Nccc

[stataz]

So how is everyone doing so far this season? Theres the Stafford Co-ed Relays today. Lets get this thread rolling

[CT_Runner]

It was more of a scrimmage than a meet but here's a few Ellington results:

J. Morgan 200m 23.3
B. Metzger 400m 51.4
K. Harty 800m 2:30
C. Kelleher 800m 2:10 (2 days after a 15 mile run)
E. Senger 800m 2:07
H. Norte 1600m 4:36
A Carlson 1600m 4:45
A. Sullivan 1600m 5:01 (freshman)

J. Morgan LJ 19'
S. Hrubala TJ 41'
E. Senger TJ 37'
K. Harty TJ 35'
D. Thompson SP 35'
K. Leyva JV 125'

Rigby ran a good looking 1600m split as did Wilson in his 800m. The EC girls Fish, Meyer, and Beharry also looked very strong. Haines isn't running this spring (injured).

I hope Mike and Whitney enjoyed their foray up into a "real" race distance!

[Cocca]

I hope Mike and Whitney enjoyed their foray up into a "real" race distance!
It was lovely, hoepfully I can do more!

[Papa Smurf]

Woo I can post.

Tolland looks solid this year.

[Cocca]

who are you papa smurf?

[Papa Smurf]

no one important.
I contribute my cheering and "positive" attitude to meets, seeing as ive lost 5 ft on my shot.

on the old forums i was "KidFromTolland"

Papa Smurf just sounded..awesome. :D
http://img180.exs.cx/img180/6210/papasmurf4jd.jpg

[nebrun3]

It was more of a scrimmage than a meet but here's a few Ellington results:

J. Morgan 200m 23.3
B. Metzger 400m 51.4
K. Harty 800m 2:30
C. Kelleher 800m 2:10 (2 days after a 15 mile run)
E. Senger 800m 2:07
H. Norte 1600m 4:36
A Carlson 1600m 4:45
A. Sullivan 1600m 5:01 (freshman)

J. Morgan LJ 19'
S. Hrubala TJ 41'
E. Senger TJ 37'
K. Harty TJ 35'
D. Thompson SP 35'
K. Leyva JV 125'

Rigby ran a good looking 1600m split as did Wilson in his 800m. The EC girls Fish, Meyer, and Beharry also looked very strong. Haines isn't running this spring (injured).

I hope Mike and Whitney enjoyed their foray up into a "real" race distance!

Did Rigby come in in between Hunter and Alec? Or what?

[CT_Runner]

Those are relay splits. We ran co-ed relays, no individual events. Rigby split pretty good though. He got the baton pretty far down to Carlson in the DMR. If he closed, I don't think it was by much. I didn't take his split, though.

[EagleThrower]

So whats up with the East Windsor team? Did they just get good over night or is Suffield not that great this year?

[nebrun3]

Those are relay splits. We ran co-ed relays, no individual events. Rigby split pretty good though. He got the baton pretty far down to Carlson in the DMR. If he closed, I don't think it was by much. I didn't take his split, though.

I see. Nice times to all. It's looking like it'll be a good season. How did both Hunter and Alec both have mile splits? Different races? Or different relay teams?

[shut_put_05]

Who does each team have for throwers this season? Are those two kids from Granby (Cardenas and Venn) back? Is Ed from Stafford still gonna kick my @$$ again this season? Or what about that Burnham kid from East Windsor, he had a good performance at the NCCC indoor meet, does he do outdoor? Does Ellington have any one to fill Cody's Shoes?

[CT_Runner]

I see. Nice times to all. It's looking like it'll be a good season. How did both Hunter and Alec both have mile splits? Different races? Or different relay teams?

Hunter was the anchor of the 4x1600 and Alec anchored the DMR.

[isleepwithjello]

So whats up with the East Windsor team? Did they just get good over night or is Suffield not that great this year?

are you talking about girls or guys??

[TCrock]

He's talking about the Guys EW team. We were debating this at practice over the past few days. I figure with Cocca out, EW who has been steadily getting better just flew by Suffield. I'm not saying that Suffield got terrible, I just think the loss of Cocca (which I still believe to be true, if not please correct) would be a blow to the perportion of Tolland losing Vitello.

[isleepwithjello]

yea Cocca is running the 800 tomorrow haha.

but the east windsor guys were faster than the guys we did have so that would be true

[TCrock]

Yeah I heard he was doing that, but not his other events, so in comparison, maybe a crippled Vitello.

Oh man, btw we have a huge amount of home meets this year, that rocks. With that Avon/Ellington/Tolland being moved maybe we got too many, oh well, anyone know exactly why that was moved? I wasn't really paying attention that well, something about Avon not being allowed to have meets on Tuesdays?

[TCrock]

seeing as ive lost 5 ft on my shot.


Of course you lost 5 ft. you go a whole month without throwing like most and you expect to be in tip top shape, happens all the time, I lost 5 ft. last year and ended up sittin' pretty.

[TCrock]

D. Thompson SP 35'
Year? For some reason I don't see Kyle on there. Are these just noteable performances?


3rd post in a row, time for me to get outta here me thinks.

[Cocca]

So whats up with the East Windsor team? Did they just get good over night or is Suffield not that great this year?

Didn't the guys team lose to EW last year though too? Either way, it's tough at the beginning of the season to get everyone at a point where you can maximize scoring.

[CT_Runner]

Miller's been sick. I only put Thompson up because last year his PR was in the 27' range. I think adding 8' to your put is pretty impressive.

[Papa Smurf]

Of course you lost 5 ft. you go a whole month without throwing like most and you expect to be in tip top shape, happens all the time, I lost 5 ft. last year and ended up sittin' pretty.

well yeah...today I managed a pretty ok 32' 7''....so Im getting back there slowly..

todays meet against Suffield was good. Anyone know the exact outcome? I know Tolland took Jav, Shot, and maybe 1+2 in disc...but I never heard much about the running? anyone wanna fill me in?

Dave Macklem in the 4v400...qualities terrible cause its a camera phone..but what can you expect?

http://img216.echo.cx/img216/3873/dmack2go.jpg

[isleepwithjello]

the guys was pretty close i think, girls definetely won though

[nebrun3]

Tolland guys won by 10 or so I think? Tolland girls won pretty easily.

[stataz]

I'm not saying that Suffield got terrible, I just think the loss of Cocca (which I still believe to be true, if not please correct) would be a blow to the perportion of Tolland losing Vitello.


How does that work? Cocca has the ability to win the 100, and 200 at conference, and to possibly anchor their 4x1 to a victory. That seems to me to be a much larger blow

[EagleThrower]

Who does each team have for throwers this season? Are those two kids from Granby (Cardenas and Venn) back? Is Ed from Stafford still gonna kick my @$$ again this season? Or what about that Burnham kid from East Windsor, he had a good performance at the NCCC indoor meet, does he do outdoor? Does Ellington have any one to fill Cody's Shoes?

So how is throwing this year for the NCCC teams?
Post some # maybe.

My PB's so far this year are:

35' 7" in sp
96' 10" in dt
131' 11" in jt

[Papa Smurf]

34' 9'' in Indoor. i hope i can get that back, and improve. be totally sweet if i got 36 by the end of outdoor.

How does that work? Cocca has the ability to win the 100, and 200 at conference, and to possibly anchor their 4x1 to a victory. That seems to me to be a much larger blow

well, its still a blow is it not? may be a size difference but hes right in it hurting Suffield.

[CT_Runner]

Granby's best in the shot today was 34-00.

Just for fun Norte won the 300H in 45.xx.

[shut_put_05]

today was a real nail biter between tolland and suffield. the point differential was only 10 pts, tolland getting the edge, but suffield put on one hell of a show. the wind was a huge factor in the meet due to the fact that it was blowing against the disc throwers and the runners on the 2nd straight away. people would have had much better performances today, it really affected the sprinters in the 100 and royally screwed us over in the disc. good meet none-the-less.

is it me or are alot of people getting frustrated w/ having sub-par performances so far this season?

[EaglesPVXC]

I've been quite disappointed with my proformences in my events so far this year not doing my PB's in the first to meets. My 3200 times which are of quality to begin with are just starting to come around but could be due to my lack of distance training. PV i dont understand though PB of 9'6" but only been jumping 9' and having been feeling confident about my jumps. I was hoping to qualify for states this year though.(10')

[stataz]

Hey Tolland kids, are you guys still coming on Saturday for the wiffleball??

[Papa Smurf]

oh its this saturday...Ill be on my way to NC....

[stataz]

thats alright, no problem, I wasnt asking you

[Papa Smurf]

i just got schooled.

[Cocca]

today was a real nail biter between tolland and suffield. the point differential was only 10 pts, tolland getting the edge, but suffield put on one hell of a show. the wind was a huge factor in the meet due to the fact that it was blowing against the disc throwers and the runners on the 2nd straight away. people would have had much better performances today, it really affected the sprinters in the 100 and royally screwed us over in the disc. good meet none-the-less.

is it me or are alot of people getting frustrated w/ having sub-par performances so far this season?
I psyched it was that close since we didnt have will hill nor me running.

[TCrock]

I don't know if or who is coming, you'll have to talk with vitello about that stataz. He's the ring leader. I don't think I was planning, but if they need someone else I'd fill in. But again you'd have to talk to him, I could hook you up with his email if you PM me, I'd have to ask permission from the klid first though.


EDIT: and why aren't you at practice right now? I'm not cause I was absent due to lack of health... o_0

[TCrock]

I psyched it was that close since we didnt have will hill nor me running.
I wonder where people got those numbers, I was talking to Jess, our score keeper, and she said the score was 95 to something w/o pole vault in yet... maybe she was talking about girls, or confusing the two...

[Papa Smurf]

we doubled them. 100something to 50something. the throwing/pole vault added around 35 points. but im not entirely sure, so ask someone important.

and about the wiffle ball
vitello has told me to tell you(stataz): they are not up for it this weekend, but they might be during the break(our spring break is next week). however, they are unsure as to when or where it would happen if it happens

[EagleThrower]

The final suffield tolland meet is tolland 104 suffield 46

[Cocca]

Yea what were you tollanders tlaking about, I looked in the paper and the score was wayy different.

[EaglesPVXC]

Well im just estimating but we got most of the field events(around 50pts ) and we got the 4x100 and 4x400(10) 1 2 in 400, 200 first in the 100? maybe (21 at least) split the 3200 (4) got some more from hurdles(guessing bout 7 pts) macklem won 8? (5 pts) thats 97 pts right there plus more i prolly missed so u see the score there.... paper must have been wrong?

[BlueTeamGo]

105-45, I beat R. Hill in the javelin and its not entered that way... so yeah the huge one point differential I know.

[Papa Smurf]

eh, nothings perfect.

[CT_Runner]

105-45, I beat R. Hill in the javelin and its not entered that way... so yeah the huge one point differential I know.

Were you one of the declared five varsity entries? If not you don't count in the scoring even if you do beat out any of the declared five.

[EaglesPVXC]

Were you one of the declared five varsity entries? If not you don't count in the scoring even if you do beat out any of the declared five.
Ya he is def a varsity JT

[nebrun3]

Sorry for the meet score, I was just relaying what I had been told. Some nice results in the paper today. Nicely done all.

[BlueTeamGo]

Yeah I was varsity. I think R. Hill threw 114' x", and i threw 115" x".

[Papa Smurf]

Alright so whos going where soon?

Tollands got Stafford next week on Tues if I am correct....anyone else?

[isleepwithjello]

suffield had avon today and ellington had enfield today.

next week we have enfield and granby on tuesday THEN WE LEAVE FOR PENNNN ON WEDNESDAY!! woooo

[Cocca]

suffield had avon today and ellington had enfield today.

next week we have enfield and granby on tuesday THEN WE LEAVE FOR PENNNN ON WEDNESDAY!! woooo
Is it next week or the week after next? I thought we didnt have any dula meets next week.

[isleepwithjello]

my bad cocca, we only have trinity next weekend 22-23

[CT_Runner]

Ellington had Enfield today, has W. Locks on Tuesday and then the Irv Black Invite next weekend.

Interesting results in the 1600m today.

1 Norte 4:47.xx
2 Senger 4:50.xx
3 Carlson 4:50.xx
4 Anselmo 4:55.xx

I wasn't sure Senger had it in him. Especially for his first 1600m ever.

[EagleThrower]

Yeah has any one qualified for states in throwin yet, if so please tell event and distance?

[nebrun3]

Ellington had Enfield today, has W. Locks on Tuesday and then the Irv Black Invite next weekend.

Interesting results in the 1600m today.

1 Norte 4:47.xx
2 Senger 4:50.xx
3 Carlson 4:50.xx
4 Anselmo 4:55.xx

I wasn't sure Senger had it in him. Especially for his first 1600m ever.

I'm impressed. He's a competitor, no question about that. What was Bryce's winning time in the 1600 the other meet, if you dont mind me asking?

[Cocca]

Hey yea fast time from that Enfield kid in the 100 at that meet too. How much did he win by?

[CT_Runner]

Morgan ran 11.84 FAT against Enfield.

Bryce's 1600m time wasn't that fast. Both 1600's this week were set up as sub-5:00 attempts for people so when Metzger, Norte', and Carlson ran those, they held through 1400m at 5:00 pace or just under before taking off. They went through 1200m in 3:47 on Tuesday and 3:42 on Thursday.

On a side note, does the 300m hurdles seem to be quite week thus far? I've only seen one time under 45 seconds in the paper. Some kid from Avon at 44.9.

Also, I haven't seen that miler from Avon name in any results yet.

Some very sad girls distance results. Winning times for the 3200m in the 16:00's from Enfield meet and Somers meet on Tuesday.

[stataz]

[QUOTE=CT_Runner]

On a side note, does the 300m hurdles seem to be quite week thus far? I've only seen one time under 45 seconds in the paper. Some kid from Avon at 44.9.

QUOTE]


Well from last years NCCC results, #1 Bradrick graduated, # 2 Alexander didn't come back, I dont know if the # 3 & 4 kids from Granby and Easy Granby are back, and the # 7 finisher is gone too. The best returners are Johnson from EW and Stewart from Enfield. The talent level in certain events seems to keep dropping

[Vit77]

As a 300m IH myself I must say I've noticed that too...but if I remember correctly from last year my personal times dropped drastically throughout the season. Its a pretty hard event to get used to and it just takes some time to develop the speed/stamina/hurdling coordination. Without everyone chasing Bradrick and the other top few I'd be willing to bet times won't be as fast though. I didnt know Alexander didnt return, same for Hrubala? I doubt Spencer would leave for his senior year though...

[stataz]

Spencer would do the 110H, the 300H would probably tire him out.

[CT_Runner]

We've toyed with the idea of Spencer running the IH, but he's a big guy to go that far. And if he runs it, what do you take him out of. He and Stewart had a great race on Friday with Hrubala getting him 16.23 to 16.26 (I think that was Stewart's time) FAT.

As far as getting the strength and coordination to do the IH well I agree. Norte' ran 45.xx the only time he's ever run it. Then again, he does have good speed to go with his endurance and he does run the steeplechase so maybe he has an advantage. I don't think anyone can reasonably expect to be a quality 300m IH unless you have at least 55 second flat 400m speed. If you can barely break 60 in the 400m you can't expect to hlod that pace with 8 hurdles to clear.

I've noticed that too many guys try to run the IH with their HH hurdle form. With only a 36" barrier, most guys can stand over the hurdle and wast too much energy (at the cost of speed) raising their centers of gravity and being too high over the hurdle. What more should try to do is develop really good hip strength and clear the hurdle by simply moving their center of gravity up just a bit and then using their hip muscles to move their legs out of the way.

I dunno I guess I don't see how a guy like Stewart can fly in the HH but not in the IH.

[nebrun3]

Bumpage, anyone else have meets tomorrow or at all this week?

[Hunta17]

weve got windsor locks tommorow and then trinity invite on friday and saturday

[TCrock]

Yeah Stafford, looks like it's going to be good, these vacation weeks are very interesting for some reason, and with report cards just coming out, some people won't be returning to the track (not saying who, not my place, just saying some aren't returning).


(Avatars? yeah for them being up.)

[Vit77]

what did stewart run in the 300IH against Ellington? and what numbers are the 2 East Windsor hurdlers putting up? I havent really kept up with the paper enough...

[Papa Smurf]

good luck to Tolland, have fun at the meet.

(papa smurf...)

[CT_Runner]

Just to drop a note, we did run Hrubala in the 300 IH today. He ran 45-mid for his first attempt at the race. Not too bad.

The whole team seemed a bit off due to it being the first warm day. Bodies will adjust and performances will come back in line.

[TCrock]

Yeah pretty solid showing for some of our guys. But with the amount of people gone on vaca this week both Stafford and Tolland looked like it had taken some blows.

I know we took throwing, pretty sure they took jumping and we took all the relays except 4x4.

Oh yeah had some pukers, freshman are so funny.

[Papa Smurf]

We had some pukers? sweet, lets you know either: a. youve given it your all or b. you are sick or c. you shouldnt have eaten that beef jerky before you ran. :D

[TCrock]

Thankyou Captain Obvious......

[CT_Runner]

The final performance lists are up for the Irv Black Invite.

Anyone else see some creative seeds?

[Papa Smurf]

Thankyou Captain

de nada

[nebrun3]

The final performance lists are up for the Irv Black Invite.

Anyone else see some creative seeds?

Link me.

[mcflyxc23]

http://www.mysportsresults.com/Admin/IrvBlackInvite/IB05-BoysFinalPerfList.htm

[Cocca]

Ha its nice to know that there are 8 guys uner 11 and 17 under 23 already this season :p

[nebrun3]

the 800 should be a tight race.

[Multees]

The whole team seemed a bit off due to it being the first warm day. Bodies will adjust and performances will come back in line.[/QUOTE]

You must have a distance team. The weather is just fine for the sprinters. In fact, we've been waiting for a week like this. (we could use another 10 degrees) If my body has to go "back in line", I don't think I want to be normal.

[TCrock]

...bump, and vacation week sucks for practice and meets...

[nebrun3]

Bright Idea:

We should form some sort of NCCC Elite Performance List, or at least a compilation of top marks in the NCCC's after each meet of the season. No? Yes?

[Cocca]

That would be sweet but tough, the only way it would work is that all the coaches report the results to one coach to compile all the results. Then on top of that you got the issues of F.A.T vs. ht. That would be sweet though.

[nebrun3]

Yeah but I think we could work it out some how. Alot of the times could come from the paper or kids getting times from their coaches and letting us know through Dyestat. It would just be fun to see where everyone is and how people are improving and such.

[CT_Runner]

That would be fun, but a lot of work. As far as FAT vs. HT, common practice is to add 0.24 to times with different start and finish lines and 0.14 to those that start and end on the same line. Of course that alos assumes a reliable person on the HT.

Congrats to all at the meet tonight. My boys did suprise a bit. 8:07-high (Norte' 2:01.1, Senger 2:03.2, Anselmo 2:02.9, Metzger 2:00.2). That puts all of them ahead of last year. ALso to the SHS boys winning thier heat.

[nebrun3]

Very impressive. Nice run, guys.

[CT_Runner]

Yeah but I think we could work it out some how. Alot of the times could come from the paper or kids getting times from their coaches and letting us know through Dyestat. It would just be fun to see where everyone is and how people are improving and such.

I was thinking about this a bit more and I'm not sure it would work. Some coaches like to keep their team's performances a bit of a secret from other teams for when they go against each other. It wouldn't seem fair to try to do this with only most of the teams putting their performances out for public viewing and a few holding back their information, but using evryone elses.

Just a thought, but like I said before, I think it would be neat.

[Papa Smurf]

secrets? bah this isnt professional football we're talking about

[Cocca]

secrets? bah this isnt professional football we're talking about
Hey but I bet coaches love to bring a kid to conference who nobody knows about and have them win an event that they didn't expect.

[nebrun3]

This is true, it was just a thought. I also think it would be neat but I understand the whole element of surprise concept.

[Vit77]

Yea I dont know about all the coaches secrets and stuff, but it sure seems like East Windsor is keeping quiet. We (Tolland) have them on Tuesday and I personally dont know what to expect, I know they have some sick hurdlers/high jumper...but they seem like that team thats going to sneak out of nowhere, maybe even at NCCC's

[CT_Runner]

I agree about EW. They could definately sneak up on people if you aren't careful. Having already beat a watered down (by injury) Suffield team, I don't think it would be a stretch to say they might have the thrid best boys team in the league. Although I think things are tight in the #3,4,5 slots right now. EW, Granby, Avon, and Suffield each have a few individuals and who wins those meets depends on the matchups. They may go one way in the dual meets and completely another way on May 24th.

No real news from the 2nd day of the Irv Black Invite. It was cancelled after the 1600m. Hrubala had a FS in the HH, Norte' won the SC. Nothing else too interesting. Oh, Foster ran 5:32 in the 1600m, a PR for her.

[Cocca]

What's the SC?

[mcflyxc23]

steeplechase

[nebrun3]

Steeplechase (One word or two??)

Edit: Haha, beat me to it, Ryan.

[mcflyxc23]

one word i believe

[Cocca]

hah thanks dudes, totally slipped my noggin

[TCrock]

...I don't think it would be a stretch to say they might have the third best boys team in the league...


Eh, the way I see it is it's not that much of a strech to have them be the second best boys in the league. They doubled Suffield, we doubled Suffield, it's kinda tricky. But Tuesday will reveal all, we'll try to get marks from um and post them here, at least placing in the throws, I'll know those, probably the relays, and some clutch races.

[Cocca]

The difference in Conference might be who has the most dominant athletes. You can have guys that win a dual meet but can finish no beter than 5th or 6th in conference. Where another guy who would win a dual meet could be 1st or 2nd at conference.

[Cocca]

I stumbled across this while looking at the trinity results, I wonder what it means?
7 smith, athalia New Britain 30-00.00 30-05.00 Can't read sheet

[stataz]

I wouldnt be surprised if it got wet and the sheet was unreadable

[Multees]

Hunter wasn't the only one to run the SteepleChase. Foster and Loughrey's 16 was under water. (That was just before the drains filled up and the whole track went a foot under.) That was a great run for Foster! A PR... in those conditions... while staying with the pack on the second lap (88 sec). Those two ran two neg splits as the rain got harder. Good thing they got away from the pack and ran together! Good show ladies! :D

[Multees]

FYI: This website is awesome! www.ewbl.tk

[CT_Runner]

Eh, the way I see it is it's not that much of a strech to have them be the second best boys in the league. They doubled Suffield, we doubled Suffield, it's kinda tricky. But Tuesday will reveal all, we'll try to get marks from um and post them here, at least placing in the throws, I'll know those, probably the relays, and some clutch races.

To say that they are the second best team in the league is to say they are better than one of Ellington or Tolland. (Since you are from Tolland, are you saying they are better than Ellington?) Although they have a few good sprinters/jumpers and Burnham throwing I don't think they have the depth to beat either Ellington or Tolland.

It's a possibility that they don't get a point against Tolland or Ellington in anything above 400m. Sweep the three long races and the 4x8 and you've already got 32 points. You only need 77.5 to win a meet.

[EagleThrower]

Hey CT Runner how is ellington's throwing? There just doesnt seem to be any real far throwing this year from any NCCC team. That is from what ive been reading in the paper.

[RedOval]

I think the one of the reasons both East Windsor and Tolland doubled Suffield was because of their field events and sprinting. In Suffield's current state, it doesn't take much to score against them in both sections. Suffield has occasionally picked up a couple of points, but most of the nine points usually go to the other team. That's why they might do better in the conference meet; with more teams and more potential scorers, one or two scoring in each event goes farther than in a dual meet.

And I heard that Suffield's 4x800 splits on Friday were:
Chapman-2:06.5
Parent-2:14
Wilson-2:12
Rigby-2:03.1

Great job to all the competitors this weekend.

[Papa Smurf]

this looks to be a good year, hopefully there'll be some mad races at nccc's

is Miller for ellington out for the entire season? due to a broken ankle from..a wiffle ball game? you guys sure are serious about that...

[shut_put_05]

Although they have a few good sprinters/jumpers and Burnham throwing I don't think they have the depth to beat either Ellington or Tolland.

How far is Burnham throwing this year?

[EaglesPVXC]

what does EW have in races farther than the 400

[RedOval]

I think Barkman, one of their 400 runners, has run the 800 and could probably post a decent time for a dual meet, good enough for second or third against a team that doesn't have good distance depth.

Grouten is probably at or below 5:15 for the 1600, and Jenkins is probably at or below 12:00 for the 3200.

Probably not much trouble for distance teams with good depth. Suffield could have shut them out in the distance events if more of their runners were available, but as it was, EW only took five points I believe (2-3 in the 1600, third in the 3200).

The Girls have Ashley O'Brien. But, like their guys, there isn't much depth.

[EaglesPVXC]

wow im surprised by that i guess those guys most only run track cuz their XC team was pretty week. So Stafford Invite is coming up I assume all the NCCC teams are going does anyone else know who will be there?

[mcflyxc23]

haddam killingworth , old saybrook ( i think) prince prolly quite a few other schools.

[EaglesPVXC]

Some pretty good schools hopefully it will be a good meet and well get some nice weather and some good times

[isleepwithjello]

some of us suffield girls wont be there. going to penn relays this week!!!! :D

[CT_Runner]

wow im surprised by that i guess those guys most only run track cuz their XC team was pretty week. So Stafford Invite is coming up I assume all the NCCC teams are going does anyone else know who will be there?

Besides the NCCC teams you normally get
East Catholic
Cromwell
Old Saybrook
Prince Tech
H-K
Lyme-Old Lyme
Morgan
East Hampton
Windham Tech
Tourtelotte


You can find last year's results here:
http://www.plattsys.com/pts2004.htm

[warrior09]

If the Stafford Relays are this weekend, Prince will be at the 75th Greater Hartford Invitational at Hall-West Hartford

[Multees]

some of us suffield girls wont be there. going to penn relays this week!!!! :D

Man, I thought that WHOLE SUFFIELD team was out on injuries and coach wasn't going to take the "walking wounded". He said he didn't want to kill the rest of the season. Must have had a great vacation. Does Suffield have their act together finally? Penn must have been a little motivation. Good to hear you're all back on your feet. GOOD LUCK ON THURSDAY!!! ;)

[EaglesPVXC]

Seems to me that theres been a lot of injuries this year compared to other. (suffield especially)

[isleepwithjello]

my injury didn't prevent me from running, i just cut my runs short for a week, so cocca and i have both finished PT, whit is the one still going but she is doing well. only one person wont be back for the season :( and thanks!!! i am excited for penn!

[Multees]

my injury didn't prevent me from running, i just cut my runs short for a week, so cocca and i have both finished PT, whit is the one still going but she is doing well. only one person wont be back for the season :( and thanks!!! i am excited for penn!


If you're all back, who is the one person not coming back?

[isleepwithjello]

well Jess Giller, hurdler and 4x400 got hurt and was originally supposed to be out for 4-6 months but she is going to physical therepy now and should be able to start running in 2-3 weeks.

[TCrock]

To say that they are the second best team in the league is to say they are better than one of Ellington or Tolland. (Since you are from Tolland, are you saying they are better than Ellington?) Although they have a few good sprinters/jumpers and Burnham throwing I don't think they have the depth to beat either Ellington or Tolland.

It's a possibility that they don't get a point against Tolland or Ellington in anything above 400m. Sweep the three long races and the 4x8 and you've already got 32 points. You only need 77.5 to win a meet.

I never did say who was in competition for place 2. But i think this year, Ellington will win everything again without breaking a sweat. Although Tolland is peaking this year, and Ellington's on a decline, there's just no way if we're going to struggle against EW.

Like I said, We doubled Suffield, and so did EW. If it is true, and we do win by some amount, then that is a hurdle towards getting ready to have a tough meet against Ellington. But if it's close, or we lose, then I'd say we'd try hard, but not expect much. Obviously Ellington is still the top seed, anyone who debates that is looney.

But depending on how well we do (or poorly) against EW we could strom into the SI and then bring Avon and Ellington home for a close one or get down on ourselves and fizzle out. Tomorrow will certainly tell.

But as you know, going on scores alone is tough, it kinda helps, but they could have stolen points in relays and close throws where we just out muscled. Again tomorrow is judgement day for Tolland.

[CT_Runner]

I think you are selling your own team short. Just because two teams double the score of the same team does not mean those two teams are evenly matched. For example if there was an event that EW went 1-3 and Suffield took second and then the same thing happened where Tolland went 1-3 and Suffield went #2 again. It is possible that Tollands #1 is better than EW #1 and Tolland's #3 is better than EW #3 which allows Tolland to go 1-3 and EW to ger 2nd and outscoring them 6 to 3.

Honestly I would guess for a score of somewhere around 90-60 plus or minus 7 in either direction in favor of Tolland. That's still a pretty good sized win. If it's closer than that I will be suprised.

I think Tolland wins all three relays (up 15-0 right there), gets outscored in the hurdles (only two events), outscores EW a bit from 400m down, outsocres them by a lot 800m and up, maybe a wash in the throws and jumps combined.

Then again maybe TCrock is just blowing smoke and putting up a facade for next weeks Tolland v Ellington on their home turf.

Good luck to everyone tomorrow!

[EaglesPVXC]

I think that the meet will be alott closer than that. I thought EW had some pretty good jumpers? I guess we'll see. Weather seems pretty perfect if ya ask me "Sunshine along with some passing clouds. High 66F. Winds SSW at 10 to 20 mph. " GL to all

[TCrock]

Well Senior jumper is out for the seasons, due to injury, and other things, but, that's kind of what I was eluding to. I only speak frankly, what I say here is what I believe. I do not have much doubt that we'll win, but if anyone besides Ellington is going to beat us, I think EW is going to be the team. They've gotten steadily better, and now we're just about to see what they've been hiding from us.


As of now I believe we'll win, but honestly EW is a huge threat in my book, like walking into a dark room that you've been in before, but things might have moved around a bit, it'd be terrible to stub our toe or trip walking into that meet too confidently. (man that was a good medaphor)

[CT_Runner]

I'll agree with that. They do seem to be an unknown at this point. How does the phrase go? It's something like "The enemy you know is better than the one you don't." Ellington v Tolland is always fun because we know what each other has so it becomes a chess game of matchups and avoidance. But EW has been scoring a bunch of points and most of us aren't really sure how.

As I said before, good luck to everyone today.

By the way, who is running Avon today? I'd like to know a bit more about them too.

[Cocca]

Avon's got 2 good sprinters.

[TCrock]

...But EW has been scoring a bunch of points and most of us aren't really sure how...

They're good, that's how.

You were right though, the score was 90ish-60ish...

They're good at most feild events except shot. We swept shot, and to me, that's all that matters. Jav, Disc (Lipcius got 2nd...), long, triple, high jump, pole vault. That basically sums it up. And their runners went toe to toe with ours, we split the first two relays, and they're really good at hurdles.

Oh yeah, 90ish EW, 60ish Tolland. As long as you have someone who can throw over 35' in the shot, they're beaten there.

I told you they were contending for 2nd/3rd, not 3rd/4th/5th ;)

[Vit77]

The honest truth about EW is exactly what I said earlier, they're the underdog team who is going to surprise everyone. They have so much talent everywhere, but the heart is unreal. The juniors and seniors are so stoked about being competitive when they had been so used to losing...and they're a stacked team. Like CT Runner said they're distance is very weak, and that hurts them a lot. But it was unreal how they just kept getting point after point. Does it suck to lose? Of course, but they are a very talented team and something to certainly worry about. They're hurdlers are sick...both juniors who've run 16.1 already this year. The 300 IH was an amazing race...Johnson ran 45.1 and I ran 45.6...and that was with the hurdles being in the wrong lanes for the 2nd half of the race...dont even ask, but we definetly had to rerun it and that was awful. They have sprinters, discus tossers, apparently jav throwers since they SWEPT us, hurdlers, long jumpers, triple jumpers and they most certainly have 2 HJ's over 6 feet. They have so much talent and certainly enough depth to compete with anyone in this conference right now.
On a side note though, its tough hearing people placing teams before meets happen. Meets can turn with one race or throw and completely change the outcome. One kid setting a PR in the LJ can psych him up so that he has 3 more PR's that day. And of course vice versa. Team records can rank teams places for sure...but when NCCC rolls around its a whole new ball game. No more scoring against each team...its the team with the most talent. And you can get a read on that, but you can't ever predict because anything can happen for sure. Sorry about writing the novel here, havent been on in a while

[CT_Runner]

Just to support my cause that you can't always use meet scores as an indicator:

At our meet today that STF girls beat the SOM girls 103-46 and the ELL girls beat the SOM girls 109-36. Very similar scores, right?

The ELL girls beat the STF girls 93-57. Closer, but not too close.

I told you they were contending for 2nd/3rd, not 3rd/4th/5th
Not to be argumentative or anything (it gets into semantics at a certain point), I wasn't saying EW was contending for 3rd/4th/5th. I believe they are solidly the #3 team in the league. I doens't matter now anyway. We don't face them until the last week of the season.

When you say they went toe-to-toe with your runners do you mean from 800m and up as well? (Maybe nebrun can give some details...) What about the 4x4? Split the firts two relays? They took the 4x1? (I assume...) WOW.

I suppose we'll get a better look at them on Friday, but the two event limitation does hamper what you get to see out of a team sometimes.

Our homestretch was very windy today so the times are quite slow. Except for Holly Burns who ran a 60.01 in the wind. She's going to run real fast come championship time.

[CT_Runner]

The honest truth about EW is exactly what I said earlier, they're the underdog team who is going to surprise everyone. They have so much talent everywhere, but the heart is unreal. The juniors and seniors are so stoked about being competitive when they had been so used to losing...and they're a stacked team. Like CT Runner said they're distance is very weak, and that hurts them a lot. But it was unreal how they just kept getting point after point. Does it suck to lose? Of course, but they are a very talented team and something to certainly worry about. They're hurdlers are sick...both juniors who've run 16.1 already this year. The 300 IH was an amazing race...Johnson ran 45.1 and I ran 45.6...and that was with the hurdles being in the wrong lanes for the 2nd half of the race...dont even ask, but we definetly had to rerun it and that was awful. They have sprinters, discus tossers, apparently jav throwers since they SWEPT us, hurdlers, long jumpers, triple jumpers and they most certainly have 2 HJ's over 6 feet. They have so much talent and certainly enough depth to compete with anyone in this conference right now.
On a side note though, its tough hearing people placing teams before meets happen. Meets can turn with one race or throw and completely change the outcome. One kid setting a PR in the LJ can psych him up so that he has 3 more PR's that day. And of course vice versa. Team records can rank teams places for sure...but when NCCC rolls around its a whole new ball game. No more scoring against each team...its the team with the most talent. And you can get a read on that, but you can't ever predict because anything can happen for sure. Sorry about writing the novel here, havent been on in a while

Excellent post.

[EaglesPVXC]

When you say they went toe-to-toe with your runners do you mean from 800m and up as well? (Maybe nebrun can give some details...)

Well i dunno if you would call their distance good but i think they are legit. I dunno whats wrong with tollands distance squad but we havent been posting the numbers we should be in relation to our XC times. Mack and I got 1 and 3rd in the 8.(EW second) I think EW got the best of us in the 16 but Tolland swwept the 32. So we split the distance maybe we got a couple more points from that

[Vit77]

They had a good 4x4 team...very solid
And the 4x1, the 100 and the 200 were literally nailbiters, we're talking .1 and .2 differentials...they were amazing races...that could easily go either way in the future

[CT_Runner]

They had a good 4x4 team...very solid
And the 4x1, the 100 and the 200 were literally nailbiters, we're talking .1 and .2 differentials...they were amazing races...that could easily go either way in the future

Those are always tough on the meet officials in terms of times and eyeing (sp?) the places. Worse when it's close and you know the meet score will be tight.

[Cocca]

Don't read this I was wrong I posted later in the thread with the right results. My bad all.

[EaglesPVXC]

How close was suffield to enfield?(guys)

[Cocca]

honestly I don;t know

[Cocca]

Actually, just to clarify what I said last night, the guy won against both enfield and granby and the girls lost to granby but beat enfield.

[EagleThrower]

......They have sprinters, discus tossers, apparently jav throwers since they SWEPT us....

Yeah they do have some jav throwers but nothing a solid throw could handle from a average thrower. They were only throwing about 117 with the longest being 119. Im sure Bryce Metzger could handle them for ellington.

[CT_Runner]

I apparently misread TCrock's post last night when he stated the score. I must have read it quickly and assummed the 90 points belonged to TOL. So my posts last night probably don't make any sense. I can say that I stand corrected! WOW! EW looks pretty good.

Did Lipcuis really throw 49-4? Very impressive if so.

[Vit77]

No...it was 44 9 i think...i know it was in the 44's

[RedOval]

Well i dunno if you would call their distance good but i think they are legit. I dunno whats wrong with tollands distance squad but we havent been posting the numbers we should be in relation to our XC times. Mack and I got 1 and 3rd in the 8.(EW second) I think EW got the best of us in the 16 but Tolland swwept the 32. So we split the distance maybe we got a couple more points from that

What were the times?

[shut_put_05]

No, my throw was 44-4, the shot judge had crapy handwriting. But when I saw that in the paper, I must admit that it made me feel awesome, but then I quickly came back down to earth. But hey, at least they spelled my name right this week. :D

[Hunta17]

44-4 is still a pretty good throw though....i dont know that much about the throws but that should be close to placing at states right....which means if you pr by like 6 inches or a little more you could make it to open.....i think

[Cocca]

Yea man you are really close:
6 Hungerford, Will 12 Plainville 45-00.00 44-04.00@ 3
^^ That was 6th last year at states^^

[TCrock]

44-4 is still a pretty good throw though....i dont know that much about the throws but that should be close to placing at states right....which means if you pr by like 6 inches or a little more you could make it to open.....i think
Now not to put anyone down, but that shot area is messed up. It makes up for throwing uphill in Ellington's old circle (now that they changed the angle, i think it was fixed.), and you throw down hill, just a slight decline, but still. Everyone PB's there. But with the difference, I'd give it high 43's, still a solid throw, best of the year I believe. It's just a few inches according to people. I just think it exaggerates how much you won by, or lost.

[shut_put_05]

44-4 is still a pretty good throw though....i dont know that much about the throws but that should be close to placing at states right....which means if you pr by like 6 inches or a little more you could make it to open.....i think

I know its a good toss, but I'm just frustrated because I Know I can throw farther than I have been. I'm not sure about how well it will place me at states, but a good throw none-the-less.

[CT_Runner]

Mr. Corbett the longtime Ellington coach and a really sharp math teacher looked into jumping in pits where the sand was lower than it should have been. His conclusion was that you gain approximately the same distance as the sand is low. I wonder if it is the same for throwing into a sector that is lower than the circle. I suppose if the trajectory of the shot is steeper than a jump you will gain less than the elevation difference and if the trajectory is less steep than that of a jump you will gain more than the elevation difference.

[Cocca]

I got an idea. Since the Stafford Relays have a good number of NCCC teams, we should find someway to tell the other teams about dyestat and this thread so there is more than just 3 teams represented.

[EaglesPVXC]

Sounds like a good idea Cocca glad u volunteered yourself go for it

[nebrun3]

I'm game. Cocca will need a little help, so let's tell a bunch of people.

[Cocca]

you know what would be boss? An announcement on the loudspeeker or something.

[shut_put_05]

does anyone know if theres a performance list up for the stafford invite?

[nebrun3]

you know what would be boss? An announcement on the loudspeeker or something.

Great idea. We can talk to the announcer when we get there maybe??

[CT_Runner]

There wouldn't be one posted online. The entries and timing are being done by a combination of the Suffield, Stafford, and Ellington coaches. Mr. Sinocrope is taking care of the entries. Sometimes he will email a copy of it to the coaches prior to the meet, but I haven't seen one yet.

On Cocca's note. I think we should encourage the females to discuss their meets as well. I think the ELL v. TOL girls meet is going to be very exciting next week. Possibly the best meet of the season, boys meets included.

[TCrock]

Man I got the worst news today... So remember how someone one Ellington broke their ankle and is now out for the season? yeah if it anyone else it wouldn't have mattered. But is it Kyle(Pronounced Keel?) Miller? this kid was finally getting good and beat me by an inch in NCCC-Indoor... that's the worst way to end the year. I was waiting for the Ellington meet for this reason only, I didn't care if we won, I didn't care if we lost, I cared about the rematch. I cared about the fight, the competition. NCCC Indoor was the best competition I had ever been in. Now I am depressed. Say it ain't so jack, say it ain't so...

[CT_Runner]

Yeah, he turned it after our meet duning vacation. Actually he dislocated it and broke a bone in his leg and tore up all the ligaments. He had surgery this afternoon to put screws and pins and stuff in it.

spelled Kiel, pronounced Kyle

[Vit77]

So there's no performance list to be viewed?

[isleepwithjello]

how did tonight go? where are results going to be posted?

[stataz]

The most talented race was prolly the 400 with good times from Little and Senger. Nothing else really jumped out at me

[Cocca]

It's really tough to run once the sun goes down and everything. Hows Morgan doing?

[CT_Runner]

I think that Stewart's time in the 300IH was pretty impressive (41.19).

Although not a NCCC guy, Bent's 1600m time (4:33) was impressive considering that the first lap was run in 76. Then he ran his last 1200m in 3:17 (68 sec per lap or 4:24 pace).

I do have to say that it just didn't feel right to not have TOL in the 4x400 with the boys. Even so, the girls seems to be putting together some nice 4x4 races against each other since last year.

The results will be up on mysportsresults.com at some point.

[Papa Smurf]

bumpage

so, whats going on next week? Tollands got Ellington I believe.

[Cocca]

Suffield is going up against Somers and East Granby i think

[BlueTeamGo]

Yeah, tri-meet of Tolland, Ellington, and Avon next week but I don't know if its Tuesday or Wednesday, I think Wednesday at Tolland.

[Vit77]

Yea Tolland has Ellington and Avon on Wednesday in Tolland...
Does East Granby still have that Horan kid? Didn't he win an event or two last year at NCCC's as a sophmore?

[EagleThrower]

I got an idea. Since the Stafford Relays have a good number of NCCC teams, we should find someway to tell the other teams about dyestat and this thread so there is more than just 3 teams represented.

So did any one follow cocca's idea and spred the word of dyestat to other teams at stafford on friday

[Papa Smurf]

probably not. Who listens to Cocca anyways? :D

[Cocca]

HAHA everyone does!

[Papa Smurf]

well, we'll wait and see now wont we.

[Cocca]

hah, umm maybe. BTW Suffield had a meet against Somers and East Granby, I think we lost against somers and won against East Granby. The weather was horrible!

[isleepwithjello]

yea the girls beat both east granby and somers i believe
it was a good meet even with the nasty weather :D

[Cocca]

it was good

[shut_put_05]

Tolland vs. Ellington on weds. Gonna be a kick ass meet. I'm totally stoked.

[TCrock]

BTW Suffield had a meet against Somers and East Granby, I think we lost against somers

Indeed Somers did have a good showing at The Stafford Invite. I know they do have one thrower over 40, I was not too in tune to Discus, but I'm sure he's good at that too. The running didn't look outstanding in my book, solid, but not outstanding. Of course With all the teams there, I wasn't really comparing to anyone, just not many 1st places it seemed like.

Tolland vs. Ellington on weds. Gonna be a kick ass meet. I'm totally stoked.

Also Tolland vs. Avon, and Ellington vs Avon. I'm a big fan of the avon meet, for some reason, I just seem to think of home.

[Cocca]

Somers has that Mundes or whatever who is a good sprinter. I didn't get to face him at all tho.

[TCrock]

How did this get to the 2nd page...

bump

[Papa Smurf]

cause sadly theres only 6 people that use it

[RedOval]

Enfield 80, East Windsor 70. Unless there was a mistake in the paper.

How did the Ellington/Tolland/Avon meet go?

[stataz]

Ellington Boys won pretty easily

Tolland Girls won...it came down to the 4x4, and they were able to beat out Ellington.

[Ecliptica]

I miss Michael Cocca :(

What will it take to win NCCCs outdoor this year? I'm moving to Suffield next week (to Cocca's basement) and want to know if I can contend for a few titles.

[Papa Smurf]

yeah the meet had some good races like the 1600, 400, 800 and 200. some solid times there, specifically macklem in the 1600 beating the 10 year school record so yeah thats my opinion.


(apparently someone is planning to get me banned from this site? from ellington? gonna hide in the shadows?)

[stataz]

(apparently someone is planning to get me banned from this site? from ellington? gonna hide in the shadows?)


I donno who it is, but it sounds like a good idea to me

[EaglesPVXC]

Oooooo Snap!!!

[EagleThrower]

I donno who it is, but it sounds like a good idea to me
I concure :D

[EagleThrower]

[QUOTE=stataz]Ellington Boys won pretty easily

Ellington boys did not win it too easily. :mad: Actually Tolland was winning 44 to 29 by the end of the 1600. it was a close meet i would say.

[Papa Smurf]

no respect here, i got no respect. what, cant stand a little humor? yeah this is a track forum and such, but it all cant be about running, even tho that is important. i just try to add a little fun here and there, so people like you (stataz) dont bore people to death.

so ill stop here

yeah so what about enfield? they that good? wow.

[EaglesPVXC]

wow what a mean post gosh you had to go and diss the special ed kids... thats low....

[nebrun3]

Enfield 80, East Windsor 70. Unless there was a mistake in the paper.

How did the Ellington/Tolland/Avon meet go?

Wow. Enfield was a real sleeper if this was true. Makes everything that much more interesting...

[Vit77]

Yea saying that Ellington won easily is a pretty ballsy comment...yea the 32 was a sweep, but we didnt run a varsity 4x4 either. I mean that was a close meet and after the 200 the meet was over, so not much to say about that. I thought it was a great meet...and I'd like to hear what the coach and the people who are still in high school have to say about that meet...

And Yea! Jeez...Enfield?? Wow, but if you look at the stats it was a joke for everything over the 400...so it came down to sprints and hurdles and Stewart came up big in the 110s and 300s and Enfields sprinter won the 1 and 2...so it looks like Enfield gets killed in distance and field by teams with more depth

[stataz]

[QUOTE=stataz]Ellington Boys won pretty easily

Ellington boys did not win it too easily. :mad: Actually Tolland was winning 44 to 29 by the end of the 1600. it was a close meet i would say.


It looked to me that Ellington won it quite handily

[BlueTeamGo]

Good meet. Nice job Ellingon, great performances all around. So the records for teams are what?

[Papa Smurf]

am i the only one here who thinks stataz is just a wee bit too cocky? i mean, you're not even on the team anymore are you? let someone who is actually on the team comment on how the meet went

tollands what...4-2?

[Cocca]

Yea not looking at the stats for the Enfield meet, I would bet my money to say that the reason they won was because of the sprints. With both teams, East WIndsor and Enfield, their strength is in the sprints and hurdles so naturally if one team can cancel out another strength, victory is assured.

[stataz]

hey theres no need to get all angry. All i was saying was the Boys Meet didn't seem to be a nailbiter

[shut_put_05]

THIS IS MADNESS I SAY! SO MUCH ANGER!

on a lighter note:
the meet was decently close, not a nailbiter, but closer than i think either team was expecting. alot closer than last year when u guys doubled us up. anywho, everyone needs to chill the fudge out, its done, get over it, i know im over it, and i prolly hate losing to ellington more than anyone else. so STOP THE ARGUING!!!!!!!!!!

and nick vitello is a pimp

[Papa Smurf]

tollands got enfield next week, tho i may be wrong.

who has whom when and where?

[CT_Runner]

I'll tell you that even as I write this I don't know the score and I didn't bring any meet stuff home with me so some of this will be from memory and the rest is my best guess. So here's my editorial on the whole meet. Apologies in advance if this gets lengthy, but it was such a great meet with many memorable moments.

Ellington did win, but it was closer than I thought it was going to be. On the Ellington side, Morgan was out and Hrubala was dinged up and didn't perform as well as he can. To counter that Tolland was missing Willette and Fisher was in his first meet back.

The boys 1600...great race by two runners, although I don't think either is at his peak. We know that Macklem is still a bit short on fitness due to time lost for his injury. Hunter is training at a very high level. He was sick at the end of last week, ran 13 miles on Sunday to conclude a 59 mile week, did a track workout on Monday, and ran twice on Tuesday. In fact he told me he is up to 34 miles for Mon, Tues, and Wed of this week. I'm not making excuses for Hunter here, I've addressed both runners' issues. Of course Macklem did come back better in the 800 than Hunter did...

Liz Foster...everyone has got to admit she was impressive today (5:40, 2:33, 12:28, all state qualifying times, plus 2nd in the PV).

Girls 4x4...very exciting...

Which brings me to Karen Gurnon. Wow! Clutch adjustments to wheat she thought she was going to run when she woke up this morning and a great split, 61.x from what I heard.

Coach Bernier...great adjustements to his entries to keep his girls on the high side of points. Very difficult to do mid-meet, and lucky to have such quality and versatile athletes to accomodate those changes.

Boys 4x4...someone said that Tolland didn't run a varsity team...true, but who could you run with Macklem and Little to get down to the 3:39 that Ellington ran today? Maybe you can, I don't know the team as well as people on it. With a helthy Willette you start having a different story. Would it be McCarthy? Maybe Vitello? If you use Vitello he has to come out of one of the other 4 events that he did.

Boys 3200...just throwing some props out. #2-#4 in that race all PRed by 20+ seconds and they are a freshman and two sophomores. One of them had already run 4:51 in the mile.

Girls thowers...I was suprised that Ellingotn went 1-2 in the shot and discus...maybe lucky...maybe not...only time will tell...

I don't know about the boys field events, Coach Corbett was recording them and I left them at school.

All in all it was a very fun day and still sit here excited about all that happened.

[Hunta17]

it was 31, i just checked
sun - 14
mon - 8ish
tues - 3, 6

[Hunta17]

and i forgot to say dave.....i was very impressed with that 800

[CT_Runner]

Ellington 89 Tolland 61

[exknight549]

wow thats not to bad for Ellington 89 points with out Morgan who probly would of won 3 events (100,200,LJ). Again Tolland has had injuries as well. Will Willette be back at all? Looks like Ellington should be in good shape for atleast one more year to keep their control in the NCCC. The real race looks like for second place at conference Enfield ? Tolland ? East Windsor? That should be good. One more thing, I think Tolland is going a little hard on Stataz he wasn't saying anything to disrespect Tolland, the meet really wasn't that close its just a fact.

[CT_Runner]

Sometimes I think that point scores for track meets are decieving. For example, this week's 70-80 score for EW v. ENF. Although it is a 10 point differential that just means one lousy relay. Give one of ENF's relays to EW and it's a tie meet. Every point scored in a track meet is a two point differential. To add a point to a team's score you need to take one away from the other team.

[RedOval]

CTRunner and Hunta, what were these amazing times you were talking about?

[CT_Runner]

Boys side:
1600m: Macklem 4:27, Norte' 4:28
400m: Metzger 51.6
800m: Macklem 2:02, Anselmo 2:03
3200m: Carlson 10:35, Sullivan 10:36, Szafir 10:37, Kelleher 10:38
4x400m: Ellington 3:39 without Metzger

Girls side:
4x100m: Tolland 54.6, Ellington 54.7
1600m: Foster 5:40, KGurnon 5:41
800m: Foster 2:33, Dwire 2:37
300IH: AGurnon 51.8?
200m: KGurnon 28.low
3200m: Foster 12:29, Heffernan 12:30, Clarke 12:38, Grab 12:57, Gale 13:03

I know not all of the times are great, but some of the doubles and triples are very impressive, esp. for a NCCC dual meet. I mean how many girls 3200m this year have been anywhere as deep as this one? Maybe the boys 3200 times aren't great, but all those guys are from ELL and after Carlson you go with a frosh and two sophs. It's the first season Szafir has ever run and he ran a 4:51 earlier in the meet. KGurnon's time in the 200m is all the more impressive because she's a middle distance runner AND a freshman...and she split 61.x in the 4x4.

I think the whole meet was very impressive as fas as times go for dual meets in this league. Feel free to disagree, but I think it would be tough to do so.

[Papa Smurf]

it was a fun meet to participate in and watch. however i almost killed phil with a discus.

[TCrock]

It was another classic Ellington meet, they won it in the distance races, simple as that. 4x8, 3200, 1600 (2,3). We controlled throwing, they controlled jumping. Little didn't do his part in the 400, and the 100 was just a slight win for them. It was a close meet when you bring it down to the finishes where things were a toss up. But point wise it could look like they won easily.

EDIT: hmmm when i posted I skipped a few pages of reading. CTRunner didn't look at the field events or doesn't remember them for a reason ;). On a different note, you know Tolland and Ellington's coaches are both named Peter? Huh, I remember knowing that from before, but I found it funny to remember.

[CT_Runner]

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EDIT: hmmm when i posted I skipped a few pages of reading. CTRunner didn't look at the field events or doesn't remember them for a reason ;).


Ha ha...very funny. I knew what had happened but since I wasn't the one recording them, I didn't know them as well as I knew the girls so I didn't want to speak erroneously (sp?). Was your shot a PR? I knew Thomspon had a great day at the shot and our disc throwers did well for themselves. I know only in the 80's, but they are really just a bunch of sophomores so they've got time. I didn't comment on the high jump because I didn't think winning the HJ with 5'4" is all that impressive unless you are Latasha Jarrett. I knew Caputo and Hurbala went 1-2 in the LJ with jumps over 18, but I didn't exactly know what.

And not to slight the sprinters either, but I don't trust hand times at all for the 100m. Too many times I've seen 11.4's in the paper only to know that the kid never goes under 12.00 FAT. I think to say that Little didn't do his part in the 400 is a bit harsh. Sure, he din't run his best time, but you can't lose respect for a kid for losing to Metzger. I saw him at the end of the race and it didn't look like it was for lack of trying.

[EagleThrower]

CT Runner, ive seen metzger's named mentioned in many events, both field and track. Does he have plans to compete in the decathalon at states this year? If so it would be great to watch, and i wish him luck and may he represent the NCCC well.

[EagleThrower]

Oh and to stataz i admit i was a bit harsh on you, i had just come off the lose to ellington. But you have to admit that an 18 point difference is just 9 points that could be won at a meet. and that 9 points is just a few places difference.

[stataz]

maybe so, but ellington won by 28 points not 18

And Bryce has done the Decathalon for the past two years, so it's not something new...hes just a beast, or better yet...hes a Metzger

[TCrock]

Ha ha...very funny. I knew what had happened but since I wasn't the one recording them, I didn't know them as well as I knew the girls so I didn't want to speak erroneously (sp?). Was your shot a PR?
Hah all in good fun. and yes yes it was.

[EaglesPVXC]

I was just wondering where the freshmen and sophs that ran the 3200 that fast came from? Howd they get so good so quick? I know Kellener is XC but those other two kids are the soccer people or are they looking to be on XC next year?

[CT_Runner]

Sullivan (frosh) played soccer last fall. He did run indoors, but at NCCC he tweaked his knee in the HJ between the 4x8 and the 1600 so no one really saw him. He led off the 4x8 against Sartori. He's running XC in the fall.

This is Szafir's (soph) first running season ever. He's apparently a pretty good hockey player. Word is that if he plays for the school team in the winter he'll run Xc, but if he plays for his eleite team he won't be able to.

That puts the ELL Xc team with Carlson, Sullivan, and Kelleher from that race. Plus, Sitek and maybe Pike.

As far as how they got so good so quick...I honestly don't know. I've been suprised by it myself.

[Papa Smurf]

its never too early to start wondering about XC

[EaglesPVXC]

That puts the ELL Xc team with Carlson, Sullivan, and Kelleher from that race. Plus, Sitek and maybe Pike.

Wow thats a pretty solid XC team but of course there was no doubt that things would come together for yall. You always seem to throw together a great team.

[RedOval]

Wow, nice times. Good job everyone (referring to the ellington/tolland meet).

Did Jurszyk (spelling?) run in the 1600?

[RedOval]

I knew Caputo and Hurbala went 1-2 in the LJ with jumps over 18, but I didn't exactly know what.

Ask Cocca what he jumped first time back last night :D .

It was another classic Ellington meet, they won it in the distance races, simple as that. 4x8, 3200, 1600 (2,3). We controlled throwing, they controlled jumping.

And I would like to point out that there are only 4 (including 4x800) distance events and 32 distance points available. Therefore, you have to have good sprinting (7 events and 55 points) and/or field (7 events and 63 points). Distance can give you key points, but you can't win a meet on distance alone. Ellington is so good because they have good throwing, sprinting, mid-distance and distance.

[Papa Smurf]

Well, from my three years of minimal experience, Tolland seems to have always lacked strength in high, tripple, and long jumps, and hurdles. Now Im not saying the people who compete in those events are bad, they're usually quite good, it just seems other towns tend to have better athletes in those events.

Tolland almost always has a solid distance, throwing, pole vault and sprinting in my opinion. Id say our best strength is distance, followed by throwing. But who knows I may be wrong.

[Cocca]

Ask Cocca what he jumped first time back last night :D .


Heh, I don't know what that means but hey I'll comply, I jumped 19-0 but I fouled 2 out of my 3 jumps

[CT_Runner]

Wow, nice times. Good job everyone (referring to the ellington/tolland meet).

Did Jurszyk (spelling?) run in the 1600?

He ran 4:40 I think.

[RedOval]

CTRunner, how good is a 25 sec. 200 for a freshman distance runner doing it for the first time? It was this Friday at the Manchester meet. It was actually not his first time running it, he ran a 25.5 in the 4x200 and then 45 minutes later ran a 25 in the SMR.

[Vit77]

I completely disagree about Tolland distance being our strongest point, I think its one of our weakest. We have Macklem...yes...but we dont have enough support and as you can see, we got swept in the 3200 and would have gotten swept in the 16 if Macklem hadnt run it. We have one top runner, but not enough depth...this year that is, we dont have any senior distance runners. And in jumping I think Ellington and East Windsor were the only meeets we lost so far...of course neither Cocca nor W. HIll jumped for Suffield when we met...and yes HJ is almost always a downfal...I say throwing is our strong point

[CT_Runner]

CTRunner, how good is a 25 sec. 200 for a freshman distance runner doing it for the first time? It was this Friday at the Manchester meet. It was actually not his first time running it, he ran a 25.5 in the 4x200 and then 45 minutes later ran a 25 in the SMR.

A note on relay splits, most people say that unless it is the leadoff leg you should add abour 0.5 sec to any split to convert it to an open time. The reason is that you have a moving start for those legs. Also, how accurate can a 4x200m split be. Unless the coach is running back and forth across the infield to see the line accurately, I don't know how trustworthy the time is. This goes double if the race is still in lanes at that point.

I'd say they are good splits though. BMetzger has run 24.16 FAT, CAnslemo has split 24.x indoors, and I think I remember DMetzger running a 25.x split indoors as well. Depending on your distance times, you may want to rethink your discipline. Maybe you are better suited to be a long sprinter (400m) or a 400m/800m guy like Senger, Anselmo, or Metzger. The older Arnet brother was like that. I beleive he was NCCC Champion at 400m and 800m his senior year. He may have also won the NCCC XC that year too.

Congratulations to DLoughrey on an outstanding 3200m time. For reference, she ran 11:37 and Croft ran 11:27 last year and remember she also got down to a 5:07 1600m. I think the 1600m for the girls this year could be fun if O'Brien, Foster, and Loughrey all run it.

There is also some good competition in the girls 3200m. After Foster and Loughrey you have Bellamy (STF), Heffernan (ELL), Clarke (TOL), Grab (TOL), and Gale (ELL) all at 13:00 or better. Right now Heffernan and Bellamy seem to have a leg up on Clarke for the next spot. We also can't forget about that girl from Canton who came out of nowhere to win NCCC XC last fall. We haven't seen her yet, but I hear she's running well.

[Papa Smurf]

I completely disagree about Tolland distance being our strongest point, I think its one of our weakest.

i said almost always, as in reference to last year of Maynes, Peder, and Derek, which was a good distance pack. Yes this year we are a little low on the distance runners, or our distance runners are just out of training. And we are also plagued with the injury of Joe Cap, who was one of our better jumpers.

[isleepwithjello]

:D thanks :D

[Vit77]

My bad, I read that wrong...yes we usually have depth...
and I hope by injury you mean failed off the team, because thats why Joe isn't around anymore...

[TCrock]

He also injured himself, he was gonna be out either way.

[EagleThrower]

My bad, I read that wrong...yes we usually have depth...
and I hope by injury you mean failed off the team, because thats why Joe isn't around anymore...

yes he failed off the team but before that he tore somthing called a miniscus in his leg, which will prevent him from coming back after progress reports since he is now passing.

[Papa Smurf]

Anyway you say it it still turns out to be a blow to the team.

Tollands got enfield this week, tues or weds. How bout anybody else?

[Cocca]

Ellington and Canton. How is Canton's team?

[shut_put_05]

canton has a few good distance kids, that's really about it. it shouldnt be a problem for u suffielders.

[CT_Runner]

Thats suffingtoners...

[shut_put_05]

anyone know what the best marks/times in the conference are? or would that be too hard to find out?

[Ecliptica]

That's what I asked like three weeks ago. I need to compare how good I am to everyone else, that's what this website is for.

[Cocca]

That's what I asked like three weeks ago. I need to compare how good I am to everyone else, that's what this website is for.
heh..... O gregory. BUt about the list, There really isn't one. THe closest source you can find that would resemble it is the JI where you can check resutls of most of the NCCC teams.

[Ecliptica]

So, wait, Cocca, am I still the best runner in the NCCC?

[young buck]

hello gentlemen. i have recently made this new account to protect tolland jumpers. i am sick and tired of the abuse they recieve. i also would like to inform all of you on Tolland's victory over Enfield today, bitches. thats right. 4x1 only lost by like .2 or sumthin.....i smell conference champs.......

[stataz]

hello gentlemen. i have recently made this new account to protect tolland jumpers. i am sick and tired of the abuse they recieve. i also would like to inform all of you on Tolland's victory over Enfield today, bitches. thats right. 4x1 only lost by like .2 or sumthin.....i smell conference champs.......



hahahha thats a good one

[EagleThrower]

hello gentlemen. i have recently made this new account to protect tolland jumpers. i am sick and tired of the abuse they recieve. i also would like to inform all of you on Tolland's victory over Enfield today, bitches. thats right. 4x1 only lost by like .2 or sumthin.....i smell conference champs.......

The way the conference is looking right now it is really any ones meet. With every team haveing its own strong point, Ellington-distance, Tolland-throwing, East Windsor and Enfield with sprints, it is going to be tight at conference. Im not sure whats happening over at jumps tho for any team. It will come down to who has the most depth on their team and who will be able to step it up.

[Cocca]

boys side ellington beat suff, suff beat canton. HA, I just looked at the Hartford pub performance list, i'm 32 out of 32 int he 200 :cool:

[EaglesPVXC]

. HA, I just looked at the Hartford pub performance list, i'm 32 out of 32 int he 200 :cool:
Dont ya hate when that happens.... I was seated last in my race in the 800 at stafford but people are always seated better. I ended up beating 2 or 3 people in my race.

[isleepwithjello]

hello gentlemen. i have recently made this new account to protect tolland jumpers. i am sick and tired of the abuse they recieve. i also would like to inform all of you on Tolland's victory over Enfield today, bitches. thats right. 4x1 only lost by like .2 or sumthin.....i smell conference champs.......

i smell arrogance.

ellington girls won against suffield and canton, WE NEED THROWERS! aslkdfjalj and we beat canton

[Vit77]

lol Robbie Robbie Robbie...what a most excellent first post...welcome to dyestat...enfuegos para vida

[young buck]

by conference champs, i mean in the 4x1.....u wanna smell some arrogance jello, u can smell my ass. way to brag about beating canton, they're the equivalent of a 7th grade girls track team

[isleepwithjello]

hahahahahahaha I don't know what you were trying to accomplish with that but I can't stop laughing about smelling your ass. Plus, I wasn't bragging, I was just stating that we beat them.

[young buck]

alright, i accept ur apology

[Cocca]

by conference champs, i mean in the 4x1.....
don't put a target on your back in the 4x1 :o

[shut_put_05]

young buck, u never cease to amaze me. THRILLA IN VANILLA!!!!!!!!

[young buck]

fine cocca forget 4x1.... high jump is mine and thats a fact....hopefully every one faults by 5'1

[Cocca]

fine cocca forget 4x1.... high jump is mine and thats a fact....hopefully every one faults by 5'1
;)

[tags49]

Whitney Tag here...


All I can say is, no matter what the record... the conference meet is a wholllllee different story. In 2003, Suffield Girls beat Ellington Girls in a dual or tri meet... but Ellington won the entire conference. Don't get cocky... the real decider lies on May 25th... or 24th... whatever day NCCC is on. Keep up the good work teams.

[TrackRunner73]

fine cocca forget 4x1.... high jump is mine and thats a fact....hopefully every one faults by 5'1


hey I dont know who you are, but the only way you're winning high jump is if you compete against the girls

[CT_Runner]

So much anger young ones...I don't know who the young buck is, but he's either very funny or not funny at all. You are on jello for bragging about CAN (which we've established she wasn't doing) while you are braggina bout beating ENF. I've got to tell you that I'm not suprised that you guys beat ENF. You can argue back and forth about how EW beat you and then ENF beat EW, but as I've said before track meets are about matchups. When you are dealing with 18 different events the mathups can very greatly. If two teams have the same strengths it can go to who has the stronger weakness.

I haven't seen any results yet, but here's my guesses. The points for the 100m/200m were split fairly even, the 400m went to TOL, the 800m/1600m went to TOL (if Macklem ran them), the 3200m maybe to Grossow of ENF. We've already heard that TOL got the 4x1. Then the 4x8 and 4x4 to TOL as well. I give ENF the edge in the LJ and HJ, the TJ is a pick 'em, and TOL in the PV. Then I think TOL picks up big points in the throws.

Let me know how close/far I was.

If I'm not mistaken, this means that if ELL beats EW then TOL, EW, and ENF all go into the NCCC meet tied for 2nd with 2 losses each.

By the way jello, rigby, and chapman great races today. Have fun with the 400's tomorrow.

P.S. For the distance kids, Bussiere (CAN) ran 4:41 today.

[CT_Runner]

Event 23 Men 4x800 Meter Relay

5 Suffield 'A' 8:14.00
1) Chapman, Bill 2) Cocca, Mike
3) Rigby, Matt 4) Wilson, David
5) Tassinari, Mike 6)

Really?