SI Vault

[Joe Lanzalotto]

Rooting around in the SI vault, I came across this one which I am sure those of us who have seen his "knobby knees" will appreciate:

http://vault.sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1092445/index.htm

[hilltopper15]

fantastic article. its hard to believe all of that was printed in SI considering nowadays, running gets practically no ink

[Joe Lanzalotto]

That is really the truth. Jim has trouble getting full articles in a newspaper, nevermind a national weekly magazine.

Go to the elite board and check the links I put out there in the SI Pre Issue thread. Fantastic old articles from SI on track. Hard to believe.

[hilltopper15]

That is really the truth. Jim has trouble getting full articles in a newspaper, nevermind a national weekly magazine.

Go to the elite board and check the links I put out there in the SI Pre Issue thread. Fantastic old articles from SI on track. Hard to believe.

yeah i just saw that and read the pre article in the one with him on the cover. i will get around to the others too sometime. Thanks for the links!

[Blackbeard]

Rooting around in the SI vault, I came across this one which I am sure those of us who have seen his "knobby knees" will appreciate:

http://vault.sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1092445/index.htm

wow!! Pretty cool! I liked the part about predictions...ingenious!!!

[Joe Lanzalotto]

When you met him at NIN, did you suspect he had knobby knees?

[Blackbeard]

When you met him at NIN, did you suspect he had knobby knees?

haahah, knobby knees...no- I didn’t expect that- but I DID expect him to be 8 feet tall with legs like great sequoias.

[lmb]

I remember that article when it came out, with a great photo of KB running. Two years before, in Track and Field News, there was one of the greatest photos ever, Marty Lud outleaning KB at Milrose. I think those magazines are still somewhere in ny Dad's attic, I stashed them and other memorabilia there when I went into the Army 25 years ago.

[Joe Lanzalotto]

I still swear that race was at worst a dead heat...but I thought Kevin won.:)

[Reuben Frank]

I remember that article when it came out, with a great photo of KB running. Two years before, in Track and Field News, there was one of the greatest photos ever, Marty Lud outleaning KB at Milrose. I think those magazines are still somewhere in ny Dad's attic, I stashed them and other memorabilia there when I went into the Army 25 years ago.

greatest race i ever saw

tremendous photo too -- has appeared in the millrose program off and on over the years. i think joe lanz scanned it and posted it here at one point?

at millrose, i asked kevin about that race, and a bunch of people gathered around and it got real quiet, and he said something like, "You know, I don't really remember much about it. The race started at 6:20, I was in lane 2, it was 72 degrees, and we were out in 31.3 ...." and then proceeded to regale us with an incredibly detailed, colorful tale of the day. even though we knew how it finished, we all stood there transfixed. i felt honored to be there at MSG that night 30 years ago with my teammates from teaneck rooting for kevin and honored to be there again last month watching the race with him

[njrunz]

Kevin transferred to Paramus because, he says, "There was a lack of communication between me and the coach. I was a 15-year-old kid thrown into stardom and there was nobody to talk to. I had met Coach Glynn at meets and I could talk to him. Besides, there are girls at Paramus."
Athletic Advantage! ;) And I wish he transferred to Paramus. There is a difference.

[Joe Lanzalotto]

Athletic Advantage! ;) And I wish he transferred to Paramus. There is a difference.

Yeah but we had Mike Glynn...Paramus "just" had Lou Lanzalotto!:D

[dcsonic17]

"But 17-year-old, redheaded Kevin Byrne..."

Thats all I needed to read to know that he truly should be considered a legend. It's all about the (red) hair.:D

My last 1st track meet ever tomorrow...eeeek.

[Paul Schwartz]

"But 17-year-old, redheaded Kevin Byrne..."
:D

Wasn't there another pretty good kid from Bergen that year?
:D :D

[Reuben Frank]

"But 17-year-old, redheaded Kevin Byrne..."
:D

Wasn't there another pretty good kid from Bergen that year?
:D :D

thanks, paul! :rolleyes:

[ILOVEBERGENRUNNING]

Very cool article

[lmb]

"But 17-year-old, redheaded Kevin Byrne..."
:D

Wasn't there another pretty good kid from Bergen that year?
:D :D

I thought he meant Roger Jones; isn't Ramsey in Bergen County.

[Joe Lanzalotto]

Kevin and Roger (yes, Bergen County) both MAJOR talents in school at the same time a relatively few miles apart. The race everyone wanted to see, waiting all year for, happens at Golden West, so Roger's coach, Lou Molino, Mike Glynn, PJ Mastro (a 53.46 400H PC guy who had the 5th fastest time in the country that year) and maybe one other guy were the only ones from BC who actually saw the race.

Roger's best:

1:50.3 9th performer nationally that year
1:52.2
4:08.1y 6th performance of the year
4:09.5y

Kevin:
1:52.03m 1976
3:48.0 1500m
4:04.1 anchor on the Penn DMR)
4:08.0y (indoors - 11 lap track)
4:08.0y (indoors - 11 lap track)
4:09.3y
4:12.5y
8:59.7y indoors
9:11.3y (1976)
+ XC

I recall both of them running a fair number of sub-50 legs on 4 x 4s.

[Kevin M. Byrne Sr.]

"But 17-year-old, redheaded Kevin Byrne..."

Thats all I needed to read to know that he truly should be considered a legend. It's all about the (red) hair.:D

My last 1st track meet ever tomorrow...eeeek.

So... how did you do today?

[Kevin M. Byrne Sr.]

[QUOTE=Joe Lanzalotto;2433411]Rooting around in the SI vault, I came across this one which I am sure those of us who have seen his "knobby knees" will appreciate:

http://vault.sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1092445/index.htm[/QUO

Sorry, late to respond:

Obviously very cool to be interviewed by SI, and they show up at Penn to watch me race, with photographers and all, pretty intimidating. So I run well in the DMR friday night, and they call my hotel room to ask me to dinner at Bookbinders in Philly for an interview. Glynn tells me to say I can't, because i'm having dinner with my teammates (he's got me in a headlock so i had to say it). They say bring your teammates and coaches. We go to Bookbinders and there are 16-20 of us, and i can still see my three coaches wearing the lobster bibs, with the you know what type of grin on their faces. Steak and Lobster, Cigars. Very big tab.

[Kevin M. Byrne Sr.]

1975 Millrose Mile photos by herr:

http://wsm.ezsitedesigner.com/share/scrapbook/43/439128/MM_1975--Ludwikowski,_Bryne_etc.jpg

http://wsm.ezsitedesigner.com/share/scrapbook/43/439128/MM_1975--Ludwikowski___Bryne.jp.jpg

http://wsm.ezsitedesigner.com/share/scrapbook/43/439128/MM_1975-Finish.jpg

JW

While I will give Marty kudos for the win (and congrats on his recent SJ HOF Induction-well deserved) I would very much like to see a side photo of the race, as they gave me a time that was one tenth slower than Marty, and I think even Marty would tell you it was closer than that! :) When I dove at the finish, I scraped all the skin off my knees. I was helped to my feet by a guy named Greg Rice, who was the father of one of my teammates, and a former world record holder at two miles. He told me to go take a victory lap. I was sure I had won. On the backstretch, I was called over to a box on the rail, by none other than Telly Savalas of Kojak fame! He tells me " Nice race baby, and he's got the tootsie pop in his mouth." Unbelieveable.

[greyhound 65]

Kevin
Great story and my seats were very good for Milrose . I thought you won and still do. Good to see you last week and meet your son. Dave Faherty said hello. I had the SI issues but moved and lost them some how. :)

[giacobbe]

Great story I love hearing about NJ running during the 70's. Glynn hasn't changed a bit since that article haha.

[Joe Lanzalotto]

[quote=Joe Lanzalotto;2433411]Rooting around in the SI vault, I came across this one which I am sure those of us who have seen his "knobby knees" will appreciate:

http://vault.sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1092445/index.htm[/QUO

Sorry, late to respond:

Obviously very cool to be interviewed by SI, and they show up at Penn to watch me race, with photographers and all, pretty intimidating. So I run well in the DMR friday night, and they call my hotel room to ask me to dinner at Bookbinders in Philly for an interview. Glynn tells me to say I can't, because i'm having dinner with my teammates (he's got me in a headlock so i had to say it). They say bring your teammates and coaches. We go to Bookbinders and there are 16-20 of us, and i can still see my three coaches wearing the lobster bibs, with the you know what type of grin on their faces. Steak and Lobster, Cigars. Very big tab.

Why would it matter that he had you in a headlock? You were WAY stronger than he was!:D

My freshman year, he was feeling strong. Only freshmen and sophs in the school as it had just opened in 1975. The sophs are taunting him to run with them during XC practice. It was his first year out of Iona where he was a very good half miler (he's in their hall of fame). He goes out and runs a ahrd one with them and comes back just PUKING his brains out, green as hell. No way you could laugh but no way you couldn't. Never ran with them again.

Great memories, some of which I can actually tell on here!:)

[Joe Lanzalotto]

Let's be honest here. In a PC singlet, you win; in a Bergen Catholic singlet, no one picks you for the win. It's just the way it is!:D

[Reuben Frank]

none other than Telly Savalas of Kojak fame!

the balded headed guy dead center of your chest.

hmmm .... i wonder ... :D

[Kevin M. Byrne Sr.]

http://wsm.ezsitedesigner.com/share/scrapbook/43/439128/MM_1975-Finish.jpg



Looking at this photo, there is an illusion that you have hit the tape first, but the is because of the balded headed guy dead center of your chest.

Of course, the .1 difference is not unusal in near dead heats with hand timing. But, I'm sure I didn't have to tell you.

JW

Actually, it was not an illusion. I did get the tape, or string, and obviously mentioned that when the results were announced. They of course tell me the tape is just used as a finish marker, and may not be at the exact spot where the finish is. There is a picture a couple of frames later than JW's with the tape around my chest as I fall.

[Shep]

When talking about transferring from BC to PC: "... Besides, there are girls at Paramus."

Classic

[lmb]

If Kevin Bryne stayed at BC, and Hugh Monahan went there also, they would have had those two as seniors, plus Bill Leonard, John Malone, Vin Deuschel, and Quentin Franklin as juniors-who as seniors the next year won the MOC. Plus, Leonard and Malone ran about 3:51 for the 1500-they could have put together some killer relays, with or without girls!!

[Reuben Frank]

If Kevin Bryne stayed at BC, and Hugh Monahan went there also, they would have had those two as seniors, plus Bill Leonard, John Malone, Vin Deuschel, and Quentin Franklin as juniors-who as seniors the next year won the MOC. Plus, Leonard and Malone ran about 3:51 for the 1500-they could have put together some killer relays, with or without girls!!

if he came to teaneck, we would have had one good runner!

[Paul Schwartz]

Rich stuckey's not going to like that!!!!!:D

[Joe Lanzalotto]

If Kevin Bryne stayed at BC, and Hugh Monahan went there also, they would have had those two as seniors, plus Bill Leonard, John Malone, Vin Deuschel, and Quentin Franklin as juniors-who as seniors the next year won the MOC. Plus, Leonard and Malone ran about 3:51 for the 1500-they could have put together some killer relays, with or without girls!!


Was Hugh considering going there?

BC was pretty darned good around those years anyway. Ran 7:46.7 for third place at Penn in the 4 x 800 in 1977.

[Reuben Frank]

Rich stuckey's not going to like that!!!!!:D

wasn't rich gone by then? graduated in 1974 maybe? i thought he was a year ahead of my brother

who knows

it's all a blur to me

everything before easterns this year is a blur to me

[backintheday]

wasn't rich gone by then? graduated in 1974 maybe? i thought he was a year ahead of my brother

who knows

it's all a blur to me

everything before easterns this year is a blur to me

Stuckey (sp ?) was '74

[Joe Lanzalotto]

I think it is spelled "Stukey". 4:18.7y and 9:26.0y in 1974 his senior year.

[Newell138]

My brother was at Morris Catholic at the time, so I saw Kevin run many times in XC as well as Bobby Siehl and Marty Ludokowski. Reading the SI story, they mention Vinny Mutarelli from the Mount winning the Penn DMR. I ran with Vinny at Rutgers on the 2 mile relay my sophomore year a few times.

[Reuben Frank]

Stuckey (sp ?) was '74

it struck me last night that talking about a guy from 1974 would be like current HS sophomores hearing about a guy from ... 1940

:eek:

[backintheday]

it struck me last night that talking about a guy from 1974 would be like current HS sophomores hearing about a guy from ... 1940

:eek:

Thank you for pointing that out ! :eek: