Brian Gagnon runs 48 400

[NErunner]

Gagnon just ran a 48 at MVC relays. Is there anything this kid cant do? He really is the natural. Brian Ford was there to. He reminds me of gagnon except gagnon is better in every single event and dosnt look like a ****ing goofball.

[Wizardx]

was it just a split in a relay? Because if so, it's just a split.

[NErunner]

It was a relay but he still made that 400 his bitch

[Dalau]

He reminds me of gagnon except gagnon is better in every single event and dosnt look like a ****ing goof ball. 10 characters

edit: damn, I posted too late.

[gothedistance11]

when did i say i was better than gagnon...someone just look that one up for me....hes one of the most talented runners in the country and could probably win the state title in the 4, 8 or mile....i would never compare myself to that. NErunner say what u just said to me in person and dont hide behind your computer screen....kids have major balls when they dont have to look someone in the eye.

[NErunner]

Anyone else have an opinion?

[stizz]

Great split for Gagnon. I don't really see why anyone is too surprised though. 48.x wheels are pretty common for 1:52 indoor guys who rely on footspeed over sheer endurance.

[polyxc]

Great split for Gagnon. I don't really see why anyone is too surprised though. 48.x wheels are pretty common for 1:52 indoor guys who rely on footspeed over sheer endurance.
I wouldn't say that Gagnon relies on foot speed over endurance. His endurance is excellent. 4:20.07 mile in his only serious attempt, 13:00 at Manhattan, second fastest time in EMass cross country.

His endurance is beyond question. Not to say he doesn't have foot speed. It would be interesting to watch Gagnon in a 400 out of the blocks.

[Wizardx]

-I'm not surprised by that split. He's a beast. I'd say he could go 49 low out of the blocks.

-He does have very good endurance, but I would agree with stizz over poly in that his footspeed is his strong point. 13:00 at Vannie and 4:20 (despite the fact that he only "tried" once) are decent, but they cannot be compared to his 1:52 and this recent 48 split. He's an overall great runner with amazing range, but, similar to Gras, his talent is based on his quick turnover.

[Emil's Ghost]

I wouldn't say that Gagnon relies on foot speed over endurance. His endurance is excellent. 4:20.07 mile in his only serious attempt, 13:00 at Manhattan, second fastest time in EMass cross country.

His endurance is beyond question. Not to say he doesn't have foot speed. It would be interesting to watch Gagnon in a 400 out of the blocks.

Gras: 49.x split / 1:51 / 2:26 / 4:05 / 15:16
Gagnon: 48.x split / 1:52 / 2:30 / 4:20 / 15:53

Gras ran better at the longer distances (including the 800) because he had better endurance than Gagnon. In my opinion, Gagnon's progress in anything longer than 400 is going to depend on how much he improves his endurance.

[Sit 'N Kick]

NErunner say what u just said to me in person and dont hide behind your computer screen....kids have major balls when they dont have to look someone in the eye.

not too many people would be scared to look u in the eye, im sure he would say that too ur face and you wouldnt do nething about it

[Wizardx]

Note: Gras' 800 PR is 1:50.XX.

[polyxc]

Gras ran better at the longer distances (including the 800) because he had better endurance than Gagnon. In my opinion, Gagnon's progress in anything longer than 400 is going to depend on how much he improves his endurance.
Gras's range is one of the best ever. He is hardly representative.

Gagnon has one of the better ranges for an 800 guy.

To attribute his 48 split to foot speed sounds like you are saying that he succeeds on talent and not all the hard work he has put.

[Emil's Ghost]

Gras's range is one of the best ever. He is hardly representative.

Gagnon has one of the better ranges for an 800 guy.

To attribute his 48 split to foot speed sounds like you are saying that he succeeds on talent and not all the hard work he has put.

I didn't make that attribution. I have the utmost respect for Gagnon, and I think his success at the 400/800 is due to his hard work to improve his talent. I don't know, but I suspect that his hard work is more focused on speed than on endurance. Hence, I believe that if he wants to be a sub 4:10 miler (like Gras), he is capable, but he has to improve his endurance.

Regardless, I root for him to suceed at whatever distance he chooses to focus on.

By the way, while Gras might not be representative in terms of his times, it's not hard to find examples of runners who run their 1M's about 5-6s per lap slower than their 800's. If Gagnon did that, he would run a 4:04-4:08 mile.

[Lint]

hey ill give it to him that hes a wicked fast dude, but in all honesty, splits mean nothing. a 51 second open 400 runner could run a 48 split in the relay, you just have to come out really fast.

[Mrr82]

hey ill give it to him that hes a wicked fast dude, but in all honesty, splits mean nothing. a 51 second open 400 runner could run a 48 split in the relay, you just have to come out really fast.

Come out really fast?? Coming out fast has nothing to do with dropping 3 seconds. a 51 second open runner cannot split a 48 unless the person takign the splits does it wrong. It just won't happen. Just like MJ would never split a 40.

[Mrr82]

To attribute his 48 split to foot speed sounds like you are saying that he succeeds on talent and not all the hard work he has put.

Since when does 48 second foot speed not come with hard work?

[gothedistance11]

not too many people would be scared to look u in the eye, im sure he would say that too ur face and you wouldnt do nething about it

even if he does say it to my face it was uncalled for on here, it has no relevance to the topid of the thread, and only an as*hole would pull something like that. If you have crap with someone up front about it, don't hide on dyestat....and as for me doing anything about it...im smart enough not to get into a fight a month before graduation.


EDIT: As for gagnon, I think he could hit 48 high out of the blocks if he did it in the end of the season. I saw him immediatly after the race and he didn't even look that fatigued. As long as their is someone ahead of him, he always has another level he can go to.

[NErunner]

Ford, stop posting in this thread. Nobody wants to hear your opinion. Go take your silly ass comments somwhere else.

[Lint]

Example: My fastest open 400 time was 51.4, but then I split 49.3. I wasn't taking credit away from him or anything. He is an excellent runner. Splits are over rated. Now I'd like to see if he could to it in the open 400 too.

[polyxc]

...As for gagnon, I think he could hit 48 high out of the blocks if he did it in the end of the season. ...
I agree with you.

I think Gagnon could even make the Dyestat Elite list (48.3) in the 400 if was concentrating on the event. But since he is better in the 800, he will probably only run the 400 for fun.

[polyxc]

...I don't know, but I suspect that his hard work is more focused on speed than on endurance. Hence, I believe that if he wants to be a sub 4:10 miler (like Gras), he is capable, but he has to improve his endurance.
I think Gagnon has focused a lot of work on his endurance, as evident in his results. There aren't many 1:52.x half milers in the country who could beat him at 5K cross country.

[gothedistance11]

do u think itd be harder for him to run a 48 low out of the blocks or go 1:50.XX in the 800?

[BrooklineMiler]

Gagnon is a Beast and please don't hate. There is no reason to say anything negative about him running a 48.


-New Line-

[400master]

Example: My fastest open 400 time was 51.4, but then I split 49.3. I wasn't taking credit away from him or anything. He is an excellent runner. Splits are over rated. Now I'd like to see if he could to it in the open 400 too.
.5 is all you should gain from a relay split some runn harder when theres a little help ie relay, but those with heart dont get that much of a bounce

[1000FC]

.5 is all you should gain from a relay split some runn harder when theres a little help ie relay, but those with heart dont get that much of a bounce

listen up boys and girls he knows his sh_it he's the 400 master

[gesser]

.5 is all you should gain from a relay split some runn harder when theres a little help ie relay, but those with heart dont get that much of a bounce

Tell that to all the Darold Williamson supporters. According to them, the guy's like a 42 second guy, yet he can't crack 45.

[Lint]

Same with Tim Keefe. The kid splits 47s at our dual meets, yet he hasn't broken 54 in the open 400.

[Wizardx]

Gagnon is a Beast and please don't hate. There is no reason to say anything negative about him running a 48.


-New Line-

Nobody is hating on Gagnon. Nor is anybody saying anything negative about his 48, merely praising.

-Waiting at the finish Line-


.5 is all you should gain from a relay split some runn harder when theres a little help ie relay, but those with heart dont get that much of a bounce

Relay conversions are not due to how hard the person ran; they are due to the fact that they are already on the go when their split begins AND the abilities of the timer. As a result, there can be no set conversion (I don't know if .5 may be some type of average) since it could only compensate (maybe) for the runner already being on the go but NOT for the experience of the eye and finger speed of the timer.

[400master]

listen up boys and girls he knows his sh_it he's the 400 master
400 master means Im over 40 and run the 400, best time when still young was only 49.4

[Treat_1108]

Maybe he led off, then it would be legit

[msweenz]

Maybe he led off, then it would be legit

he anchored

[Sit 'N Kick]

and as for me doing anything about it...im smart enough not to get into a fight a month before graduation.


ur smart enough not to fight cuz u would lose

[400master]

Im a black belt in run fool mess with me and ill turn and run like a fool, run it on the track a place of peace lets not battle on the boards

[elcaballo]

Lord of the necro

[polyxc]

How do you revive these threads that are so old? I thought they dissapeared if they weren't used in 6 months?

[elcaballo]

How do you revive these threads that are so old? I thought they dissapeared if they weren't used in 6 months?
Wizard knew how, then they banned him. But he passed the knowledge onto me first

[WHRunner06]

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[Wizard]

Wizard knew how, then they banned him. But he passed the knowledge onto me first

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