Power training through other forms?

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I'm just wondering who uses something other than running for their power training.

I know Trinerd does his on a bike, and I've started doing the same with good results.

Anyone else have anything to share? Or anyone interested in the biking-for-sprinting program?

[Ak400m]

how do you start a forum? :p

[Brumund-Smith]

how do you start a forum? :p

Go to the first page of the category you want (i.e. Wisconsin, Legends Lounge, Elite, etc.) and click "New Thread."

[teamV]

alligator wrestling is good for building strength.

but seriously i just run so im useless to this topic

[Speed-driven]

there are some good swimming exercises, like practicing form, doing laps help a lot of the upper body. butterfly, or freestyle is good for your shoulders. Also doing breathing activities helps lung capacity. biking is good too like youve already said. doing general stretching and bending helps your flexiblity for longer strides and rhythm. That's all i can think of off my head

[Mr. Feet]

Plyometrics (google it)- jumping drills that help develop explosive power that is great for starts, and it develops muscles in general so you're stronger too. I did it for soccer training (I'm a goalie so my entire game is explosive power-type movements, diving, jumping, sprinting, etc.) and it worked great and translated, I believe, into more power coming out of the blocks in track.

[JSC.Rnr]

Haha this thread didn't go in a direction I predicted...I wasn't asking for assistance (although I thank you for offering it), I was merely looking for others' take on speed training through forms other than the traditional run & lift regimen.

I started this because I've found that doing well (on the local level) at both 400 and 5k is possible after training using a bike and power training intervals of 10 minutes. It's unreal...

[Speed-driven]

Oh,,ahahahah...well to be honest its best to switch up your workout a little bit. i find sometimes the things like swimming..or biking..have more of a strength and endurance training sometimes than just plain running. Plus is fun to do different things and still get the results u want.

[Matt]

Plyometrics (google it)- jumping drills that help develop explosive power that is great for starts, and it develops muscles in general so you're stronger too. I did it for soccer training (I'm a goalie so my entire game is explosive power-type movements, diving, jumping, sprinting, etc.) and it worked great and translated, I believe, into more power coming out of the blocks in track.

QFE

[Speed-driven]

actually..riding a bike up a steep hill. is harder than running up a steep hill. So i would say in some cases biking is better. It also helps your explosion.and is a good workout for legs..and endurance ( dependin on how much u ride )

[JSC.Rnr]

I wish so many people wouldn't question my knowledge of physiology...

Anyway, biking to sprint isn't asking for failure, and I do lift -- probably as much or more than you.

I'm fully aware that a four hour spinning session will be extremely detrimental to my top speed. But interval training at a low cadence with high velocity on a gentle incline, and for relatively short duration, is as good as anything (short of full out sprinting) for activating the fast twitch muscle fibers. Look at the study (studies?) done on it; low cadence pedaling requires a high force output to propel the body and bike, which slow twitch muscle just isn't capable of producing. Why do you think triathletes and endurance cyclists spin instead of grinding it out in top gear?

[Sprints07]

If you have time to lift, run, and do all the other crap needed to be done in order to be a good sprinter, and then you should have no time to mess with a cycle.

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I find the amount of elitist bull**** on this thread pretty amusing.

You're all so full of yourselves and your own bull**** it's amazing. Do you honestly believe that you're following what you're spewing about intense training regimens and not having time for anything else?

I find it highly suspect that with PRs of 11.1 and 23.0 that you're following the world's most rigorous program.

To davan...I ask you, why do you continually feel the need to refer to what the elites do? Am I a 43.5 400 runner? I think not. For running 50.0, cycling is more than fine. I don't live, eat, breathe, sleep, smoke, and fondle track. I have a life, and enjoy it quite well. You also failed to address my claim that I lift as much, or more, than you do. Why not live what you're so avidly proclaiming to be gospel?

I was asking for thoughts and what anyone else might do, not another one of these "Well Jeremy Wariner does this, and I want to blow him because of it" threads -- and you know that if this argument continues it will eventually reach that.

Points:
No one on this thread is elite, so don't give me bull**** about what they do. When someone here reaches an elite level, then say what you want.

No one on this thread is so consumed with sprinting that they honestly have time for sprint training and nothing else. No one here is talented enough to get to the point where this even becomes an issue.