police station, pop my head in, grab the keys to a cruiser, and speed off to the mall, although the cruiser was presumably purchased with tax money. Nor could I (legitimately) call up George in the White House and tell him that, since I (may have) paid in part for it, I get to decide the fate of some H-bomb lying around.

dtrun
12-25-2007, 11:21 PM
It's his job to keep the grounds clear after a certain time. It's simple enough: he is paid to make sure people, whether they are kids running or kids dealing drugs or adults doing who knows what, stay off the track. Unless your coach or someone has a special arrangement with the board of ed. or other administrators, your being a captain has no bearing on whether you're allowed on the track. And just because you pay taxes doesn't mean you can do whatever you want with whatever it is they bought with your money. For instance, I can't just roll up to my local police station, pop my head in, grab the keys to a cruiser, and speed off to the mall, although the cruiser was presumably purchased with tax money. Nor could I (legitimately) call up George in the White House and tell him that, since I (may have) paid in part for it, I get to decide the fate of some H-bomb lying around.

nor can you keep your arguments grounded in reality, apparently.

trackgirlzdoitbetter
12-25-2007, 11:25 PM
tonight at 7:30pm my friend and I were at MY high school track about to run. We finished warming up and everything and were on the line about to start. All of a sudden we saw sirens, but not the regular kind. it was a security guard AKA rent-a-cop. he told us we had to get off the track and we were not allowed on it. I was WTF!?!??! he was like, yah no one is allowed on the track after 7. so I said, "are you serious? I go to this school, my family pays taxes and they helped build this track. I have been running on this track for 5 years and I am the captain of THIS schools track team the last two years. I have basically every track record. Are we really not allowed on it?" He is just like "yah, get off now or I will take down your license plate and report you" we were baffled. everyone else walkign on the track in shell shock. I have been on this track plenty of times at night and at times much later then 7:30. I had no idea they could do this. we ended up going to a private school's track right by our school that is actually nicer and mondo but still...I cant believe it happened. I am telling my coach tomorrow.

haha andrew n i saw him there in the front and i was like lets not go right past him.. and andrews like its not like they can kick us off

NJ5k
12-25-2007, 11:39 PM
nor can you keep your arguments grounded in reality, apparently.
Maybe not, but at least I have an argument. All I was trying to say is that the "I pay taxes that may have provided a marginal amount of funding for it so it's mine" mindset won't get anyone very far.

Another thing to consider is that in the same way your family may have contributed to the construction of the track which conveniently meets your need for a place to train during certain hours, your family may have indirectly contributed just as substantially to the salary of this evil, tyrannical, good-for-nothing security guard. Oh that's right, he would only be good-for-nothing if he hadn't done his job, which inconveniently for you is to keep people off the track at night.

The bottom line as far as I see it is that it's the guy's job to keep the grounds clear and safe, and he would have been defaulting on his job if he hadn't done anything in that situation (i.e., his job).

This is not all to say that I wouldn't have been frustrated had I been in that situation, just to say that you have to see where he and his bosses are coming from and why we may not be as entitled to unlimited use of our tracks as we would like to be.

cardsXC
12-25-2007, 11:45 PM
they see shouldn't they be out fighting the real crime i meen if you were too thugs, then i could see him yelling at you, but were you in your running gear? i meen thats just pointless.....


i meen kuz he shud just patrol based on ur race, right? kuz if they dont look guilty then they arent

Machine
12-26-2007, 12:12 AM
tonight at 7:30pm my friend and I were at MY high school track about to run. We finished warming up and everything and were on the line about to start. All of a sudden we saw sirens, but not the regular kind. it was a security guard AKA rent-a-cop. he told us we had to get off the track and we were not allowed on it. I was WTF!?!??! he was like, yah no one is allowed on the track after 7. so I said, "are you serious? I go to this school, my family pays taxes and they helped build this track. I have been running on this track for 5 years and I am the captain of THIS schools track team the last two years. I have basically every track record. Are we really not allowed on it?" He is just like "yah, get off now or I will take down your license plate and report you" we were baffled. everyone else walkign on the track in shell shock. I have been on this track plenty of times at night and at times much later then 7:30. I had no idea they could do this. we ended up going to a private school's track right by our school that is actually nicer and mondo but still...I cant believe it happened. I am telling my coach tomorrow.

Sucks for you and your friend. I would just like to say... You got Pwn'd by the security guard.

bluedevil
12-26-2007, 03:24 AM
I was kicked off my track one morning when some teammates and I were doing an easy 3 before school around 5:30 (this was all coach's orders). It was an actual city cop who stopped us in midrun and wrote down our names with intentions of giving it to our principal. Upon showing up to school we had to sit through a conference between us, the principal, and the coach that ended with us having to give our principal a week's notice before we run before school so he can clear it through the police officer. Bottom line was the principal couldnt understand why we would need time other than practice since all we do is run.

Hope your coach clears everything up for ya

spitfire@OPRF
12-26-2007, 08:36 AM
We use a college's track nearby, so if I want to do anything on my own, it can be a hassle. But, I haven't had a problem since one of our alum/volunteer coach became a security guard there :cool:

gcrunner
12-26-2007, 09:52 AM
I was kicked off my track one morning when some teammates and I were doing an easy 3 before school around 5:30 (this was all coach's orders). It was an actual city cop who stopped us in midrun and wrote down our names with intentions of giving it to our principal. Upon showing up to school we had to sit through a conference between us, the principal, and the coach that ended with us having to give our principal a week's notice before we run before school so he can clear it through the police officer. Bottom line was the principal couldnt understand why we would need time other than practice since all we do is run.
Hope your coach clears everything up for ya

You should have told him after he didn't understand why you're running in the morning, the whole lydiard base-building phase and how you need to balance quality and quantity in mpw. Totally bore the **** out of your principal. Then tell him about after base-building for a long time, you gradually add tempos,hill bounding, so and so forth. Just to waste the guy's time and piss him off.

FroshSophXC
12-26-2007, 10:52 AM
nor can you keep your arguments grounded in reality, apparently.

Nor can you respond with a constructive post, apparently.

g2g4gold
12-26-2007, 12:23 PM
It's his job to keep the grounds clear after a certain time. It's simple enough: he is paid to make sure people, whether they are kids running or kids dealing drugs or adults doing who knows what, stay off the track. Unless your coach or someone has a special arrangement with the board of ed. or other administrators, your being a captain has no bearing on whether you're allowed on the track. And just because you pay taxes doesn't mean you can do whatever you want with whatever it is they bought with your money. For instance, I can't just roll up to my local police station, pop my head in, grab the keys to a cruiser, and speed off to the mall, although the cruiser was presumably purchased with tax money. Nor could I (legitimately) call up George in the White House and tell him that, since I (may have) paid in part for it, I get to decide the fate of some H-bomb lying around.

I think it is ridiculous that they can kick us off a track because it is dark out. he said he was going to take my license plate down and he would report us and if any damage occurred it'd be our fault. I was about to say, "my license plate is G2G4GOLD and you can blame everything that happens on this track in the next half hour on me"
btw I stole the "Track Rules Sign" that used to be at our school and it says 8pm. So really I had more time. And it also has no opening time so when am I allowed to start running? Does it close at 8 and open at 8:05. I also dont know of any damage that can really occur to our track. Am I going to rip it up by running on it?

Shinjin
12-26-2007, 12:48 PM
I think it is ridiculous that they can kick us off a track because it is dark out. he said he was going to take my license plate down and he would report us and if any damage occurred it'd be our fault. I was about to say, "my license plate is G2G4GOLD and you can blame everything that happens on this track in the next half hour on me"
btw I stole the "Track Rules Sign" that used to be at our school and it says 8pm. So really I had more time. And it also has no opening time so when am I allowed to start running? Does it close at 8 and open at 8:05. I also dont know of any damage that can really occur to our track. Am I going to rip it up by running on it?

I play ultimate frisbee at my school from 8 til past midnight sometimes, and here's what I've found. The security guard came in occasionally and kicked us out for staying too long, but that all changed when we founded the "Ultimate Frisbee Club".

As a school-sanctioned club, we've been able to play until whatever time without a security hitch. I'd think that'd carry over to the school track team, in your case, but I guess not. :( Is it too late to start some kind of Track Club?

PrimalXC
12-26-2007, 02:38 PM
Nor can you respond with a constructive post, apparently.

Neither can you.

I've been kicked off a field by like 3 or 4 policemen (they all came at the same time in 2 squad cars) for playing soccer before because we were "tearing up the field." It was ridiculous because there was only 2 or 3 of us playing.

**** da police

NJ5k
12-27-2007, 12:54 AM
I think it is ridiculous that they can kick us off a track because it is dark out. he said he was going to take my license plate down and he would report us and if any damage occurred it'd be our fault. I was about to say, "my license plate is G2G4GOLD and you can blame everything that happens on this track in the next half hour on me"
btw I stole the "Track Rules Sign" that used to be at our school and it says 8pm. So really I had more time. And it also has no opening time so when am I allowed to start running? Does it close at 8 and open at 8:05. I also dont know of any damage that can really occur to our track. Am I going to rip it up by running on it?
I agree that all these rules are pretty arbitrary and maybe frustrating. But his job is to enforce the rules, not to apply them how he sees fit or change them in any way. If you want to change the rules, you have to go to the administration, not the enforcement, the same way as when someone challenges the legality of a law it's in court, AFTER he/she has been arrested and charged.

runnerman17
12-27-2007, 12:58 AM
I first glanced at this thread title and thought "Merber got kicked off his team" then i read closer and was ok with it.

run_nyc
12-27-2007, 01:26 AM
beer mile?

The_Gleas
12-27-2007, 01:27 AM
tonight at 7:30pm my friend and I were at MY high school track about to run. We finished warming up and everything and were on the line about to start. All of a sudden we saw sirens, but not the regular kind. it was a security guard AKA rent-a-cop. he told us we had to get off the track and we were not allowed on it. I was WTF!?!??! he was like, yah no one is allowed on the track after 7. so I said, "are you serious? I go to this school, my family pays taxes and they helped build this track. I have been running on this track for 5 years and I am the captain of THIS schools track team the last two years. I have basically every track record. Are we really not allowed on it?" He is just like "yah, get off now or I will take down your license plate and report you" we were baffled. everyone else walkign on the track in shell shock. I have been on this track plenty of times at night and at times much later then 7:30. I had no idea they could do this. we ended up going to a private school's track right by our school that is actually nicer and mondo but still...I cant believe it happened. I am telling my coach tomorrow.

he was prolly just pissed cause he had to work on X-mas.
But it still makes almost no sense. Other then you could be vandals. Can your running circles around the track be counted as "suspicious activity." Ik I've gotten in trouble by police because sometimes I run at night and it's "suspicious." But still I have no clue why this rule could exist. Next time just race him for use of it.

80miles/week
12-27-2007, 02:33 AM
i was doing hurdle drills around 7:30pm at my school's track (private, track closes at 6pm, gates were open though) when this security guard walks up to me. my ipod was on so I didn't hear him and next thing i know this lights being flashed in my eye. he asked me if i was a student, what was i doing, and wheres my ID. after i explained he asked me if i could see (this was last week, so it was dark). then he left me alone! i was like ok cool. finished my hurdles. left.

too bad there arent more guards like that. that sucks. hopefully he wont show up in the future. maybe get a note from your coach, signed by school principal?

Mileman
12-27-2007, 03:58 PM
i meen kuz he shud just patrol based on ur race, right? kuz if they dont look guilty then they arent

Point taken, im not gonna argue. :o

although i will say (probally argue) that i didn't intend for that to be seen as a racial comment, or on the "don't look guilty then they arent" thing. But w.e

And just cause i said looks like thugs. doesn't meen that he should patrol based on race, i was trying to say that maybe he could let up a bit and let G2g do his workout, i can understand the guards situation and all (with his job) but maybe he could've cut them a break, but then again that'd f*ck him over if they actually were bad people doing bad things. so yeah w.e i get what you were saying....[/COLOR]

Jeffhoernemann
12-27-2007, 06:27 PM
lol! this thread is like this video:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=GplUshckhn0&feature=related

michak
12-29-2007, 02:07 AM
One time during the summer I got kicked of the track by the football coach because the football team was about to come out and use the field and if I was on the track it would be distracting and I was like this isn't just your track I'm training for cross country and I won't be in the way, but he said you already had practice and blah blah blah, well at the end of the season his teams had no wins and cross country had a state champion on they team so maybe the could have used a distraction.

PoserMobile
01-01-2008, 05:55 PM
tonight at 7:30pm my friend and I were at MY high school track about to run. We finished warming up and everything and were on the line about to start. All of a sudden we saw sirens, but not the regular kind. it was a security guard AKA rent-a-cop. he told us we had to get off the track and we were not allowed on it. I was WTF!?!??! he was like, yah no one is allowed on the track after 7. so I said, "are you serious? I go to this school, my family pays taxes and they helped build this track. I have been running on this track for 5 years and I am the captain of THIS schools track team the last two years. I have basically every track record. Are we really not allowed on it?" He is just like "yah, get off now or I will take down your license plate and report you" we were baffled. everyone else walkign on the track in shell shock. I have been on this track plenty of times at night and at times much later then 7:30. I had no idea they could do this. we ended up going to a private school's track right by our school that is actually nicer and mondo but still...I cant believe it happened. I am telling my coach tomorrow.

big deal, u overreact by going to the internet to start a thread about it.

WOOLYRUNS
01-01-2008, 10:43 PM
Well whatever, don't drive next time.

Runninglgd9689
01-01-2008, 11:37 PM
One time during indoor the JV coach tried to kick us out on a day it was -10 outside, so we got the A.D. to come and trump him and ran anyway.

boo9radley
01-02-2008, 10:58 AM
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=fauxpo

MikeGamms
01-02-2008, 12:20 PM
You should have told him after he didn't understand why you're running in the morning, the whole lydiard base-building phase and how you need to balance quality and quantity in mpw. Totally bore the **** out of your principal. Then tell him about after base-building for a long time, you gradually add tempos,hill bounding, so and so forth. Just to waste the guy's time and piss him off.

based on the principals comments, im assuming the conversation already bored the hell out of him. to a non runner, running is the most boring thing imaginable.

DARK HORSE
01-05-2008, 09:16 PM
tonight at 7:30pm my friend and I were at MY high school track about to run. We finished warming up and everything and were on the line about to start. All of a sudden we saw sirens, but not the regular kind. it was a security guard AKA rent-a-cop. he told us we had to get off the track and we were not allowed on it. I was WTF!?!??! he was like, yah no one is allowed on the track after 7. so I said, "are you serious? I go to this school, my family pays taxes and they helped build this track. I have been running on this track for 5 years and I am the captain of THIS schools track team the last two years. I have basically every track record. Are we really not allowed on it?" He is just like "yah, get off now or I will take down your license plate and report you" we were baffled. everyone else walkign on the track in shell shock. I have been on this track plenty of times at night and at times much later then 7:30. I had no idea they could do this. we ended up going to a private school's track right by our school that is actually nicer and mondo but still...I cant believe it happened. I am telling my coach tomorrow.

I CAN'T BELIEVE YOU GAVE IN. I WOULD'VE TOOK MY CAR OUT OF THE AREA, RAN OVER TO THE TRACK AND DID A WORKOUT ON THAT TRACK, DON'T GIVE IN TO PEOPLE LIKE THIS AND GIVE THEM ANY SORT OF FEELING THEY HAVE POWER IN A SITUATION THAT IS SO MELLO TO BEGIN WITH.\

MAKE SURE THIS SENORIO HAPPENS AGAIN, AND FOLLOW MY DIRECTIONS.(PARK OUT WHERE HE CAN'T VIEW YOUR LICENSE PLATE, OR KNOW THAT'S YOURS OR YOUR FRIENDS CAR.)

-THE DH