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james westfall
06-12-2008, 08:51 AM
He seems like a really cool guy. I find it very awesome that he is elite, but his whole life isn't running. He can manage literature (he reads some pretty complex stuff) music, running, traveling, and art all at the same time. I kinda want him to make the olympics.

Track Dude
06-12-2008, 11:18 AM
Yes, Gabe is quite the world traveler.
Don't think he'll be traveling to Beijing this summer though.
I love his Wikipedia entry . . .

"During 2003, after a poor 2002 season in which he failed to live up to the expectations generated by his previous success, Gabe decided to take a bike trip to Brazil. Along the way, he was mugged, robbed, attacked by monkeys, and infected with a near-fatal strain of hepatitis."

:eek:

wineturtle
06-12-2008, 11:30 AM
I agree-Put me in as a Gabe Fan Club member

http://www.trackandfieldnews.com/assets/temp/gabe_intro.jpg
read Sieg Lindstrums article:
http://www.trackandfieldnews.com/general/features/2003/jennings_gabe_intro.html

Marrow2000
06-12-2008, 01:06 PM
He seems like a really cool guy. I find it very awesome that he is elite, but his whole life isn't running. He can manage literature (he reads some pretty complex stuff) music, running, traveling, and art all at the same time. I kinda want him to make the olympics.

I love his world-explorer attitude, I think that's awesome. But I don't think he is as focused as running as most people heading into the Olympics.

PiCoXC
06-12-2008, 01:11 PM
http://track.flocasts.org/videos/speaker/36-gabe-jennings/11336-the-day-after-and-the-growl

abap
06-12-2008, 01:32 PM
I love his world-explorer attitude, I think that's awesome. But I don't think he is as focused as running as most people heading into the Olympics.

I think he's just as focused, but not as obsessed. If that makes any sense...

He knows his goal, and he knows what it will take to do it, but he won't let his goal consume him in a negative way (which usually leads to cracking under pressure). He is going into the trials with a passion for the sport and not the salary. I think this will give him the edge on race day... along with his growl.

Track Fan
06-12-2008, 04:54 PM
I think he's just as focused, but not as obsessed. If that makes any sense...

He knows his goal, and he knows what it will take to do it, but he won't let his goal consume him in a negative way (which usually leads to cracking under pressure). He is going into the trials with a passion for the sport and not the salary. I think this will give him the edge on race day... along with his growl.

Jennings doesn't have a chance at the making the team, no way! 3:40 tops for him

PureBallerness
06-12-2008, 05:32 PM
People seem to be hopping back on his boat after the article he had in Joggersworld. But its cool cuz he deserves the fanbase.

Pip
06-12-2008, 05:44 PM
I do not like him.

Marrow2000
06-12-2008, 11:25 PM
I think he's just as focused, but not as obsessed. If that makes any sense...

He knows his goal, and he knows what it will take to do it, but he won't let his goal consume him in a negative way (which usually leads to cracking under pressure). He is going into the trials with a passion for the sport and not the salary. I think this will give him the edge on race day... along with his growl.

I completely disagree. I think he doesn't have the focus. He may know what result he wants, but I think we all know that result requires ultimate commitment, something that it doesn't look like he's giving.

james westfall
06-13-2008, 09:13 AM
People seem to be hopping back on his boat after the article he had in Joggersworld. But its cool cuz he deserves the fanbase.

no, i've always been a fan, but for a while there he kinda fell off the face of the running earth.

NSHSDad
06-13-2008, 10:59 AM
What happened to him? He looked very strong before the olympics, then seemed to really fade. I recall seeing him at Penn the year after the olympics. He was running the anchor of a DMR for Stanford, and looked very tight. Other runners looked a lot stronger.

Around that point is when he seemed to disappear.

james westfall
06-13-2008, 11:07 AM
What happened to him? He looked very strong before the olympics, then seemed to really fade. I recall seeing him at Penn the year after the olympics. He was running the anchor of a DMR for Stanford, and looked very tight. Other runners looked a lot stronger.

Around that point is when he seemed to disappear.

read the article in joggersworld, it explains a lot of it, also just google his name i'm sure there's some info.

UWGB Phoenix Runner
06-13-2008, 11:32 AM
When at Stanford he pocketed his housing scholarship and live in a tent in the woods for a semester or so, he's pretty much my idol.

bdaniels
06-13-2008, 11:37 AM
http://graphics.jsonline.com/graphics/sports/gen/img/jun03/gabe617.jpg

bd

Zat0pek
06-13-2008, 11:55 AM
Yes, Gabe is quite the world traveler.
Don't think he'll be traveling to Beijing this summer though.
I love his Wikipedia entry . . .

"During 2003, after a poor 2002 season in which he failed to live up to the expectations generated by his previous success, Gabe decided to take a bike trip to Brazil. Along the way, he was mugged, robbed, attacked by monkeys, and infected with a near-fatal strain of hepatitis."

:eek:

While Gabe's an interesting guy, I no longer count myself as a fan of Gabe the runner.

This trip, on the surface, sounds like this great post-collegiate adventure. But upon closer examination, Gabe was wildly unprepared for that trip almost to the point of irresponsibility and it cost him dearly. He's never even approached his previous level of performance since that trip and contracting hepatitis. He admitted to struggling with some pretty serious mental health issues for a while (depression or bipolar, can't remember which) which fortunately seem to have been resolved.

I'm just glad for him that his health, both mental and physical, seems to have returned and that he seems to be enjoying running again. But, IMHO, it is foolish to talk about him making the team. I think that ship has sailed.

PureBallerness
06-13-2008, 12:07 PM
While Gabe's an interesting guy, I no longer count myself as a fan of Gabe the runner.

This trip, on the surface, sounds like this great post-collegiate adventure. But upon closer examination, Gabe was wildly unprepared for that trip almost to the point of irresponsibility and it cost him dearly. He's never even approached his previous level of performance since that trip and contracting hepatitis. He admitted to struggling with some pretty serious mental health issues for a while (depression or bipolar, can't remember which) which fortunately seem to have been resolved.

I'm just glad for him that his health, both mental and physical, seems to have returned and that he seems to be enjoying running again. But, IMHO, it is foolish to talk about him making the team. I think that ship has sailed.

Dude if webb has a chance so does Gabe.

NSHSDad
06-13-2008, 12:09 PM
"joggersworld" - I didn't realize you were making a joke on runnersworld (I don't read it because...well, I guess the joke explains it) and spent about 10 minutes trying to find something by that name on google.

It sounds like he's getting in good shape, but I'll be surprised if he can challenge guys like Webb, Lanzano and Lagat. It would be great to see, though.

Scotty
06-13-2008, 12:20 PM
Dude if webb has a chance so does Gabe.

The fact is that Gabe Jennings has not been a great runner for many years. His 3:35pt PR is 7 YEARS OLD. He has been a 3:42 or 3:59 guy for a long time now. He never had even a glimmer of hope to be an Olympian in 2008.

Certainly was an excellent runner back in 2000/2001.

Marrow2000
06-13-2008, 12:22 PM
Dude if webb has a chance so does Gabe.

Webb and Gabe are not on the same level, not even close. I don't think Gabe could even handily win a HS two-mile against Puskedra, Fernandez, Finnerty, etc. much less qualify for the Olympics.

Like others have said, I think that ship has sailed.

Zat0pek
06-13-2008, 12:24 PM
Dude if webb has a chance so does Gabe.

Ummmm...no.

Webb was ranked sixth in the world last year, set the American Record in the mile, had the fastest times on the planet last year at 1500 and the mile and second-fastest time on the planet at 800. Webb has been a finalist in the last two World Championships.

Jennings has consistently been about ten seconds behind Webb not just for a season, but for years. I'm pretty sure he hasn't even made a national team since he won the Oly Trials eight years ago. For the last several years, Jennings would have struggled to qualify for the NCAA Nationals. Jennings isn't even in Webb's ballpark, and hasn't been for more than half a decade. To be blunt, Jennings is bordering on a sideshow at this point in his career. A very, very good runner (anyone who gets under 4:00 is) and an interestng character but not even close to being international class, let alone world class or elite world class like Lagat and Webb.

Track Dude
06-13-2008, 12:32 PM
To be blunt, Jennings is bordering on a sideshow at this point in his career. A very, very good runner (anyone who gets under 4:00 is) but not even close to being international class, let alone world class or elite world class like Lagat and Webb.

Like others have said, I think that ship has sailed.

QFE.

PureBallerness
06-13-2008, 02:31 PM
Ummmm...no.

Webb was ranked sixth in the world last year, set the American Record in the mile, had the fastest times on the planet last year at 1500 and the mile and second-fastest time on the planet at 800. Webb has been a finalist in the last two World Championships.

Jennings has consistently been about ten seconds behind Webb not just for a season, but for years. I'm pretty sure he hasn't even made a national team since he won the Oly Trials eight years ago. For the last several years, Jennings would have struggled to qualify for the NCAA Nationals. Jennings isn't even in Webb's ballpark, and hasn't been for more than half a decade. To be blunt, Jennings is bordering on a sideshow at this point in his career. A very, very good runner (anyone who gets under 4:00 is) and an interestng character but not even close to being international class, let alone world class or elite world class like Lagat and Webb.

Webb at Pre Classic -
7 Alan Webb USA 3:55.47 3:40.42

Gabe at Pre Classic development -
1 Gabe Jennings 3:40.58

Also note Webb had plenty of competition and Gabe won his race by 2 sec. But then again Webb had 100m of race left, but still that is a decent equiv.
I know that Webb is better, but looking at last weekend's Pre Classic I can't see how people are knocking Gabe completely out of chance.

Equinox2100
06-13-2008, 02:35 PM
Webb at Pre Classic -
7 Alan Webb USA 3:55.47 3:40.42

Gabe at Pre Classic development -
1 Gabe Jennings 3:40.58

Also note Webb had plenty of competition and Gabe won his race by 2 sec. But then again Webb had 100m of race left, but still that is a decent equiv.
I know that Webb is better, but looking at last weekend's Pre Classic I can't see how people are knocking Gabe completely out of chance.

On July 6th & 6 pm ill call you

Zat0pek
06-13-2008, 02:55 PM
Webb at Pre Classic -
7 Alan Webb USA 3:55.47 3:40.42

Gabe at Pre Classic development -
1 Gabe Jennings 3:40.58

Also note Webb had plenty of competition and Gabe won his race by 2 sec. But then again Webb had 100m of race left, but still that is a decent equiv.
I know that Webb is better, but looking at last weekend's Pre Classic I can't see how people are knocking Gabe completely out of chance.

That's not how it works. First of all, the equivalent on Webb's mile is about 3:38, still two seconds faster than Gabe and it was Webb's opener.

Jennings has to peak to even make the finals of the Trials, let alone the team. Webb raced for the first time this year on June 6 and is only now starting to round in to racing form. Jennings is approaching his peak, Webb just paced his opener and Webb is still two seconds faster. And that time is about where Jennings has been stuck for years.

Remember that last year Webb went from 3:51 to 3:46 in a matter of weeks after already racing more than he has this year. He also went from 1:45-high to 1:43.9 in the span of just a few of weeks.

Once Webb enters his season, he drops pretty quickly. I wouldn't be surprised at all to see him in 3:33/3:50 shape by the Trials. The Trials 1500 final is almost exactly a month after Pre, which is plenty of time for him to be sharper and more race ready. At this time of year, a month and a couple of races can make a huge difference for someone like Webb.

He's running an 800 this weekend. Given where he's at, I'd expect something 1:47-ish. 1:46 would be very solid for him at this point on the calendar. Save the 1:43 for August.

XC pwns
06-13-2008, 03:04 PM
I like how a thread about Jennings turns into a thread about Webb.

Zat0pek
06-13-2008, 03:29 PM
I like how a thread about Jennings turns into a thread about Webb.

Given enough time, almost any thread can/does become a Webb thread.

PureBallerness
06-13-2008, 03:39 PM
That's not how it works. First of all, the equivalent on Webb's mile is about 3:38, still two seconds faster than Gabe and it was Webb's opener.

Jennings has to peak to even make the finals of the Trials, let alone the team. Webb raced for the first time this year on June 6 and is only now starting to round in to racing form. Jennings is approaching his peak, Webb just paced his opener and Webb is still two seconds faster. And that time is about where Jennings has been stuck for years.

Remember that last year Webb went from 3:51 to 3:46 in a matter of weeks after already racing more than he has this year. He also went from 1:45-high to 1:43.9 in the span of just a few of weeks.

Once Webb enters his season, he drops pretty quickly. I wouldn't be surprised at all to see him in 3:33/3:50 shape by the Trials. The Trials 1500 final is almost exactly a month after Pre, which is plenty of time for him to be sharper and more race ready. At this time of year, a month and a couple of races can make a huge difference for someone like Webb.

He's running an 800 this weekend. Given where he's at, I'd expect something 1:47-ish. 1:46 would be very solid for him at this point on the calendar. Save the 1:43 for August.

On July 6th & 6 pm ill call you

It doesn't matter, cause Teg needs to run the 10k.

bdaniels
06-13-2008, 03:56 PM
It doesn't matter, cause Teg needs to run the 10k.

The what???

:confused:

bd

Junker23
06-13-2008, 03:57 PM
http://graphics.jsonline.com/graphics/sports/gen/img/jun03/gabe617.jpg

bd

QFE.

skeefe
06-13-2008, 04:27 PM
When at Stanford he pocketed his housing scholarship and live in a tent in the woods for a semester or so, he's pretty much my idol.

You are allowed to do that? Sick.

I generally think he is a pretty cool dude and hope he does well. I like how he isn't consumed by running but at the same time you have to be at this level to succeed.

wineturtle
06-13-2008, 04:52 PM
That's not how it works. First of all, the equivalent on Webb's mile is about 3:38, still two seconds faster than Gabe and it was Webb's opener.

Jennings has to peak to even make the finals of the Trials, let alone the team. Webb raced for the first time this year on June 6 and is only now starting to round in to racing form. Jennings is approaching his peak, Webb just paced his opener and Webb is still two seconds faster. And that time is about where Jennings has been stuck for years.

Remember that last year Webb went from 3:51 to 3:46 in a matter of weeks after already racing more than he has this year. He also went from 1:45-high to 1:43.9 in the span of just a few of weeks.

Once Webb enters his season, he drops pretty quickly. I wouldn't be surprised at all to see him in 3:33/3:50 shape by the Trials. The Trials 1500 final is almost exactly a month after Pre, which is plenty of time for him to be sharper and more race ready. At this time of year, a month and a couple of races can make a huge difference for someone like Webb.

He's running an 800 this weekend. Given where he's at, I'd expect something 1:47-ish. 1:46 would be very solid for him at this point on the calendar. Save the 1:43 for August.

All said and done I believe Gabe will be a trials finalist- and that is not a Little Feat .

Zat0pek
06-13-2008, 04:56 PM
All said and done I believe Gabe will be a trials finalist- and that is not a Little Feat .

I agree that there is a good chance that he will be a finalist.

Zat0pek
06-19-2008, 07:11 PM
I don't know whether to be shocked by this or not, but Gabe doesn't even know the rules to qualify for the Olympics.

He says in his RW interview that he has "until August 14" to get the Oly "A" standard. He doesn't. USATF changed it last year and you have to have the "A" by the end of your event at the Trials. Gabe spends considerable time explaining how his whole plan is to win the Trials then get standard.

So much for a Stanford education...

http://dailynews.runnersworld.com/2008/06/a-brief-chat-11.html

From the article:


Have you been disappointed that your last two races (at a qualifying race before the Prefontaine Classic he ran a 3.40.58) left you just short of the A standard?

Gabe Jennings: I think that if I win the Trials I'll get a spot in the Games. I have until August 14 to get the A standard. I'm taking it one step at a time - first make the team, then get the standard. And overall, I've been more encouraged than disappointed by my last few races. Yesterday, for instance, I ran 3.41.07 in a really stiff wind, which was a quite decent performance. My last few races have been basically time trials, and being able to run that fast in them is actually quite good. I'm going 3.40, 3.41, the equivalent of a 3:58 mile, which is not easy to do by yourself. At the pre-Pre I ran from 300 meters to 1500 all alone. Last weekend, Will Leer paced me, but the wind was really stiff, and there was no crowd for motivation. I think I'm where I need to be. My workouts have been beautiful. The momentum I've been generating the last three or four weeks has just been amazing.

wineturtle
06-19-2008, 07:33 PM
Zat I guess we have to send him a Bongo-gram. Rey Robinson might speak to him about doublechecking everything himself. It is the Olympic Trials after all.

Zat0pek
06-19-2008, 07:42 PM
Zat I guess we have to send him a Bongo-gram. Rey Robinson might speak to him about doublechecking everything himself. It is the Olympic Trials after all.

On one hand I feel really sorry for the guy. On the other hand...how in the hell can you not know the rules for making an Olympic team, especially someone for whom this is probably his last shot?

Interesting thought I just had...Gabe's only chance of making it is to place in the top three and run the "A". That means Gabe needs a pretty solid pace in the final. Interesting new twist in the many plotlines of the 1500.

Track Dude
06-19-2008, 10:58 PM
So much for a Stanford education...

:D :D :D

hijackthecar
06-19-2008, 11:11 PM
http://graphics.jsonline.com/graphics/sports/gen/img/jun03/gabe617.jpg

bd

14866

emceelaszlo
06-19-2008, 11:19 PM
knowing gabe personally, he is more focused than any of you could possibly imagine. Even his trip to south america was in a pursuit to better his running, this is what he functions one.

I wonder what ever happened to Seneca Lassiter?

hijackthecar
06-19-2008, 11:20 PM
knowing gabe personally, he is more focused than any of you could possibly imagine. Even his trip to south america was in a pursuit to better his running, this is what he functions one.

I wonder what ever happened to Seneca Lassiter?

i had to google him :(

jrun
06-19-2008, 11:44 PM
The winner of the Trials will hit the 'A' Standard, so if Gabe wins then he has nothing to worry about.

Chances of Gabe winning? You figure that one out...