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Old 10-31-2009, 12:57 PM
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The article said he attended high school in this country. If that's true then most likely an adult, probably a parent brought him here. So even though he is here illegally I don't think he should be treated like a felon. Although I do agree he's had ample opportunity to change his immigration status so I don't have much sympathy for him.
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Old 11-02-2009, 09:55 PM
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But based on what happened after a mere traffic violation, what do you think would have happened if sometime in the last 15 years he had tried to change his immigration status?

He would have been deported.

If we would put in some plan (not blanket amnesty) to allow people like him to earn the right (boy that phrase sounds funny to me) to stay here without being deported than I would have no sympathy for anyone given an option. We have no immigration policy now so until we have one, my position is guys like him are no threat to our health and security.
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Old 11-16-2009, 06:50 PM
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But based on what happened after a mere traffic violation, what do you think would have happened if sometime in the last 15 years he had tried to change his immigration status?

He would have been deported.

If we would put in some plan (not blanket amnesty) to allow people like him to earn the right (boy that phrase sounds funny to me) to stay here without being deported than I would have no sympathy for anyone given an option. We have no immigration policy now so until we have one, my position is guys like him are no threat to our health and security.
Sorry Paul, But I definitely disagree with your opinion on this issue. You seemingly take what appears to be a "righteous" approach, but fail to realize that these people are breaking the law. It doesn't matter if their not dangerouse felons, the law says you can't be here, they come anyways. You don't get to take the law into your own hands because you feel "more right" than our legislators who made these laws. If you don't like a law, you can do your best you have it changed, You Cannont Decide Your Above The Law And Do As You Please.
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Old 11-16-2009, 11:59 PM
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But I can spell and use correct punctuation. Perhaps you're an illegal alien (or someone who flunked English as your native language)
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Old 11-17-2009, 01:51 AM
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But I can spell and use correct punctuation. Perhaps you're an illegal alien (or someone who flunked English as your native language)
Thats your comeback? How pathetic! When people are just wrong, all they can do to make themselves feel good is to level some lame attack on them. Maybe we should just do away with police and laws so people like you can do whatever they want. Why don't you go and live in Mexico and let me know how that works out for you. Right or wrong, we live by the law, sorry you don't seem to get that.
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Old 11-19-2009, 02:13 AM
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But I can spell and use correct punctuation. Perhaps you're an illegal alien (or someone who flunked English as your native language)
Yeah you are just ridiculous, Just because your losing an argument doesnt mean you need to attack someone. The man broke the law and like anybody else who breaks the law would be punished. So should he.

Last edited by mikeyrunner1010 : 11-19-2009 at 10:20 PM. Reason: haha oops! awesome when you enter a debate and you look like an idiot by spelling something simple wrong haha
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Old 11-19-2009, 01:48 PM
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Yeah you are just rediculous, Just because your losing an argument doesnt mean you need to attack someone. The man broke the law and like anybody else who breaks the law would be punished. So should he.
lol, rediculous
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Old 11-19-2009, 09:08 PM
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But based on what happened after a mere traffic violation, what do you think would have happened if sometime in the last 15 years he had tried to change his immigration status?

He would have been deported.

If we would put in some plan (not blanket amnesty) to allow people like him to earn the right (boy that phrase sounds funny to me) to stay here without being deported than I would have no sympathy for anyone given an option. We have no immigration policy now so until we have one, my position is guys like him are no threat to our health and security.
Why does "earn the right" sound so funny? That's exactly what they should be doing by going through the legalization process. They did have an option. And the children of illegals already get a free pass if they're born here.

What do you mean we have no immigration policy? The hell we don't. But as usual, the government was asleep and only enforced it half-assed or looked the other way, mostly because of NAFTA. That caused a huge drop in wages and jobs lost to cheap foreign labor. Why do you think they came into this country any way possible, legal or illegal? Because the jobs were here. So people took advantage and circumvented the process. Manufacturing and industrial jobs that Americans used to raise families on are either gone or employ foreign labor. And as the trade agreements are so one-sided because foreign countries don't even consume what is made, and illegals will send their money back to their country and not invest it in US goods, that trade deficit will never, ever be made up.

I tell you, if taxpayers around the country found out an illegal was being paid a stipend by their school district, you would see all hell break loose, especially when certified teachers are losing jobs.

What you fail to see is while this little caper seems insignificant and not a threat, it's representative of what goes on in a larger scale that affects taxpaying, legal citizens.....and also those who are non-citizens but are legally in the country.

Your friend there is a threat, like it or not.
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