New Mexico

[underdog]

Hey, 505runner, rippev, minibee,... what is going on out there in NM? Who's going to be tough. I see where that Tebo kid ran 9:04. How about teams? Any predictions?

[505runner]

well on the 5A boys side you could look for tebo, argeulles(sp), philbert brown, matt everett, and kevin mcnally. im not sure about 4A guys except that dustin martin and jason petty will be good.

For teams in 5A youll have to ask rippiv, im biased into thinking my own school (la cueva) will repeat.
for 4A it is always between the albuquerque acadamy and los alamos and will be again this year

[DCsoloRunner]

does anybody know where I can get a list of UNM's recruits this year I've looked everywhere but I can't find it

[DCsoloRunner]

I'm gonna be in the Las vegas/pecos area next week for some buisness (land management) how bad will the elevation kill me. I've been running in the mid 30's mpw and I never have trouble with altitude while hiking or biking, but will it really make a difference running

[RedArmy]

Going from East Dallas to a hilly 6500 - 7000 feet, you'll feel it. When you get home tell us how you think it compares to what you are used to.

[rippev]

for 4A you can't forget about Gilna from las alamos! 2nd at state last year.

for 5A matt(tebo) will most likely run away with the state title and i think that highland will win state but i dunno there are other teams right up there.

[theshoe]

505runner how do you like your new coach?

[505runner]

505runner how do you like your new coach?

hes really serious about running, but after practice hes really chill.

[505runner]

theshoe, who are you?

[jasari408]

that sucks what coach clark did to eldorado though but i hear they got a really tight guy from del norte

[psyched up and spiked up]

Yeah, they picked up Jimmy Butler. He's supposed to be really knowledgable about the sport. They've been doing pretty intense workouts.

[505runner]

was he the head coach at del norte?

[rippev]

he ran at wake forest somebody told me.. and he's young. i don't think he was the coach at DN

[theshoe]

yeah i heard he's a really good runner, and he's young too. he was the assistant coach at del norte.

[rippev]

yeah i heard he's a really good runner, and he's young too. he was the assistant coach at del norte.

who are you?

[theshoe]

I just graduated from eldo. i just know what's going on with them bc my brother is still running.

[minibee]

Hey, it's my birthday!

BTW, anyone going to Alamosa this week or UNM next week? I'll be there!!

[rippev]

UNM meet! woohoo

[Tweek]

minibee
Hey, it's my birthday!


There is a whole fricking thread for you in the playground.

[BLCH]

Any Late predictions for the UNM meet?

Girls:
1. Gallup
2. Eldorado
3. Los Alamos

Boys:
1. Academy
2. La Cueva
3. Los Alamos

Anyone else?

[rippev]

Academy boys crushed everybody. eldorado girls did the same! vanessa won for the girls and tebo won with a 14:50 for the guys!!!!!!!!

[eagle08]

Academy boys won with 65 points and Eldorado girls won with 48 points. Vanessa's time was 18:05.

[duh goddphada]

What do you guys think about SW#4 Page coming to the Gallup Invitation to go head to head with SW#2 Albuquerque Academy?

In my opinion, I think Page will get the upper hand. Page's :40 second splits from 1-6 (not 1-5) are way better than Academy's split of 1:20 from 1-5.

I also believe Page's Levi Lomeland and Donovan Tsinnijinnie can run with Academy's Dustin Miller and Ben Johnson.

So, what do you guys think?

[duh goddphada]

Its official, Page will be racing in the Gallup Invitational. Their going to pass on Arizona's biggest meet (Doug Conley Invite) and bump heads with Albuquerque Academy. Oh boy, I can't wait. I just hope AA is ready.

[watchout]

Its official, Page will be racing in the Gallup Invitational. Their going to pass on Arizona's biggest meet (Doug Conley Invite) and bump heads with Albuquerque Academy. Oh boy, I can't wait. I just hope AA is ready.

That is great!! This is just what Page needed, to be able to prove they can run with the best. When is the invite?

[eagle08]

What do you guys think about SW#4 Page coming to the Gallup Invitation to go head to head with SW#2 Albuquerque Academy?

In my opinion, I think Page will get the upper hand. Page's :40 second splits from 1-6 (not 1-5) are way better than Academy's split of 1:20 from 1-5.

I also believe Page's Levi Lomeland and Donovan Tsinnijinnie can run with Academy's Dustin Miller and Ben Johnson.

So, what do you guys think?

That's actually Dustin Martin. I don't know much about Page but from what I hear, it should be a good meet to watch. Let's see, Gallup invite isn't for a while, I think. *checks* its on October 1st.
:)

[watchout]

Thanks! October 1 should be a good day for racing. Gallup in the SW, Danner in the NW, Sunfair in the NW, and then a week later Manhattan in the NE.

More info on Page for you ...

4 #1008 Lomeland, Levi SR Page High School 5:34.2 17:18.2 3
6 #1013 Tsinnijinnie, Dono SR Page High School 5:35.0 17:20.8 5
8 #1006 Lee, Nathan SR Page High School 5:39.1 17:33.4 7
11 #1011 Smith, Antonio SR Page High School 5:45.7 17:54.1 10
12 #1004 Jim, Javier JR Page High School 5:46.0 17:55.0 11
15 #1002 Bitsoie, Tomai SO Page High School 5:48.9 18:03.8 14

1 Page High School 36 3 5 7 10 11 14
Total Time: 1:28:01.50
Average: 17:36.30
2 Chinle High School 119 9 18 21 35 36 39 72
Total Time: 1:31:52.30
Average: 18:22.46

Levi Lomeland ran 4:26.24 this spring
Dono Tsinnijinnie ran 4:29.77/9:44.88
in the best results I could find for the rest ...
Nathan Lee ran 10:22.45
Antonio Smith ran 10:12.29
Tomai Bitsoi ran 10:20 supposedly.

Basically, they have the potential to be a very potent pack team... I don't think they will be ahead of Martin or Johnson, but they should fall in line shortly after that. Should be fairly close race between those two teams.

[mountainman]

Martin and Johnson will walk away from everyone but the top two Los Alamos guys. Academy wins by at least 25 points on this one methinks. Page looks good but about as good as the rest of Academy's team minus the front runners.

[watchout]

... you don't think Martin and Johnson will run away from AA's #3/4 runners?

Last meet:

2- Ben Johnson, Academy 15:03
4- Dustin Martin, Academy 15:15
15- Kyle Cooper, Academy 16:01
17- Cal Armerding, Academy 16:07



Yeah, I'm pretty sure that Page's 1 and 2 runners will be closer to Johnson and Martin than Cooper and Amerding will be. Should look something like this, IMO:

Johnson
Martin
Lomeland
Tsinnijinnie
Lee
Cooper
Amerding
Smith
Javier
Bitsoie
Hauswald (could be up with Amerding, but I put him here for what he ran last meet)

Scoring as a dual would have:
AA - 1,2,6,7,11 = 27
Page - 3,4,5,8,9 = 29


I'm thinking it will be close.

[run_distance]

Does anyone know where Manzano HS runs their Invitational tomorrow?

[rippev]

Top of Indian School foothills

[eagle08]

Indian school trailhead.

[run_distance]

I really appreciate the information!

[duh goddphada]

Sorry, but, are you kidding me? AA over Page? No way! The times Page display are at higher elevation, of course AA is going have faster times. Plus, running on courses shorter than 3 miles and lower elevation makes you look good.

Watchout, no disrespect, but you gotta do your research. Page is averaging :40 seconds from 1-6, yes 1-6, and compare that to AA 1:25 from 1-5, theres is no way AA's going to beat Page with that.

Plus, Lomeland and Tsinnijinnie can run with the best of them. There is no doubt in my mind their going to break up AA's 1 and 2.

So I'm thinking...

Johnson
Lomeland
Tsinnijinnie
Martin
Lee
Smith
Javier
Cooper
Bitsoie
Armerding
Hauswald

Page: 2,3,5,6,7 = 23
AA: 1,4,8,10,11 = 34

But after today's results, AA is way OVERRATED. Fort Collins should get the SW#1, followed by Page, Rock Springs and then AA. And as for Martin and Johnson walking away from everybody? I don't think so...6 and 8 at Liberty Bell.

[watchout]

Sorry, but, are you kidding me? AA over Page? No way! The times Page display are at higher elevation, of course AA is going have faster times. Plus, running on courses shorter than 3 miles and lower elevation makes you look good.

Watchout, no disrespect, but you gotta do your research. Page is averaging :40 seconds from 1-6, yes 1-6, and compare that to AA 1:25 from 1-5, theres is no way AA's going to beat Page with that.

Plus, Lomeland and Tsinnijinnie can run with the best of them. There is no doubt in my mind their going to break up AA's 1 and 2.

So I'm thinking...

Johnson
Lomeland
Tsinnijinnie
Martin
Lee
Smith
Javier
Cooper
Bitsoie
Armerding
Hauswald

Page: 2,3,5,6,7 = 23
AA: 1,4,8,10,11 = 34

But after today's results, AA is way OVERRATED. Fort Collins should get the SW#1, followed by Page, Rock Springs and then AA. And as for Martin and Johnson walking away from everybody? I don't think so...6 and 8 at Liberty Bell.

With all due respect, I did do my research and I didn't base these on pure times.

Why did I put Johnson and Martin together at 1/2? Because half the time Johnson beats Martin, the other half Martin beats Johnson. Last year, Albequerque had 3 guys that could be their #1 on any day, and the others usually within 5 seconds of him. This year they have two, which are usually within 8 seconds of eachother.

Yes, I am well aware of Page's 40 second split 1-6. That is why they go 3/4/5 against AA, and then a very close race for 6/7/8/9/10, where I just put AA in 6/7 because that's how I think it will go.

If you want to look at times, let's just say for arguements sake that I have Johnson at 15:10. Martin would follow in about 15:14, and then Lomeland and Tsinnijinnie and would follow in about 15:25 and 15:27. Lee comes in at 15:40, Smith and Javier around 16:02, while Cooper comes in around 16:01 and Amerding comes in around 16:05. Bitsoie would come in around 16:10, and then Hauswald probably around 16:20.

What would that give you?

Johnson 15:10
Martin 15:14
Lomeland 15:25
Tsinnijinnie 15:27
Lee 15:40
Cooper 16:01
Smith 16:02
Javier 16:02
Amerding 16:05
Bitsoie 16:10
Hauswald 16:25

AA 1-5 spread: 1:15
Page 1-6 spread: :45

Scoring as a dual would have:
AA - 1,2,6,7,11 = 27
Page - 3,4,5,8,9 = 29

I think that would be a reasonable assessment.

p.s., about the spreads ...

Page had a 40 second spread in ONE race so far. Who is to say they will consistantly be around 40 seconds? I imagine that was a slightly above average race for their #6, and an average race for their front 2.

AA, on the other hand, is a bit less consistant yet doesn't always have such a bad spread.

At Del Norte invite, Hauswald was only 59 seconds behind AA's #1 runner. They had a 1:20 1-5 spread then, but Amerding had an obviously bad day. I would bet that the average spread for this AA team would be closer to 1:10, maybe even just below :50 by the end of the season. For right now, an average spread would probably be around 1:05-1:15. Look for something like that at the Gallup meet.

[watchout]

Page had a 40 second spread in ONE race so far. Who is to say they will consistantly be around 40 seconds? I imagine that was a slightly above average race for their #6, and an average race for their front 2.

For those who didn't see yet, Page had a 1:13 spread 1-5 at the Chilne Invite, with everybody running.

I guess they won't stay :40 1-6 every race this year ... darn.

Good sign for AA.

Oh, and more from Liberty Bell ... AA's actual spread, 1-5, was 1:19 (hey, look at that ... very similar to Page's!) with Hauswald only running #6 for them.

[correr de milla del norte]

o.O a New Mexico thread. cool find :D i stayed in New Mexico for a month this summer. loved it. wish i could move there. awsome altitude in alb. i was there for a month but still cannot spell it...

i stayed right down the street from Alb. Acadamy. insainly nice school...
anyone on here attend?

sry to interupt- good luck

[five05]

Watch out for Eldo girls, they are young and fast. If they stay healthy, they will be tough in NM.

[eagle08]

o.O a New Mexico thread. cool find :D i stayed in New Mexico for a month this summer. loved it. wish i could move there. awsome altitude in alb. i was there for a month but still cannot spell it...

i stayed right down the street from Alb. Acadamy. insainly nice school...
anyone on here attend?

sry to interupt- good luck

academy is the insanely expensive private school, haha.

But back on topic, Academy might be having a few rocky races, but their potential is there, as is Page's. It should be an interesting meet.

[rippev]

eldorado girls won the AA meet with 20 points!! they went 1,2,4,6,7 in a very VERY strong field including Gallup, La Cueva, Los Alamos, and Albq. Academy!

matt tebo won the boys meet with a 15:37 i think. that's like 14 seconds of shadrack's course record i think

[run_distance]

Where will the Cibola NM XC meet be held tomorrow?
Anyone know where the course is?
Thanks!

[eagle08]

Yeah, Eldorado girls did amazing. 20 points with competition like that. The only two that penetrated their pack and prevented a perfect score were Jordan Brown from Gallup and Lyndsay Harper from Academy. Here's some official results for anyone interested.

Girls

1. Julie Brasher Eldorado 19:56.91
2. Erin Madden Eldorado 20:07.04
3. Jordan Brown Gallup 20:07.33
4. Rachel Velarde Eldorado 20:11.96
5. Lyndsay Harper Academy 20:29.26
6. Laynee Valverde Eldorado 20:41.18
7. Allison Bedonie Eldorado 20:46.13
8. Analisa Sandoval Los Alamos 21:00.64
9. Megan Stockton Los Alamos 21:06.36
10. Tarra Brown Gallup 21:13.32?? (typo in the paper, said 21:03.32, so the last two might be mixed up or something of the type.)

1. Eldorado 20
2. Gallup 73
3. Los Alamos 73
4. Academy 77
5. Pojoaque 133

Boys

1. Matt Tebo Eldorado 15:37.45
2. Ben Johnson Academy 16:03.52
3. Ryan McNiff Los Alamos 16:24.89
4. Dustin Martin Academy 16:29.56
5. Simon Gilna Los Alamos 16:38.75
6. Nathan Romero Los Alamos 16:57.98
7. Matt Everett La Cueva 16:59.88
8. Taylor Roholt Sandia Prep 17:00.67
9. Kyle Cooper Academy 17:04.39
10. Chris DeRego La Cueva 17:06.69

1. Academy 39
2. La Cueva 88
3. Los Alamos 100
4. Gallup 119
5. Eldorado 126

Yeah, Matt Tebo did amazingly well on the boys side. He'll be shooting for Shadrack's record at City, to be sure. Academy took their pedestal in New Mexico back in this meet, though I'm sure they aren't running to their full potential yet.

[underdog]

32 teams at gallup

academy 50
page 53

[watchout]

32 teams at gallup

academy 50
page 53

woot! good job AA.

[rippev]

32 teams at gallup

academy 50
page 53

woohoo! results?

[eagle08]

yay for academy!

[underdog]

3- cibola 114
4- gallup 137
5- rio rancho 144
6- los alamos 204

johnson 2nd, martin 3rd, roybal - cib steps up to 7th, academy 6 in top 20

girls st. mikes over gallup, academy, page, los alamos in that order

ossala, amer, ortiz

[rippev]

wow what happened to rio rancho? were ranked 2nd in the state! did they run everyone?

[rippev]

PS good call on AA over Page, watchout.

[watchout]

PS good call on AA over Page, watchout.

thanks rippev! Almost got their 1-5 spread right, too ;)

[rippev]

any predictions for city?!

[mountainman]

Academy boys and Eldorado girls by miles. Matt Tebo by lots in the boys. Only close race is in the girls individual race between Ortiz and Brasher.

[rippev]

Academy boys and Eldorado girls by miles. Matt Tebo by lots in the boys. Only close race is in the girls individual race between Ortiz and Brasher.

i think ortiz will win by 15+ seconds probly..

[mountainman]

i think ortiz will win by 15+ seconds probly..

I stand corrected. Great course records by Ortiz and Tebo today.

[eagle08]

more results from city anyone? i admit, the rain kind of threw me off i didn't even get a chance to look at the results... :)

[rippev]

tebo tied the CR with shadrack. was that really the record by vanessa? la cueva beat highland in boys for 2nd place. eldorado girls won. any questions in particular?

[underdog]

Matt Tebo of Eldorado tied the Academy championships course record (15:21) held by Shadrack Kiptoo, La Cueva (2003).



Team Scores:

Academy 48
La Cueva 76
Highland 81
Eldorado 102
Sandia 123
Cibola 143
Manzano 163
West Mesa 183
Albuquerque 254
St. Pius X 276
Valley 309
Del Norte 354
Rio Grande no score


Individual Results:

Matt Tebo Eldorado 15:21 course record
Ben Johnson Academy 15:49
Nick Arguellas Highland 16:11
Mat Everett La Cueva 16:13
Dustin Martin Academy 16:25
Kevin McNalley Eldorado 16:32
Jeff Dallman La Cueva 16:36
Kyle Cooper Academy 16:36
Steve Duran Manzano 16:38
Matt Jones Manzano 16:38
Drew Rasmussen Cibola 16:40
Chris DeRego La Cueva 16:41
Calvin Armerding Academy 16:44
Fredrico Crosby West Mesa 16:46
Sam Mellon Highland 16:54
Isaac Phillups Highland 16:56
Todd Nickerson Sandia 16:56
Bryce Palmer Eldorado 16:57
Corey Kalm Sandia 16:57
Erik Hauswald Academy 16:57
Josh Dominguez West Mesa 16:58
Brandon Coriz Highland 16:59
Mikal Davis Sandia 17:04
Anthony Roybal Cibola 17:09
Carltson Salt Highland 17:11


Girls:

Senior Vanessa Ortiz of Cibola broke the course record set in 2003 by Kristen Hemphill of Los Alamos.



Team Scores:

Eldorado 55
Academy 65
Sandia 126
Highland 127
St. Pius 147
La Cueva 157
Del Norte 164
Albuquerque 168
Cibola 198
Valley 227
Manzano 273
West Mesa 347
Rio Grande no score


Individual Results:

Vanessa Ortiz Cibola 18:34
Julie Brasher Eldorado 19:07
Kelly McCabe Highland 19:25
Erin Madden Eldorado 19:28
Katie Wiederholt Del Norte 19:29
Carolyn Ehn Albuquerque 19:36
Callie Osborn Sandia 19:42
Lyndsay Harper Academy 19:46
Amanda Throckmorton Academy 19:47
Elba Halguin Valley 19:48

[eagle08]

awesome, thanks. :)

[rippev]

eagle check your PM's

[rippev]

does anybody know what the qualifying times for state in track will be?

[watchout]

does anybody know what the qualifying times for state in track will be?

fast? :)

[wizard05]

I would image they will be very similar to what they were last year, the new state quilifing times will be given to the coach's during the winter coaching clinic sometime in January. Although some who help set the standards would know before hand, who they are I don't know.

[underdog]

does anybody know what the qualifying times for state in track will be?

A group of coaches and the NMAA are going to work on them in a couple of weeks. They will be out in January.

[rippev]

thanks! i don't see them being much faster than last year. maybe a little faster in the 3200 like maybe 10:08 or so?

[eagle08]

does anyone have last years times...or remember last years time...for girls preferably.... :D

[rippev]

lol you shouldn't have to worry about that :p i'm PRETTY sure last years were 12:06 and 5:35 i think?